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Online Casinos & the Paypal Buyer Protection
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The question that arises here is, with whom one gets Trouble in this case. With Paypal or with the online casino in question? If the online casinos were affected, they would have to collect the money in Germany or sue. According to current German law, however, online casinos operate in a gray area, which means that they should hardly have a chance in German courts.
Since I myself do not use Paypal, I do not know about the buyer protection, which you could possibly use to get your money back.
Have any of you already had practical experience with this issue? I would be very interested ...
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To what extent these titles are then enforced or enforced I do not know, however.
I do not believe that PayPal on the one hand cooperates with casinos and on the other hand his Fordeungen, if the debit note bursts, in the Sande verlaufen lets.
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Scenarios in which you could possibly claim buyer protection would be:
Simply gamble money, hope for a win and do not pay in case of loss should not work or no longer work. Of course, this is now bitter for the player but the shit he could also have built in a casino or in a gambling house and there is also no money back ...
As Redriver says, if you win then you have problems. There is supposedly also a Blacklist of players, so the chance is high that you also get in other casinos, which can access this list, trouble.
It is about 20.000€, which were gambled away in only two sessions. It just got totally out of hand. The player in question has the money in his bank account, but it is causing him some problems and he will probably have to change his diet a bit more to ham noodles in the near future.
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On the other hand there were 2 cases where PayPal waived 20k and 8k. See here: PayPal waives money for online casino games
I also had trouble with PayPal a little over 10 years ago and I didn't have the money in my account. The amounts were not so high, but of course you have the full collection program and I could pay myself silly
If that would happen to me again today, I would pay PayPal a shit. Gambling on direct debit does not work at all, and certainly not such sums if PayPal wants it the hard way, then they should get it that way. I myself but now generally stay away from PayPal, becauseils simply capitalism last act, rather already the epilogue.
I can guess which player it is about...
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so I can tell you from a reliable source what your sunmaker employee says DOES NOT HAPPEN,
there are tons of people who have booked their money back with PayPal and no lawsuit has ever been filed against them.
The only thing that happens :
Paypal reminds and sends you a Debt collection on the neck the try then by Richterlichen order the money to sue in
from Paypal but has NEVER been filed suit ... yet NEVER there are only cases where they go to court but do not show a statement of claim
and thus this again Fallen let.
Furthermore, I do not think that for Paypal a damage ensteht andzwar because Paypal with Rücklastschriften simply the amount again back book does and thus does not remain sitting on the costs. you see for example also if you have paid in via PAypal and then again via Paypal auszahlst then pays the casino always about Rückzahlung your Paypal Einzahlung aus (which is then about 2-3 weeks blocked... for whatever reason) and the rest you get as a credit.
I represent the same view as many... GLÜCKSSPIEL PER LASTSCHRIFT there simply must not be.you get at the casino also no credit at the entrance you can then gamble away.
So as I said that our laws are so spongy what concerns Online Casinos Paypal does not sue.There is also no other lawsuit from Paypal in other areas as far as I know.Paypal itself will simply earn so much on the individual transactions that they can safely do without the couple who let their money back and write this off as a cost.
There are I know how many forums on the Internet where there are many affected.
http://www.forum-gluecksspielsucht.de/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4rakh760k52lhh7k0d10u3aei2&topic=2484.15
That can read through you e.g. times
MfG
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He said that it today should no longer be possible. The forum post is already 2 years old and the experience of TomWegas is also 10 years ago. Does anyone know a current case where this has worked from 2016 / 2017? Or does anyone know if something has changed and claims are now enforceable?
The manager of Sunmaker will of course be biased on this issue, as Sunmaker also offers PayPal as a Deposit method. Of course, Paypal casinos will understandably not want this "trick" to make the rounds ...
I'm divided on the matter, by the way. On the one hand, I think it's cheating the casino, because theoretically you could have won. On the other hand, however, it is true that Online Casinos should not allow gambling on "credit" and should do without Paypal as a payment provider. Well, actually, it's Paypal's fault, since this payment Provider should generally refuse gambling providers as customers. That would be the best for everyone!
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