Andy_1980 wrote on 02/23/2020 at 5:35 pm: @gamble1
So 16 Euro/h and unskilled in addition?
You can only dream of such wages, you can't even get that with a degree.
I studied business administration and computer science at that time, but I didn't get a job after graduation.
I started working for an Indian in a restaurant at that time. Kitchen help and delivery. He paid 50 cents per hour, for skilled workers 1.20 euros per hour. Well, later I drove out for Pakistanis, there was 1 Euro/h plus some Tip I was allowed to keep.
Today, most of them require you to drive out in your own car.
Most of them pay between 2 and 3 euros per hour, if things go well.
The maximum I ever earned was about 5 Euro/h gross. But for that you had to work in the restaurant up to 16 hours without a break. But that was a long time ago.
It is more and more difficult to get a job at all. If it is really well paid, between 1 and 2 euros hourly wage. But without your own car, no chance. In the warehouse I also worked once, was also paid a maximum of 2 to 3 euros, for hard work.
Oh, yeah, what do you mean about gambling-addicted employees in a dishwasher? I know from experience that they don't get more than 1 to 2 euros per hour.
And the employees are not allowed to gamble there. Only 1 euro gamble, and the dismissal comes then immediately. It's the same as when someone works at the bar in a restaurant, and he secretly drinks alcohol all the time. And then emptied the tressor? For sure. Then the person will NEVER get a job again anywhere, not even 50 cents/hour, and he ends up in forensics for an indefinite period of time. There you earn between 30 and 50 cents per hour ... but outside you would certainly NEVER be employed again.
So honestly, I don't believe that you earn so much as an employee in the arcade for repairing machines to easily gamble away 3,000 euros and more in the evening and online.
Well, there are entertainers who are paid for playing and get the money back of course and the salary just extra. But this is not a job you can be proud of, being paid to animate others to gamble and get addicted.
And as I said, as a normal employee you are not allowed to gamble at all ...
you would immediately lose your job.
So it stands to reason that you'd get the money through other means than legal, legitimate work. And if you really have to work hard for your money, you would NEVER even think of gambling just 1 cent of it.
So, if it's really true, then keep it up, you'll see how long it goes well.
But to animate other people to play, something like that is just really not okay, because there seems to be many people here who want to get away from it.
I wish them all a lot of strength and success, and that they do not fall for you and Deposit where or so.
But I will also withdraw here again and log off, because it is not good and too easily leads to temptation then.
lg
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of course you are here just for fun and want to amuse people really nice of you to tell us cheerful stories, is a rest from the dreary game everyday where you only ...... ... . well you know.
want to tell you once a short story from my daily bread --> there are actually people who put their door knob at the apartment door under power --> unfortunately, really unfortunately we could not ask the person why he did it
Iseedeadpeople wrote on 24.02.2020 at 21:39
of course you are just having fun here and want to amuse people really nice of you to tell us cheerful stories, is a rest from the dreary game everyday where you only ...... ... . well you know.
want to tell you once a short story from my daily bread --> there are actually people who put their door knob at the apartment door under power --> unfortunately, really unfortunately we could not ask the person why he did it
The games that he drives here, he has previously driven in another forum, but I know his name he has used then no longer, but he has exactly the same Sche...ß as written today.
gagapapamama wrote on 25.02.2020 at 08:33 am: The games he is playing here, he has done before in another forum, but I don't know his name he used then, but he wrote exactly the same sche...ß as today.
tröööööt sooo much carnival everywhere
klaro, I knew before your first hint the other day, is also easy to see through, some just do not check it --> btw I still have some tips and funny stories, but if one should take trolls seriously here I say nothing more about it.
gaga, you could write again what is so good to eat with you (in the other thread), danki
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Why was "startpage" blocked? He has also written nothing bad or so here?
Only because he confirmed that there are such jobs and you have to work very hard for it.
Even at that time with the Indian very many people came, even sent by the employment office. Of course, he had also stated 8 Euro/h or so at the office. When they then learned that there is only 50 cents per hour, then many applicants jumped off. But there were still about 60 applicants, from which he could decide for the job. And these people were all willing to start and work for entry-level wages of 50 cents/hour. One colleague even drove his own car, but in return he got about 2 euros or 2.50 euros/hour. And others did the same.
And yes, it probably at that time already minimum wage, but that is fictitious and still get the fewest, even well-trained professionals with a fixed contract have only rarely minimum wage. As long as there is no collective wage agreement in the respective industry, it doesn't matter at all, does it? There is a free market economy. Either someone wants to work, or they don't. If not, then the boss almost always has 100 other applicants standing in front of the door who would like to work and are also satisfied with less money.
Yesterday, for example, I went shopping at the Tafel and got food for 3 euros, which will easily last me 1 to 2 weeks. And there even bosses of large companies buy, drive up with large car, load trunk completely full, etc.
And as I said, there are definitely many people, even today in 2020, who are happy if they have a job at all where they get 1 or 2 euros per hour. And if you're frugal, don't go gambling or something, then it's a lot of money and you can live on it.
If someone earns supposedly 500.000 Euro/month, but he is addicted to gambling, then he has finally 0,00 Euro in the month to live and also 0 Euro earned in the whole month in spite of work. I also know that many bosses, if they notice that someone is gambling, then they are entitled to either drastically reduce the salary or to terminate without notice. Even if the person is not otherwise delinquent. It's just like if you drink alcohol and your boss doesn't get it, you're fired without notice. And he does not have to pay a cent more.
So without wanting to offend you, but in DE no one goes to work for 0.5 €...
I myself work in human resources, the worst that can happen is a measure from the office for which there is 1 € / hour.
Also that you can terminate people because of an addiction without notice is the biggest garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!(We have laws here in DE)
so actually your complete contribution is for the ton, sometimes if one has no idea simply times.... You know
Love greetings
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Well, but any normal thinking boss would not hire a gambling addict, drug addict, alcoholic or anything else. It's pretty sure that soon money from the cash register is suddenly missing or it comes to other problems such as frequent non-attendance, frequent sick leave, etc..
And especially in the case of Gambling addiction, many people lose their jobs relatively quickly.
And just in the today's time, where it is so already for healthy people damn heavily to get at all where a job.
Every boss gets several hundred or even thousands of applications for only 1 advertised job. He can take a close look at every single one of them, check their CV etc. exactly. So no boss will choose an addict when he has thousands of other healthy applicants to choose from.
I once applied for a job that was supposed to pay 2 euros/h gross. I also thought that I would have the job for sure. But there were over 700 applicants for this position, and EVERYONE had to work unpaid for 2 weeks on a trial basis. Elsewhere, it was even required to work completely unpaid for 2 years, after which one would supposedly have earned around 100 euros/month there.
So, what some write here so,
like gamble1 for example that it would be so easy with job, one everywhere 17 euro/h at least gets, even unskilled .... everything complete nonsense.
Many here live apparently far from any Reaöität, and have long since completely lost any reference to money and reality in real life by the addiction.
So a nonsense I've never heard where.
But everyone should do just when he thinks.
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Andy_1980 wrote on 02/26/2020 at 4:38 pm: @cbz490
Well, but any normal thinking boss would not hire a gambling addict, drug addict, alcoholic or anything else. Is then but pretty sure that soon money from the cash suddenly missing or it comes to other problems such as frequent non-attendance, frequent sick leave, etc..
And especially in the case of Gambling addiction, many people lose their jobs relatively quickly.
And just in the today's time, where it is so already for healthy people damn heavily to get at all where a job.
Every boss gets several hundred or even thousands of applications for only 1 advertised job. He can take a close look at every single one of them, check their CV etc. exactly. So no boss will choose an addict when he has thousands of other healthy applicants to choose from.
I once applied for a job that was supposed to pay 2 euros/h gross. I also thought that I would have the job for sure. But there were over 700 applicants for this position, and EVERYONE had to work unpaid for 2 weeks on a trial basis. Elsewhere, it was even required to work completely unpaid for 2 years, after which one would supposedly have earned around 100 euros/month there.
So, what some write here so,
like gamble1 for example that it would be so easy with job, one everywhere 17 euro/h at least gets, even unskilled .... everything complete nonsense.
Many here live apparently far from any Reaöität, and have long since completely lost any reference to money and reality in real life by the addiction.
So a nonsense I've never heard where.
But everyone should do just when he thinks.
So as I said, you have completely different views here and we are talking completely past each other.
However, the times when you didn't get a job are long gone.
It is rather the other way around.
Many companies are looking for workers and pay the minimum wage, but no one comes forward.
What you tell I just do not believe. For 1-2 euros an hour 100 applicants should stand there? That is not possible.
Look nevertheless times into the job exchange of the employment agency or with Ebay_kleinanzeigen! There many offer 10 - 12 euro per hour and find nevertheless no workers.
Well, it is a pity to discuss the time here.
We can make times ne anonymous survey in the forum, who earns how much per hour, there you will be amazed .
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"Since many offer 10 to 12 euros an hour"
Anyone can bid a lot, is just like with the casinos, there is also advertised with high wins, bonus, etc. The reality looks then but quite different, and such wins with which is advertised are completely unrealistic, or if they are never paid out.
And it looks exactly the same with these job offers, E-Bay announcements also from. Something is promised there, which does not correspond to reality. If they would give the real salary, no one would answer. Now they even have to specify such a high wage, because of this minimum wage law.
But if someone reports on it, then it is of course always first 2 weeks or longer completely unpaid to work on trial, then own car is required, etc.. First of all, you always have to bring your own money, otherwise no chance. And if you get any money at all, that is extremely questionable. I know enough people who have fallen for such a thing, have worked 3 months or longer, but not seen a cent for it. They could not sue for anything either.
Nobody has anything to give away, neither casinos, nor any employers.
Just suppose a boss gets 500 applications for his job ad, and he lets EVERY applicant work unpaid for 14 days on a trial basis. So he's already set for 1,000 weeks of labor alone, without having to pay a single cent. That is approx. 18 years long nevertheless. That's how it works for most people, and especially now in the recession where people don't have any more money anyway, most stores, restaurants, companies etc. have to close down soon anyway, they hardly have any turnover anymore, because everyone has to save money. Self-employed, company bosses have to go to the food bank themselves in order to be able to afford food. How should they then be able to pay employees so well?
On such dream offers with 10 to 12 euro/h or more still, on it I do not fall only purely, because to 99 per cent that is not true anyway.
Then I find it better if one gets honestly immediately said that they can pay however only 1 euro or so. And if it is sure that you really get the euro then. That's why I always ask immediately when I apply for a job whether the salary is paid in cash, if possible immediately after the end of each shift, or at the latest after 1 week of work you get your money in cash. If that is not so, allegedly not possible, I let the fingers of it. I have also worked for several months without even getting a single cent for it.
But that's just the way it is today, unfortunately, almost everywhere.
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Andy_1980 wrote on 02/26/2020 at 19:06: @Gamer777
"Since many offer 10 to 12 euros an hour"
Anyone can bid a lot, is just like with the casinos, there is also advertised with high wins, bonus, etc. The reality looks but then quite different, and such wins with which is advertised are completely unrealistic, or if they are never paid out.
And it looks exactly the same with these job offers, E-Bay announcements also from. Something is promised there, which does not correspond to reality. If they would give the real salary, no one would answer. Now they even have to specify such a high wage, because of this minimum wage law.
But if someone reports on it, then it is of course always first 2 weeks or longer completely unpaid to work on trial, then own car is required, etc.. First of all, you always have to bring your own money, otherwise no chance. And if you get any money at all, that is extremely questionable. I know enough people who have fallen for such a thing, have worked 3 months or longer, but not seen a cent for it. They could not sue for anything either.
Nobody has anything to give away, neither casinos, nor any employers.
Just suppose a boss gets 500 applications for his job ad, and he lets EVERY applicant work unpaid for 14 days on a trial basis. So he's already set for 1,000 weeks of labor alone, without having to pay a single cent. That is approx. 18 years long nevertheless. That's how it works for most people, and especially now in the recession where people don't have any more money anyway, most stores, restaurants, companies etc. have to close down soon anyway, they hardly have any turnover anymore, because everyone has to save money. Self-employed people, company bosses have to go to the food bank themselves in order to still be able to afford food. How should they then be able to pay employees so well?
On such dream offers with 10 to 12 euro/h or more still, on it I do not fall only purely, because to 99 per cent that is not true anyway.
Then I find it better if one gets honestly immediately said that they can pay however only 1 euro or so. And if it is sure that you really get the euro then. That's why I always ask immediately when I apply for a job whether the salary is paid in cash, if possible immediately after the end of each shift, or at the latest after 1 week of work you get your money in cash. If that is not so, allegedly not possible, I let the fingers of it. I have also worked for several months without even getting a single cent for it.
But that's just the way it is today, unfortunately, almost everywhere.
As I said, I have a company myself and no one earns less than 9.35 € / h as a temp with me.
It may be that you have made bad experiences, but I'm sure you have had a lot of bad luck and got to the wrong people.
In my area I personally know enough employers who pay for a temporary job 10 - 12 euros / hour, mostly from the field of helpers in metalworking, drivers for vans, meals on wheels, etc..
And who has ne training as a nurse or nurse who finds work everywhere. We have companies here that already pay 2000 euros in Bonuses if you recruit a new employee in the care.
We can write here for a long time - you do not believe me and others!
Well no matter, work gibts in Germany fortunately still enough, the times are different as before, it goes back at the moment something with the economy, but nen Aushilsjob for minimum wage you can still find quickly, there are enough offers.
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of course you are here just for fun and want to amuse people really nice of you to tell us cheerful stories, is a rest from the dreary game everyday where you only ...... ... . well you know.
want to tell you once a short story from my daily bread --> there are actually people who put their door knob at the apartment door under power --> unfortunately, really unfortunately we could not ask the person why he did it
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The games that he drives here, he has previously driven in another forum, but I know his name he has used then no longer, but he has exactly the same Sche...ß as written today.
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tröööööt sooo much carnival everywhere
klaro, I knew before your first hint the other day, is also easy to see through, some just do not check it --> btw I still have some tips and funny stories, but if one should take trolls seriously here I say nothing more about it.
gaga, you could write again what is so good to eat with you (in the other thread), danki
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Only because he confirmed that there are such jobs and you have to work very hard for it.
Even at that time with the Indian very many people came, even sent by the employment office. Of course, he had also stated 8 Euro/h or so at the office. When they then learned that there is only 50 cents per hour, then many applicants jumped off. But there were still about 60 applicants, from which he could decide for the job. And these people were all willing to start and work for entry-level wages of 50 cents/hour. One colleague even drove his own car, but in return he got about 2 euros or 2.50 euros/hour. And others did the same.
And yes, it probably at that time already minimum wage, but that is fictitious and still get the fewest, even well-trained professionals with a fixed contract have only rarely minimum wage. As long as there is no collective wage agreement in the respective industry, it doesn't matter at all, does it? There is a free market economy. Either someone wants to work, or they don't. If not, then the boss almost always has 100 other applicants standing in front of the door who would like to work and are also satisfied with less money.
Yesterday, for example, I went shopping at the Tafel and got food for 3 euros, which will easily last me 1 to 2 weeks. And there even bosses of large companies buy, drive up with large car, load trunk completely full, etc.
And as I said, there are definitely many people, even today in 2020, who are happy if they have a job at all where they get 1 or 2 euros per hour. And if you're frugal, don't go gambling or something, then it's a lot of money and you can live on it.
If someone earns supposedly 500.000 Euro/month, but he is addicted to gambling, then he has finally 0,00 Euro in the month to live and also 0 Euro earned in the whole month in spite of work. I also know that many bosses, if they notice that someone is gambling, then they are entitled to either drastically reduce the salary or to terminate without notice. Even if the person is not otherwise delinquent. It's just like if you drink alcohol and your boss doesn't get it, you're fired without notice. And he does not have to pay a cent more.
One should always be aware of this.
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The user "startpage" was banned because it was an account that was already banned in the past.
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I myself work in human resources, the worst that can happen is a measure from the office for which there is 1 € / hour.
Also that you can terminate people because of an addiction without notice is the biggest garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!(We have laws here in DE)
so actually your complete contribution is for the ton, sometimes if one has no idea simply times.... You know
Love greetings
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Well, but any normal thinking boss would not hire a gambling addict, drug addict, alcoholic or anything else. It's pretty sure that soon money from the cash register is suddenly missing or it comes to other problems such as frequent non-attendance, frequent sick leave, etc..
And especially in the case of Gambling addiction, many people lose their jobs relatively quickly.
And just in the today's time, where it is so already for healthy people damn heavily to get at all where a job.
Every boss gets several hundred or even thousands of applications for only 1 advertised job. He can take a close look at every single one of them, check their CV etc. exactly. So no boss will choose an addict when he has thousands of other healthy applicants to choose from.
I once applied for a job that was supposed to pay 2 euros/h gross. I also thought that I would have the job for sure. But there were over 700 applicants for this position, and EVERYONE had to work unpaid for 2 weeks on a trial basis. Elsewhere, it was even required to work completely unpaid for 2 years, after which one would supposedly have earned around 100 euros/month there.
So, what some write here so,
like gamble1 for example that it would be so easy with job, one everywhere 17 euro/h at least gets, even unskilled .... everything complete nonsense.
Many here live apparently far from any Reaöität, and have long since completely lost any reference to money and reality in real life by the addiction.
So a nonsense I've never heard where.
But everyone should do just when he thinks.
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So as I said, you have completely different views here and we are talking completely past each other.
However, the times when you didn't get a job are long gone.
It is rather the other way around.
Many companies are looking for workers and pay the minimum wage, but no one comes forward.
What you tell I just do not believe. For 1-2 euros an hour 100 applicants should stand there? That is not possible.
Look nevertheless times into the job exchange of the employment agency or with Ebay_kleinanzeigen! There many offer 10 - 12 euro per hour and find nevertheless no workers.
Well, it is a pity to discuss the time here.
We can make times ne anonymous survey in the forum, who earns how much per hour, there you will be amazed .
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"Since many offer 10 to 12 euros an hour"
Anyone can bid a lot, is just like with the casinos, there is also advertised with high wins, bonus, etc. The reality looks then but quite different, and such wins with which is advertised are completely unrealistic, or if they are never paid out.
And it looks exactly the same with these job offers, E-Bay announcements also from. Something is promised there, which does not correspond to reality. If they would give the real salary, no one would answer. Now they even have to specify such a high wage, because of this minimum wage law.
But if someone reports on it, then it is of course always first 2 weeks or longer completely unpaid to work on trial, then own car is required, etc.. First of all, you always have to bring your own money, otherwise no chance. And if you get any money at all, that is extremely questionable. I know enough people who have fallen for such a thing, have worked 3 months or longer, but not seen a cent for it. They could not sue for anything either.
Nobody has anything to give away, neither casinos, nor any employers.
Just suppose a boss gets 500 applications for his job ad, and he lets EVERY applicant work unpaid for 14 days on a trial basis. So he's already set for 1,000 weeks of labor alone, without having to pay a single cent. That is approx. 18 years long nevertheless. That's how it works for most people, and especially now in the recession where people don't have any more money anyway, most stores, restaurants, companies etc. have to close down soon anyway, they hardly have any turnover anymore, because everyone has to save money. Self-employed, company bosses have to go to the food bank themselves in order to be able to afford food. How should they then be able to pay employees so well?
On such dream offers with 10 to 12 euro/h or more still, on it I do not fall only purely, because to 99 per cent that is not true anyway.
Then I find it better if one gets honestly immediately said that they can pay however only 1 euro or so. And if it is sure that you really get the euro then. That's why I always ask immediately when I apply for a job whether the salary is paid in cash, if possible immediately after the end of each shift, or at the latest after 1 week of work you get your money in cash. If that is not so, allegedly not possible, I let the fingers of it. I have also worked for several months without even getting a single cent for it.
But that's just the way it is today, unfortunately, almost everywhere.
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As I said, I have a company myself and no one earns less than 9.35 € / h as a temp with me.
It may be that you have made bad experiences, but I'm sure you have had a lot of bad luck and got to the wrong people.
In my area I personally know enough employers who pay for a temporary job 10 - 12 euros / hour, mostly from the field of helpers in metalworking, drivers for vans, meals on wheels, etc..
And who has ne training as a nurse or nurse who finds work everywhere. We have companies here that already pay 2000 euros in Bonuses if you recruit a new employee in the care.
We can write here for a long time - you do not believe me and others!
Well no matter, work gibts in Germany fortunately still enough, the times are different as before, it goes back at the moment something with the economy, but nen Aushilsjob for minimum wage you can still find quickly, there are enough offers.
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