I just don't know what to do in my life anymore, I'm unemployed, I've been gambling for more than 8 years, every single Euro goes to gambling.
I no longer think about food when shopping. I tried to do a therapy which I broke off after a few days (don't ask me why).
I would like to accept help but it is extremely difficult for me to keep appointments. In the meantime I don't give a shit about anything.
More often suicidal thoughts (not serious) but they are there. Also I have problems to open up to others in everything I do I am always nervous (at appointments etc etc).
Also suffering from severe depression for a few years now don't know what to do .
In order to get an "8 year Gambling addiction status" you have to have accumulated more than 300 Euros in Debt
I think there's also an official list for which amounts you have earned which title.
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Slot_Star wrote on 25.10.2019 at 23:08: I just do not know more further in my life am unemployed, for more than 8 years playing every single euro goes only for gambling drauf.
I don't even think about groceries when I go shopping. I tried to do a therapy which I broke off after a few days (don't ask me why).
I would like to accept help but it is extremely difficult for me to keep appointments. In the meantime I don't give a shit about anything.
More often suicidal thoughts (not serious) but they are there. Also I have problems to open up to others in everything I do I am always nervous (at appointments etc etc).
Also suffering from severe depression for a few years now don't know what to do .
so i think your biggest problem
is your psyche because your depressions
and the lack of self-confidence are
certainly difficult to handle in everyday life.
you should consider a talk therapy
consider (behavioral therapy).
these are individual sessions (so only you and the
the therapist) where you can talk about your problems or whatever else is on your mind.
i also did one for other reasons but talking about your problems alone with an
to talk about your problems with an independent person can be very helpful. of course you have to find someone you can trust...it took me 5 therapists until i found the right one but you can tell already in the first session that i have found the right therapist
you can tell in the first session if it works or not
with such a therapist you can of course talk ūabout your gambling problem, although that does not
doesn't seem to be that dramatic for you. the therapists can't do magic either, but it helped me.
it will certainly cost you some personal effort in the beginning, but that will pass in no time.
saschamk wrote on 26/10/2019 00:14: To be allowed to give himself a "8 years of Gambling addiction status" but must have accumulated a lot more than 300 euros of Debt
Believe there's also an official list for from which amounts one has earned which title.
now but👎What are you for one? Who are you, the standard of all things or why do you allow yourself to prescribe the definition to fulfill an addictive disorder? The emphasis here is on disease!!! As if a certain amount X of debts had to be accumulated before the disease of gambling addiction is diagnosed. Regardless of the fact that an addict (usually for years) has built up a framework of lies to disguise what he is doing from his environment. In the course of his gambling addiction (or addiction in general) - he is basically quickly aware of his problem - but as is the case with addictions, his addiction pressure will do everything to make him suppress this so that the reward center in the brain is satisfied. Accordingly, one should be able to imagine the behavioral change of an addict logically and how it relates to the truth content in detail regarding his statements!
Even if I can imagine this personally really only with difficulty that one destroys compulsively his existence, quality of life etc. - acts against all reason and cannot stop with it, money only for the hope of a possible next win, somewhere reinzuverpulvern!
I associate addiction in the first place with a dependence on tangible things that you first hold in your hand, in order to subsequently harm yourself with it, come hell or high water. Like tablets, alcohol, physical dependence causing BTM etc.. - So a certain poison which forces you to supply yourself because of the physical withdrawal symptoms. Because only through something like that could I possibly have imagined harming myself and those around me like that.
But the fact is that you get older and wiser. Provided that one was blessed something common sense, empathy and ego-free intelligence - one gets in the own periphery with the years so some with. Someone knows someone who knows someone, etc. who is addicted to an addiction such as gambling addiction and thus not only harms himself, but quite whole existences without fault with the ruin drives or has driven. I reject it from grundauf like each average RTL viewer and Bildleser, for lack of knowledge, interest, horizon or what I know what. Oberfflächlich, Arogant pre-judging statements about something to make, without me at least something more intensive to have dealt with the matter. Maybe it is because that one is aware and again the other, it will probably never be aware ONLY BECAUSE ONE CANNOT IMAGINE SOMETHING - IT CANNOT BE SO!
So you should put your ego a little back and not put every single word on the gold scale what the boy writes there, because it will probably not have been easy for him.
What he says in general about his condition fits. The whole thing is not so from now on, but a process with concatenation of many other factors that include the mental, social and lifestyle environment.
IF HE WOULD PRESENT EVERY FACT CORRECTLY DEFINED AND IF HE WOULD HAVE MANAGED TO GET RID OF THE LEARNED EMBELLISHMENT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE YEARS OF LYING FOR PROTECTION FROM CONSEQUENCES, THE AUTOMATED UNCONSCIOUS PERMANENT LIE - THEN HE WOULD BE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING BUT SO TO SPEAK "DRY"!
It is certainly not nice to be a prisoner of oneself and despite being aware of it - not to be able to fight against this compulsion! That is I think a whole house number more, when it comes to a pure psychological dependence - there f**ks you your own brain and that with the part over which you have zero control - to get out of it is ......
I JUST SAY AS LONG AS YOU NOTICE IT IS NOT TOO LATE! THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T REALIZE THAT HE HAS A PROBLEM CAN'T BE HELPED EITHER! I can not formulate more aptly:
"Einstein said: the definition of insanity is to always do the same thing and expect a different result!"
therefore do something, get help u if it is only a small step, it is a step
Dagmarlena wrote at 03:03, 26 Oct 2019
now but👎what kind of person are you? Who are you, the standard of all things or why do you allow yourself to prescribe the definition to fulfill an addictive disorder? The emphasis here is on disease!!! As if a certain amount X of debts had to be accumulated before the disease of Gambling addiction is diagnosed. Regardless of the fact that an addict (usually for years) has built up a framework of lies to disguise what he is doing from his environment. In the course of his gambling addiction (or addiction in general) - he is basically quickly aware of his problem - but as is the case with addictions, his addiction pressure will do everything to make him suppress this so that the reward center in the brain is satisfied. Accordingly, one should be able to imagine the behavioral change of an addict logically and how it relates to the truth content in detail regarding his statements!
Even if I can imagine this personally really only with difficulty that one destroys compulsively his existence, quality of life etc. - acts against all reason and cannot stop with it, money only for the hope of a possible next win, somewhere reinzuverpulvern!
I associate addiction in the first place with a dependence on tangible things that you first hold in your hand, in order to subsequently harm yourself with it, come hell or high water. Like tablets, alcohol, physical dependence causing BTM etc.. - So a certain poison which forces you to supply yourself because of the physical withdrawal symptoms. Because only through something like that could I possibly have imagined harming myself and those around me like that.
But the fact is that you get older and wiser. Provided that one was blessed something common sense, empathy and ego-free intelligence - one gets in the own periphery with the years so some with. Someone knows someone who knows someone, etc. who is addicted to an addiction such as gambling addiction and thus not only harms himself, but quite whole existences without fault with the ruin drives or has driven. I reject it from grundauf like each average RTL viewer and Bildleser, for lack of knowledge, interest, horizon or what I know what. Oberfflächlich, Arogant pre-judging statements about something to make, without me at least something more intensive to have dealt with the matter. Maybe it is because that one is aware and again the other, it will probably never be aware ONLY BECAUSE ONE CANNOT IMAGINE SOMETHING - IT CANNOT BE SO!
So you should put your ego a little back and not put every single word on the gold scale what the boy writes there, because it will probably not have been easy for him.
What he says in general about his condition fits. The whole thing is not so from now on, but a process with concatenation of many other factors that include the mental, social and lifestyle environment.
IF HE WOULD PRESENT EVERY FACT CORRECTLY DEFINED AND IF HE WOULD HAVE MANAGED TO GET RID OF THE LEARNED EMBELLISHMENT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE YEARS OF LYING FOR PROTECTION FROM CONSEQUENCES, THE AUTOMATED UNCONSCIOUS PERMANENT LIE - THEN HE WOULD BE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING BUT SO TO SPEAK "DRY"!
It is certainly not nice to be a prisoner of oneself and despite being aware of it - not to be able to fight against this compulsion! That is I think a whole house number more, when it comes to a pure psychological dependence - there f**ks you your own brain and that with the part over which you have zero control - to get out of it is ......
I JUST SAY AS LONG AS YOU NOTICE IT IS NOT TOO LATE! THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T REALIZE THAT HE HAS A PROBLEM CAN'T BE HELPED EITHER! I can not formulate more aptly:
"Einstein said: the definition of insanity is to always do the same thing and expect a different result!"
therefore do something, get help u if it is only a small step, it is a step
Someone has to define this and since I have come to the conclusion after my complex calculations, that with a term of 8 years, the exact amount of Debt must be 301 € to be called a problem case, I have the young man friendly pointed out that he may not take this right, according to the current file situation, unfortunately. I'm sorry if the lady this indisputable fact does not fit into their colorful world view but that's just the way it is
saschamk wrote on 26/10/2019 at 07:28
Someone has to define that yes and since I have come after my complex calculations to the conclusion that with a term of 8 years, the exact amount of Debt must be 301 € to be called a problem case I have the young man friendly pointed out that he may not take out this right, according to the current file situation, unfortunately. I'm sorry if the lady this indisputable fact does not fit into their colorful world view but that's just the way it is.
What suits me or not, has no value at all. But it is obvious that you have not understood Gambling addiction as such by definition. You are confusing a negative consequence of the disease - as once again named by you here -> that of the amount of debt - with the disease itself!
And thus your complete principle is wrong!
Because the financial aspect is only one of the results of this addiction! That what from a certain debt height one, so to speak for the public, the addiction illness no more conceals lets!
At the latest if the house of cards collapses everything is obviously Aufgeflogen.
The financial drama is the result, which for affected and outsiders most concisely the gambling addiction emerges and thereby the connection falsely to the addiction goes along with the debts
If this were so, then the person would not be addicted to gambling and would not have a compulsive clinical picture until he has reached a certain sum that becomes a problem and threatens the cost of living. Which is absolute nonsense!
Most drunks and or junkies reveal their problem for all ersichtlicht. Through one of the results of their addiction - which would be, among other things, the physical decline
If your argument would be true, a drug addict would not be addicted as long as he is not visibly physically marked and socially ruined
But the fact is:
there are a lot of alcohol and opiate addicts, who suffer from this disease for decades, but are able to hide it from the outside world.
They are respected, renowned and although they act negligently, because these persons are not master of their senses. They still actively perform responsible tasks, for example, in their profession. For example, doctors such as surgeons who handle the life of a person but would never be allowed to do so if the circumstance of their addiction would be known!
Dagmarlena wrote at 03:03, 26 Oct 2019
now but👎what kind of person are you? Who are you, the standard of all things or why do you allow yourself to prescribe the definition to fulfill an addictive disorder? The emphasis here is on disease!!! As if a certain amount of Debt had to be accumulated before the disease of Gambling addiction is diagnosed. Regardless of the fact that an addict (usually for years) has built up a framework of lies to disguise what he is doing from his environment. In the course of his gambling addiction (or addiction in general) - he is basically quickly aware of his problem - but as is the case with addictions, his addiction pressure will do everything to make him suppress this so that the reward center in the brain is satisfied. Accordingly, one should be able to imagine the behavioral change of an addict logically and how it relates to the truth content in detail regarding his statements!
Even if I can imagine this personally really only with difficulty that one destroys compulsively his existence, quality of life etc. - acts against all reason and cannot stop with it, money only for the hope of a possible next win, somewhere reinzuverpulvern!
I associate addiction in the first place with a dependence on tangible things that you first hold in your hand, in order to subsequently harm yourself with it, come hell or high water. Like tablets, alcohol, physical dependence causing BTM etc.. - So a certain poison which forces you to supply yourself because of the physical withdrawal symptoms. Because only through something like that could I possibly have imagined harming myself and those around me like that.
But the fact is that you get older and wiser. Provided that one was blessed something common sense, empathy and ego-free intelligence - one gets in the own periphery with the years so some with. Someone knows someone who knows someone, etc. who is addicted to an addiction such as gambling addiction and thus not only harms himself, but quite whole existences without fault with the ruin drives or has driven. I reject it from grundauf like each average RTL viewer and Bildleser, for lack of knowledge, interest, horizon or what I know what. Oberfflächlich, Arogant pre-judging statements about something to make, without me at least something more intense to have dealt with the matter. Maybe it is because that one is aware and again the other, it will probably never be aware ONLY BECAUSE ONE CANNOT IMAGINE SOMETHING - IT CANNOT BE SO!
So you should put your ego a little back and not put every single word on the gold scale what the boy writes there, because it will probably not have been easy for him.
What he says in general about his condition fits. The whole thing is not so from now on, but a process with concatenation of many other factors that include the mental, social and lifestyle environment.
IF HE WOULD PRESENT EVERY FACT, CORRECTLY DEFINED, AND IF HE WOULD HAVE MANAGED TO DISCARD THE LEARNED EMBELLISHMENT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE YEARS OF LYING FOR PROTECTION FROM CONSEQUENCES, THE AUTOMATED UNCONSCIOUS PERMANENT LIE - THEN HE WOULD BE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING, BUT SO TO SPEAK "DRY"!
It is certainly not nice to be a prisoner of oneself and despite being aware of it - not to be able to fight against this compulsion! That is I think a whole house number more, when it comes to a pure psychological dependence - there f**ks you your own brain and that with the part over which you have zero control - to get out of it is ......
I JUST SAY AS LONG AS YOU NOTICE IT IS NOT TOO LATE! THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T REALIZE THAT HE HAS A PROBLEM CAN'T BE HELPED EITHER! I can not formulate more aptly:
"Einstein said: the definition of insanity is to always do the same thing and expect a different result!"
therefore do something, get help u if it is only a small step, it is a step
Thank you for what you wrote, it gave me a lift.
I have to say that in the 8 years I have also paid off debts in the amount of 1500 EUR and I have to agree with @Dagmarlena, do I have to have a certain amount of debt and be considered a gambling addict?
If you knew my life is then you would change your mind @saschamk.
Due to gambling addiction my life has changed, depression, no self-confidence anymore, lost social contacts etc.
For you 300 € may not be much for me.
But that's just my opinion.
In the end :(
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I no longer think about food when shopping. I tried to do a therapy which I broke off after a few days (don't ask me why).
I would like to accept help but it is extremely difficult for me to keep appointments. In the meantime I don't give a shit about anything.
More often suicidal thoughts (not serious) but they are there. Also I have problems to open up to others in everything I do I am always nervous (at appointments etc etc).
Also suffering from severe depression for a few years now don't know what to do .
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Ever talked to the parents about the problem ?
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so i think your biggest problem
is your psyche because your depressions
and the lack of self-confidence are
certainly difficult to handle in everyday life.
you should consider a talk therapy
consider (behavioral therapy).
these are individual sessions (so only you and the
the therapist) where you can talk about your problems or whatever else is on your mind.
i also did one for other reasons but talking about your problems alone with an
to talk about your problems with an independent person can be very helpful. of course you have to find someone you can trust...it took me 5 therapists until i found the right one but you can tell already in the first session that i have found the right therapist
you can tell in the first session if it works or not
with such a therapist you can of course talk ūabout your gambling problem, although that does not
doesn't seem to be that dramatic for you. the therapists can't do magic either, but it helped me.
it will certainly cost you some personal effort in the beginning, but that will pass in no time.
all the best
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now but👎What are you for one? Who are you, the standard of all things or why do you allow yourself to prescribe the definition to fulfill an addictive disorder?
The emphasis here is on disease!!!
As if a certain amount X of debts had to be accumulated before the disease of gambling addiction is diagnosed.
Regardless of the fact that an addict (usually for years) has built up a framework of lies to disguise what he is doing from his environment.
In the course of his gambling addiction (or addiction in general) - he is basically quickly aware of his problem - but as is the case with addictions, his addiction pressure will do everything to make him suppress this so that the reward center in the brain is satisfied.
Accordingly, one should be able to imagine the behavioral change of an addict logically and how it relates to the truth content in detail regarding his statements!
Even if I can imagine this personally really only with difficulty that one destroys compulsively his existence, quality of life etc. - acts against all reason and cannot stop with it, money only for the hope of a possible next win, somewhere reinzuverpulvern!
I associate addiction in the first place with a dependence on tangible things that you first hold in your hand, in order to subsequently harm yourself with it, come hell or high water.
Like tablets, alcohol, physical dependence causing BTM etc.. - So a certain poison which forces you to supply yourself because of the physical withdrawal symptoms. Because only through something like that could I possibly have imagined harming myself and those around me like that.
But the fact is that you get older and wiser. Provided that one was blessed something common sense, empathy and ego-free intelligence - one gets in the own periphery with the years so some with. Someone knows someone who knows someone, etc. who is addicted to an addiction such as gambling addiction and thus not only harms himself, but quite whole existences without fault with the ruin drives or has driven.
I reject it from grundauf like each average RTL viewer and Bildleser, for lack of knowledge, interest, horizon or what I know what. Oberfflächlich, Arogant pre-judging statements about something to make, without me at least something more intensive to have dealt with the matter.
Maybe it is because that one is aware and again the other, it will probably never be aware
ONLY BECAUSE ONE CANNOT IMAGINE SOMETHING - IT CANNOT BE SO!
So you should put your ego a little back and not put every single word on the gold scale what the boy writes there, because it will probably not have been easy for him.
What he says in general about his condition fits. The whole thing is not so from now on, but a process with concatenation of many other factors that include the mental, social and lifestyle environment.
IF HE WOULD PRESENT EVERY FACT CORRECTLY DEFINED AND IF HE WOULD HAVE MANAGED TO GET RID OF THE LEARNED EMBELLISHMENT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE YEARS OF LYING FOR PROTECTION FROM CONSEQUENCES, THE AUTOMATED UNCONSCIOUS PERMANENT LIE - THEN HE WOULD BE ADDICTED TO GAMBLING BUT SO TO SPEAK "DRY"!
It is certainly not nice to be a prisoner of oneself and despite being aware of it - not to be able to fight against this compulsion! That is I think a whole house number more, when it comes to a pure psychological dependence - there f**ks you your own brain and that with the part over which you have zero control - to get out of it is ......
I JUST SAY AS LONG AS YOU NOTICE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
THE PERSON WHO DOESN'T REALIZE THAT HE HAS A PROBLEM CAN'T BE HELPED EITHER!
I can not formulate more aptly:
"Einstein said: the definition of insanity is to always do the same thing and expect a different result!"
therefore do something, get help u if it is only a small step, it is a step
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Someone has to define this and since I have come to the conclusion after my complex calculations, that with a term of 8 years, the exact amount of Debt must be 301 € to be called a problem case, I have the young man friendly pointed out that he may not take this right, according to the current file situation, unfortunately. I'm sorry if the lady this indisputable fact does not fit into their colorful world view but that's just the way it is
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What suits me or not, has no value at all. But it is obvious that you have not understood Gambling addiction as such by definition. You are confusing a negative consequence of the disease - as once again named by you here -> that of the amount of debt - with the disease itself!
And thus your complete principle is wrong!
Because the financial aspect is only one of the results of this addiction! That what from a certain debt height one, so to speak for the public, the addiction illness no more conceals lets!
At the latest if the house of cards collapses everything is obviously Aufgeflogen.
The financial drama is the result, which for affected and outsiders most concisely the gambling addiction emerges and thereby the connection falsely to the addiction goes along with the debts
If this were so, then the person would not be addicted to gambling and would not have a compulsive clinical picture until he has reached a certain sum that becomes a problem and threatens the cost of living. Which is absolute nonsense!
Most drunks and or junkies reveal their problem for all ersichtlicht. Through one of the results of their addiction - which would be, among other things, the physical decline
If your argument would be true, a drug addict would not be addicted as long as he is not visibly physically marked and socially ruined
But the fact is:
there are a lot of alcohol and opiate addicts, who suffer from this disease for decades, but are able to hide it from the outside world.
They are respected, renowned and although they act negligently, because these persons are not master of their senses. They still actively perform responsible tasks, for example, in their profession. For example, doctors such as surgeons who handle the life of a person but would never be allowed to do so if the circumstance of their addiction would be known!
Therefore your statement is small-minded garbage!
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Thank you for what you wrote, it gave me a lift.
I have to say that in the 8 years I have also paid off debts in the amount of 1500 EUR and I have to agree with @Dagmarlena, do I have to have a certain amount of debt and be considered a gambling addict?
If you knew my life is then you would change your mind @saschamk.
Due to gambling addiction my life has changed, depression, no self-confidence anymore, lost social contacts etc.
For you 300 € may not be much for me.
But that's just my opinion.
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