@pascalst
First of all : I feel ignored since you do not respond to my amounts, shame on you
And that is exactly the case. If you think streamers have big wins too often, you are wrong.
Great how you quote me to refute a claim that has nothing to do with the quote.I feel honored and sullied at the same time
What makes the streamers idiots? They make a lot of money with manageable effort.
You're finally right, idiots are not the streamers but those who fall for this bait and switch ( natural selection ?)
If someone here claims streamers have a better RTP or the casinos would manipulate to recruit new players,
then that is just impudent and brazen.
Since you have the insight, explain to me why streamers create the wager more often than average. That's a fact and these data are provided by streamers themselves - see "!cashout" at jamjarboy, to each his (almost) daily cashout And anyway, most are anyway in the plus even without affiliate....
Or Shirox : He deposits 100€ and gets 100€ bonus. With these 200€ he plays Cats N Cash on 25€ (8 spins + Basegame return) and surprisingly he actually gets the bonus more often than you can believe (of course not always). Purely mathematically thrown away 100€ - only with Shirox it works out now and then Explanation ? Luck? Do the Illuminati have their fingers in the pie ? But mostly the obvious solution is also the right one ...
I could call at this point still dozens of examples which run against every mathematical probability....
VW knew however how high the costs will be approximately, if one catches them thereby
Apparently it was worth it in the end.
If a slot Provider or casino gets caught cheating it's over
BTG would not Risk everything to then lose everything in the event of a leak by an employee.
Why is it a profitable business for VW but the downfall for BTG ? How do you know what BTG's internal roadmap for profit optimization looks like? In addition, it would be in this case no fraud but the advertising to assign (BTG is meant, of course, not VW). A leak that streamers are routed to a "special" server that pays better would not even trigger a shitstorm but at best a "I thought so"
And why should doubters always present evidence ? The streamers claim but that you play with real money and everything else is normal.but that can be just as little and the show the payment history or e-wallets says nothing if a casino the Affiliate the "expenses" normally back or advances.
And where do you take the liberty to call people who do not accept your opinion and doubt as moronic, impudent, brazen and clueless with disturbed self-perception?
Now pants down Jung, which Streamer / moderator are you or what do you have to do with them? Your tendency to defend streamers is obviously pathological after reviewing your comment history. And instead of arguing objectively you come up with nothing but hot air and insults... somehow I feel reminded of the discussions with Royal777 ...
Small addendum because I could not edit my post:
Grad with Shirox reingezappt and he plays but as described above Cats N Cash on 25€ with 200€ balance and gets even 2 times the bonus Lucky guy the ...
Or Shirox : He deposits 100€ and gets 100€ bonus. With these 200€ he plays Cats N Cash to 25€ (8 spins + Basegame return) and surprisingly he actually gets the bonus more often than you can believe (of course not always). Purely mathematically thrown away 100€ - only with Shirox it works out then nevertheless now and then Explanation ? Luck? Do the Illuminati have their fingers in the game ? But mostly the obvious solution is the right one ...
I could call at this point still dozens of examples which run against every mathematical probability....
That's just your perception that it runs against any mathematical probability.
He does these spins on sunmaker, one of the best casinos around.
Why is it a profitable business for VW, but the downfall for BTG ? How do you know what BTG's internal roadmap for profit optimization looks like ? In addition, it would be in this case no fraud but the advertising to assign (BTG is meant, of course not VW). A leak that streamers are routed to a "special" server that pays better would not even trigger a shitstorm but at best a "I thought so"
VW will always sell cars, no matter what.
If a slot Provider is caught manipulating the odds, this provider is immediately worthless and all those responsible can forget their careers
And why should doubters always present evidence ? The streamers claim that they are playing with real money and that everything else is normal, but they can't and showing the payment history or e-wallets says nothing if a casino transfers the "expenses" back to the Affiliate normally or advances them.
What a bullshit. Money that is transferred back after the streams.
At big casinos like LeoVegas, Casumo or Sunmaker? Ridiculous this idea!
And from where do you take the liberty to call people who do not accept your opinion and doubt as moronic, impudent, brazen and clueless with disturbed self-perception?
I take it sometimes, if one comes me like you straight with strange conspiracy theories.
Alleged Streamer RTP or wins paid out and then returned to the casino.
Your tendency to defend streamers is obviously pathological after reviewing your comment history. And instead of arguing factually you come up with nothing but hot air and insults...
There are a lot of people here who accuse streamers and the casinos in which they play of fraud. Just like that and without any proof.
In my opinion, this is pretty cheeky and brazen. Streamers who play with real money like to show their account history and that too in different casinos
Why do you feel compelled to write a comment ? I find many threads in this forum boring and uninteresting, but I do not have to announce this in these threads.
I don't like to be a pawn and I discuss here because I have empathy for my fellow human beings, but I leave you the choice to decide for yourself when you read this thread. I have nothing against (credible) casino streamers or affiliates but I have something against people who enrich themselves with lies on other people.
@pascalst
That's just your perception that it runs against any mathematical probability.
He does these spins on sunmaker, one of the best casinos around.
First, math is not a matter of perception or have you ever had 2 + 2 feel like 5 ?
In addition, you have probably not read my addendum, you can watch the video at Shirox from yesterday and compare the time with my contribution. Since Play'N Go fades in the time fine with - it was at 20:44, I posted my contribution at 20:29
As for sunmaker : We agreed yet the casino does not play a role but the results come from the providers.(See your post 26.10.2019, at 16:13)
I have not claimed in any of my post that manipulation is going on. Please do not put this in my mouth again and again, if you have misunderstood something read my posts again.
Such a bullshit. Money that is transferred back after the streams.
At big casinos like LeoVegas, Casumo or Sunmaker? Ridiculous this idea!
You want to tell me now that there are no streamers with Fakemoney or Casinomoney ? I don't know if the money is refunded or not and it doesn't matter how the money flows - there are more than enough possibilities. Or does this only apply to your favorite streamers who are above reproach although they are no different from other fakestreamers - even a Roshtein has shown his progress or e-wallet accounts. Is he now also 100% legit ??? Am curious about your answer....
I take it sometimes, if one comes me like you straight with strange conspiracy theories.
Ahh, the conspiracy theorist's club , that was me already when I spat into the soup of the call-in TV rip-off artists. Since then, I have heard this word so many times, but in the end I have been right every time. Those who gained a personal (usually monetary) advantage from it have always been particularly fond of using this word and were also basically inclined to dub critics as morons
Here are a lot of people on the road who accuse streamers and the casinos in which they play of fraud. Just like that and without any proof.
I agree with you - it is not - at least according to German law - no fraud. In addition, I have neither streamers, casinos or providers accused of fraud. You yourself, however, remain in your statements also guilty of any evidence, but demand it again and again from others. Facts such as statements of streamers or that there are different variants of the slot servers you exclude well-groomed and if you a statement of someone else does not fit this is countered with a disdainful insult - objective argumentation is unfortunately not your thing, right? Is also difficult if one wants to push through absolutely "his truth" without if and but
Latino wrote on 10/26/2019 at 8:29 pm: @pascalst
First of all : I feel left out since you don't respond to my amounts, shame on you
Why is it a profitable business for VW but the downfall for BTG ? How do you know what BTG's internal roadmap for profit optimization looks like ? In addition, it would be in this case no fraud but the advertising to assign (BTG is meant, of course not VW). A leak that streamers are routed to a "special" server that pays better would not even trigger a shitstorm but at best a "I thought so"
And why should doubters always present evidence ? The streamers claim that they play with real money and everything else is normal, but they can't and showing the payment history or e-wallets says nothing if a casino transfers the "expenses" back to the Affiliate normally or advances it.
And where do you take the liberty to call people who do not accept your opinion and doubt as moronic, impudent, brazen and clueless with disturbed self-perception?
Now pants down Jung, which Streamer / moderator are you or what do you have to do with them? Your tendency to defend streamers is obviously pathological after reviewing your comment history. And instead of arguing objectively you come up with nothing but hot air and insults... somehow I feel reminded of the discussions with Royal777 ...
They manage the wager more often because they get more bonus and have to fulfill significantly lower wager.
That they have completely different conditions to play is already unfair. I doubt that another server is used for this.
A leak that is clear would of course trigger a shitstorm. The underestimated what the reactions in Malta, UK would be... they can do more than German sausages without a legal basis.
What you read here in part really hard
and I thought my Aluhut is big... "2 versions there are of lil devil for normalos and for streamers", have laughed well thanks for that.
"some garbage slot that only bangs on streamers" i wonder how i could accidentally get into the "lil devil slot for streamers"
the 11k I had to transfer back to Casumo after it turned out later that I accidentally got into the version for streamers . Now joking aside but it is possible, even as a normalo... i do not know how long you have played the game or how often you have reached the bonus with and without Heartstopper to make such judgments, I had since the release of the slot in various casinos as good as nothing else as lil devil gambled from 0.10 cent - 0.80 cents bets until it was finally at some point on 0.30 cents I had certainly 100-150 times normal free spins and 30-40 times the Heartstopper full which have also paid moderately to as good as nothing ...
can only say ... it is not called "Big Time Gaming" good just takes its time ...
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Ralkone wrote on 10.02.2020 at 20:03 clock: What you read here in part really hard
and I thought my Aluhut is big... "2 versions there are of lil devil for normalos and for streamers", got a good laugh thanks for that.
"some garbage slot that only bangs on streamers" i wonder how i could accidentally get into the "lil devil slot for streamers"
the 11k I had to transfer back to Casumo after it turned out later that I accidentally got into the version for streamers . Now joking aside but it is possible, even as a normalo... i do not know how long you have played the game or how often you have reached the bonus with and without Heartstopper to make such judgments, I had since the release of the slot in various casinos as good as nothing else as lil devil gambled from 0.10 cent - 0.80 cents bets until it was finally at some point on 0.30 cents I had certainly 100-150 times normal free spins and 30-40 times the Heartstopper full which have also paid moderately to as good as nothing ...
can only say ... it is not called "Big Time Gaming" good just takes its time ...
I think you had more games than just 150. how often did you have at least a factor of 500x before the 11k hit? Do you know that still cirka
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It's funny your self-perception.
Interesting statement.
What makes the streamers idiots then? They make a lot of money with manageable effort
If someone here claims streamers have a better RTP or the casinos would manipulate to recruit new players,
then that is just impudent and brazen.
I've been gambling for a couple of years now, I'm almost always in control and only gamble with small stakes
It will stay that way.
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First of all : I feel ignored since you do not respond to my amounts, shame on you
Great how you quote me to refute a claim that has nothing to do with the quote.I feel honored and sullied at the same time
You're finally right, idiots are not the streamers but those who fall for this bait and switch ( natural selection ?)
Since you have the insight, explain to me why streamers create the wager more often than average. That's a fact and these data are provided by streamers themselves - see "!cashout" at jamjarboy, to each his (almost) daily cashout And anyway, most are anyway in the plus even without affiliate....
Or Shirox : He deposits 100€ and gets 100€ bonus. With these 200€ he plays Cats N Cash on 25€ (8 spins + Basegame return) and surprisingly he actually gets the bonus more often than you can believe (of course not always). Purely mathematically thrown away 100€ - only with Shirox it works out now and then Explanation ? Luck? Do the Illuminati have their fingers in the pie ? But mostly the obvious solution is also the right one ...
I could call at this point still dozens of examples which run against every mathematical probability....
Why is it a profitable business for VW but the downfall for BTG ? How do you know what BTG's internal roadmap for profit optimization looks like? In addition, it would be in this case no fraud but the advertising to assign (BTG is meant, of course, not VW). A leak that streamers are routed to a "special" server that pays better would not even trigger a shitstorm but at best a "I thought so"
And why should doubters always present evidence ? The streamers claim but that you play with real money and everything else is normal.but that can be just as little and the show the payment history or e-wallets says nothing if a casino the Affiliate the "expenses" normally back or advances.
And where do you take the liberty to call people who do not accept your opinion and doubt as moronic, impudent, brazen and clueless with disturbed self-perception?
Now pants down Jung, which Streamer / moderator are you or what do you have to do with them? Your tendency to defend streamers is obviously pathological after reviewing your comment history. And instead of arguing objectively you come up with nothing but hot air and insults... somehow I feel reminded of the discussions with Royal777 ...
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That's just your perception that it runs against any mathematical probability.
He does these spins on sunmaker, one of the best casinos around.
VW will always sell cars, no matter what.
If a slot Provider is caught manipulating the odds, this provider is immediately worthless and all those responsible can forget their careers
What a bullshit. Money that is transferred back after the streams.
At big casinos like LeoVegas, Casumo or Sunmaker? Ridiculous this idea!
I take it sometimes, if one comes me like you straight with strange conspiracy theories.
Alleged Streamer RTP or wins paid out and then returned to the casino.
There are a lot of people here who accuse streamers and the casinos in which they play of fraud. Just like that and without any proof.
In my opinion, this is pretty cheeky and brazen. Streamers who play with real money like to show their account history and that too in different casinos
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Why do you feel compelled to write a comment ? I find many threads in this forum boring and uninteresting, but I do not have to announce this in these threads.
I don't like to be a pawn and I discuss here because I have empathy for my fellow human beings, but I leave you the choice to decide for yourself when you read this thread. I have nothing against (credible) casino streamers or affiliates but I have something against people who enrich themselves with lies on other people.
@pascalst
First, math is not a matter of perception or have you ever had 2 + 2 feel like 5 ?
In addition, you have probably not read my addendum, you can watch the video at Shirox from yesterday and compare the time with my contribution. Since Play'N Go fades in the time fine with - it was at 20:44, I posted my contribution at 20:29
As for sunmaker : We agreed yet the casino does not play a role but the results come from the providers.(See your post 26.10.2019, at 16:13)
I have not claimed in any of my post that manipulation is going on. Please do not put this in my mouth again and again, if you have misunderstood something read my posts again.
You want to tell me now that there are no streamers with Fakemoney or Casinomoney ? I don't know if the money is refunded or not and it doesn't matter how the money flows - there are more than enough possibilities. Or does this only apply to your favorite streamers who are above reproach although they are no different from other fakestreamers - even a Roshtein has shown his progress or e-wallet accounts. Is he now also 100% legit ??? Am curious about your answer....
Ahh, the conspiracy theorist's club , that was me already when I spat into the soup of the call-in TV rip-off artists. Since then, I have heard this word so many times, but in the end I have been right every time. Those who gained a personal (usually monetary) advantage from it have always been particularly fond of using this word and were also basically inclined to dub critics as morons
I agree with you - it is not - at least according to German law - no fraud. In addition, I have neither streamers, casinos or providers accused of fraud. You yourself, however, remain in your statements also guilty of any evidence, but demand it again and again from others. Facts such as statements of streamers or that there are different variants of the slot servers you exclude well-groomed and if you a statement of someone else does not fit this is countered with a disdainful insult - objective argumentation is unfortunately not your thing, right? Is also difficult if one wants to push through absolutely "his truth" without if and but
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As last I would ask you to leave that with the insults.
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They manage the wager more often because they get more bonus and have to fulfill significantly lower wager.
That they have completely different conditions to play is already unfair. I doubt that another server is used for this.
A leak that is clear would of course trigger a shitstorm. The underestimated what the reactions in Malta, UK would be... they can do more than German sausages without a legal basis.
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and I thought my Aluhut is big... "2 versions there are of lil devil for normalos and for streamers", have laughed well thanks for that.
"some garbage slot that only bangs on streamers" i wonder how i could accidentally get into the "lil devil slot for streamers"
the 11k I had to transfer back to Casumo after it turned out later that I accidentally got into the version for streamers . Now joking aside but it is possible, even as a normalo... i do not know how long you have played the game or how often you have reached the bonus with and without Heartstopper to make such judgments, I had since the release of the slot in various casinos as good as nothing else as lil devil gambled from 0.10 cent - 0.80 cents bets until it was finally at some point on 0.30 cents I had certainly 100-150 times normal free spins and 30-40 times the Heartstopper full which have also paid moderately to as good as nothing ...
can only say ... it is not called "Big Time Gaming" good just takes its time ...
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I think you had more games than just 150. how often did you have at least a factor of 500x before the 11k hit? Do you know that still cirka
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