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Off topic & small talk: Chatterbox (Page 523)

Topic created on 14th Jan. 2019 | Page: 523 of 1172 | Answers: 11,710 | Views: 1,478,723
Stromberg
Legend
Falcon wrote on 01/18/2022 at 2:16 pm
Thank you for your factual post

There is no detectable difference between countries with hard lockdowns, soft lockdowns or no lockdowns
If I were to present you with 10 countries with only infection rates and ICU bed occupancy and other data on Corona, you would not be able to determine which of these countries had measures and which did not

At no time during Corona were the hospitals threatened by overcrowding. I recommend you search "The Pandemic in the Raw Data" on Youtube. There you will find facts and figures about the reduction of intensive care beds as well as facts and figures about the whole pandemic. If you can still find the video, because Youtube has extreme censorship which does not correspond to the official line
But this video will answer many questions conclusively and verifiably

Here is the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EloDckaM-ZA&t=3254s&ab_channel=leothemetal

If at all possible, I try to avoid Youtube videos on topics like this.
Who wants to make a serious factual contribution, please write a text
Only this offers mMn the basis to question when reading, to read several times certain passages, to look at graphics in peace etc...
These YouTube videos are in my eyes a bad habit, when it comes to such serious topics, just because people no longer have the will to read and then unquestioningly accept what is told in the video...

And these 10 countries you are talking about are comparable in terms of population age, test capacity and number of tests, seasonality at the time of collection of the data etc?

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Blubbo33
Elite
I've seen a couple of documentaries about it

And because it was like that then, is it like that now?


It makes rather the appearance that you are the person, the main thing against the state or do I see that wrong?

Is it because of your personal experiences or maybe dissatisfied life ?

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Falke
Expert
Stromberg wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:33
If at all possible, I try to avoid Youtube videos on topics like this.
Who wants to make a serious factual contribution, please write a text
Only that offers mMn the basis to question when reading, to read several times certain passages, to look at graphics in peace, etc...
These YouTube videos are in my eyes a bad habit, when it comes to such serious topics, just because people no longer have the desire to read and then unquestioningly accept what is told in the video...

And these 10 countries you are talking about are comparable in terms of population age, test capacity and number of tests, seasonality at the time of collection of data etc?

Check out the video starting at 41:30. Takes only 10 minutes. It shows exactly how they lied about bed occupancy.

Youtube is just a medium. The quality of the content varies greatly depending on who is publishing. Where else should critical voices pulplizieren if they find no hearing in the media.

But please look at just these 10 minutes. Of course, this is just the Tip of the iceberg


"And these 10 countries you are talking about are comparable in terms of population age, test capacity and number of tests,
seasonality at the point of data collection etc also comparable? "

Yes, if you rolled comparable countries together and covered up the name, you wouldn't be able to tell any difference in terms of measures.

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R3hab
Expert
This whole corona shit is just annoying
The politicians all play up and enjoy the attention of the population, and make a on beta test times nen really violent virus comes, which could kill us all, but is that right?
This can be practiced differently I honestly feel like an experimental object
And I had to vaccinate me otherwise no work, but I'm young and have no pre-existing conditions, my body can corona so wuppen without ne vaccination, but noiiin I have to.... Find the shit, not everyone is the same and min 70% of the population Brauch no vaccination, more likely to have a preload or older
I am not a vaccination opponent am even vaccinated but ne 3 vaccination I also do not want more, this is really too far...
But yes Las the monkeys make what want to make against these politicians who really has no relation to the people more
Times honestly the cool all on corona on
And want to talk all smart so as you all here.... is just ne new type of flu
These vaccines should be tested for 10 years or more because corona is not gone tomorrow it will stay forever
And the vaccine is useless if corona is always evolving

The problem is that the politicians themselves have no plan and Hollen iwelche virologists in politics

Achhh höooooor me on







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Falke
Expert
Blubbo33 wrote on 01/18/2022 at 2:36 pm: I've seen a few docs about it

And because it was then it is now ?


It makes rather the appearance that you are the person, main thing against the state or do I see it wrong ?

Is it because of your personal experiences or maybe dissatisfied life ?


Yes, it can be very frustrating when you spend hundreds of hours intensively studying a topic in detail because you want to understand what is going on and then other people burp the propaganda of the media in your face

And no, I am not mainly against the state and also not dissatisfied with my life

I am a great advocate of basic and human rights and a democratic free state. And see it as a civic duty to stand up against it when dispots try to eliminate this order to establish a surveillance state without rights

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Blubbo33
Elite
Falke wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:46
Yes, it can be very frustrating when you spend hundreds of hours intensively studying a topic in detail because you want to understand what is going on and then other people burp the media propaganda in your face

And no, I am not mainly against the state and also not dissatisfied with my life

I am a great advocate of basic and human rights and a democratic free state. And see it as a civic duty to stand up against it when dispots try to eliminate this order to establish a surveillance state without rights.

You see, and I am a person who wants only the best for you or royal000 and for everyone else.

And since I am of the opinion that vaccination is the best, I appeal for it, nothing more.

And I take the facts on which I am based, you just like me, do not know what is 100% correct. Even your sources do not give certainty!?

But I also do not start to look for the blame on others, ultimately the virus is to blame

Nevertheless, I try hard to implement the obvious and put on a mask to protect others .

And you should do the same, if not for yourself, at least for others

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Anonym
Falcon wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:31


By the way, Pandemrix was the vaccine against swine flu at the time and it led to narcolepsy. An incurable disease. Many children are also affected by it. You are welcome to google it. The vaccine was also presented as very safe at that time.

Dr. Christian Drosten, our super virologist from the TV, predicted at that time even an extinction of humans if one would not be inoculated with it. A few years earlier, hundreds of thousands of animals had been destroyed, also because of a false assumption (H5N8)...

Were there consequences? No. But the then opponents of vaccination were supporters of the super-ultra-right-wing party "The Pirates", at least according to the mainstream

The report from arte can still be seen on YT

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Stromberg
Legend
Falcon wrote on 01/18/2022 at 14:42
Check out the video starting at 41:30. Takes only 10 minutes. There it shows exactly how they lied about bed occupancy.

Youtube is just a medium. The quality of the content varies greatly depending on who is publishing. Where else should critical voices pulplizieren if they find no hearing in the media.

But please look at just these 10 minutes. Of course, this is just the Tip of the iceberg


"And these 10 countries you're talking about are comparable in terms of population age, test capacity and number of tests,
seasonality at the point of data collection etc also comparable? "

Yes, if you rolled comparable countries together and covered up the name, you wouldn't be able to tell any difference in terms of measures.

Well, your link from Reitschuster was not a video, on telepolis you can publish texts, if you want to you can probably do that...

Maybe I'll have a look at the corresponding part of the video tonight, and maybe you'll read the corresponding fact check to the video. ( I know, these are not particularly popular, but offer nevertheless again and again starting points around some things still a 2.x to regard)
Maybe then we both discover one or the other point that we have not previously considered so...

https://correctiv.org/faktencheck/2021/09/20/das-video-die-pandemie-in-rohdaten-laesst-kontext-aus-und-fuehrt-so-in-die-irre/

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Falke
Expert
Blubbo33 wrote on 18.01.2022 at 14:58
See, and I am a person who wants only the best for you or royal000 and for everyone else .

And since I am of the opinion that vaccinating is the best I appeal for it, nothing more .

And I take the facts on which I am based, you just like me, do not know what is 100% correct. Even your sources do not give certainty!?

But I also do not start to look for the blame on others, ultimately the virus is to blame

Nevertheless, I try hard to implement the obvious and put on a mask to protect others .

And you should do the same, if not for yourself, at least for others

You yourself can do what you want

But you have no right to demand it from others. And that is exactly the problem when you abolish basic rights
In the past, you were legally protected and no one was so massively oppressed by one side. Imagine you would be forced by law to follow my life model

That with you hop and malt is lost, is obvious. The way you pray down the government propaganda is scary. "Protect yourself and others"

As you said yourself, you didn't care about that before either. And if you didn't demand to put on a mask in front of Corona then that's nothing more than pure hypocrisy to have suddenly discovered his misunderstood "compassion". That you millions of people who are additionally threatened by starvation by the measures are completely indifferent underlines the hypocrisy only additionally

Clearly, starving children solve with you only a shoulder shrug. But 90 year olds have suddenly your fullest sympathy. Wers believes becomes blessed

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Falke
Expert
Stromberg wrote on 18.01.2022 at 15:10
Well, your link from Reitschuster was not a video, on telepolis you can publish texts, if you want to you can probably do that...

Maybe I'll have a look at the relevant part of the video tonight, and maybe you read the associated fact check to the video once. ( I know, these are not particularly popular, but offer nevertheless again and again starting points around some things still a 2.x to regard)
Maybe then we both discover one or the other point that we have not previously considered so...

https://correctiv.org/faktencheck/2021/09/20/das-video-die-pandemie-in-rohdaten-laesst-kontext-aus-und-fuehrt-so-in-die-irre/

Deal

That's how we do it

But then you have to watch the whole video. That's what the "fact check" refers to

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