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Topic created on 11th Dec. 2020 | Page: 7 of 11 | Answers: 101 | Views: 25,817
T****z
Slothot wrote on 23.12.2020 at 15:39: No Tribeholz, the reading that EU law and freedom of services/discrimination prohibition are relevant, does not change with the case law of the BGH and ECJ. Precisely because the State Treaty on Gambling in the Federal Republic of Germany has been repeatedly classified as contrary to European law.
So simply as you represent it, it is also not.
But well, the OP good luck and all others a Merry Christmas


Well, if everything would be so slippery, then why the note "This offer is only valid for people with residence in Schleswig-Holstein"?
By the way, I have never read at nem cinema, bakery, ect.....

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u****n
Slothot wrote on 23.12.2020 at 17:02: No, partly already since 2016...

The latest, from the OLG Düsseldorf and OLG Munich, only this year

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Slothot
Amateur
Tribeholz wrote on 12/23/2020 at 5:03 pm

Well, if everything would be so ass slick why then the note "This offer is only valid for people with residence in Schleswig-Holstein"???
By the way, I have never read at nem cinema, baker, ect.....


Since some here represent the opinion that would be so, then let's go... Get your losses back, what stops you? But let me guess, it's like the other forum. A whole bunch of frustrated players ranting and raving, not daring and just waiting for someone else to FINALLY succeed so you can do the same. In addition, it is forgotten that each case is considered in court as an individual case...

And honestly, I have already written so much about it and was mostly right, I will not repeat it all again here...
Sue or leave it, but save yourself this pointless casino or payment service Provider bashing... Especially since you yourself make the decision to deposit. This was already stated in 2016 by the OLG Berlin Brandenburg

But you do not dare anyway, because the chances of success are too low.

Topic for me finally ticked off...

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T****z

Slothot wrote on 12/23/2020 at 5:43 pm
Since some here think that would be the case, let's do it... Get your losses back, what's stopping you? But let me guess, it's like the other forum. A whole bunch of frustrated players ranting and raving, not daring and just waiting for someone else to FINALLY succeed so you can do the same. In addition, it is forgotten that each case is considered in court as an individual case...

And honestly, I have already written so much about it and was mostly right, I will not repeat it all here again...
Sue or leave it, but save yourself this pointless casino or payment service Provider bashing... Especially since you yourself make the decision to deposit. This was already stated in 2016 by the OLG Berlin Brandenburg

But you do not dare anyway, because the chances of success are too low.

Topic for me finally ticked off...

Nope, I myself have no desire to do so...First, I had not soo much loss and secondly, I'm happy when I have nothing to do with courts

But I don't care if others do
On the contrary, I celebrate them when they get it right - after all, you should be able to indulge yourself.

And if the OC here are not illegal at all, I still do not understand why they themselves point out in the advertising that everything is only valid for players from SH.

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gamble1
Legend
Tribeholz wrote on 12/23/2020 at 6:22 pm

Nope, I'm not into it myself...First, I didn't have that much loss and second, I'm happy when I don't have to deal with courts

But I don't care if others do it
On the contrary, I celebrate them when they get it right - after all, you should be able to indulge yourself.

And if the OC here are not illegal at all, I still do not understand why they themselves point out in the advertising that everything is only valid for players from SH.

Because in DE only SH has licensed casinos and according to DE law thus all others act prohibited who gamble there no matter whether .de side or .com

And consequently, the advertising is designed so that under national law only SH people are allowed to play there

Until then simple but then there is still the EU law and since we are in the EU it also applies to us that does not affect the advertising ban in DE but very well the participation because all Germans are in the EU and not only SH

And Bingo you have a gray area or at least such a tricky case that only a court can clarify the EU decides level

Since I'm not surprised that the district courts are totally smashed because they do not have the necessary view on it and simply have to orient themselves on national law

So you can say without it is regulated act all the same Illegal and also Legal so it can always go backwards if someone demands money back

Funnily enough all SH people also act illegal and legal when they can gamble on a MGA site

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T****z

gamble1 wrote on 23.12.2020 at 22:30
Because in DE only SH has licensed casinos and according to DE law therefore all others are forbidden to act who gamble there no matter if .de site or .com

And consequently the advertising is also designed so that under national law only SH people are allowed to play there

Until then simple but then there is still the EU law and since we are in the EU it also applies to us that does not affect the advertising ban in DE but very well the participation because all Germans are in the EU and not only SH

And Bingo you have a gray area or at least such a tricky case that only a court can clarify the EU decides level

Since I'm not surprised that the district courts are totally smashed because they do not have the necessary view on it and simply have to orient themselves on national law

So you can say without it is regulated act all the same Illegal and also Legal so it can always go backwards if someone demands money back

Funnily enough all SH people also act illegal and legal if they can gamble on a MGA site

Well you said it yourself: gray area

That means there are no CLEAR rules.
But they should actually prevail in an industry in which so many coals flow...

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gamble1
Legend
Tribeholz wrote on 12/24/2020 at 1:34 pm

Well you said it yourself: gray area

That means there are no CLEAR rules.
But they should actually prevail in an industry in which so many coals flow...

There are already clear rules, but the final question is not exactly clear and leaves a lot of room for all possible approaches, such as DE law and EU law

Of course, this is quite critical in such an industry because everything has to be proven for money, but first the whole DE EU stuff should be regulated so that all these interpretations are omitted and this is only possible with :

EU law overturns DE law or not but it must be clearly decided but should the former be the case it is more than questionable whether the current regulation will ever go through because this would mean many limitations

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Thomas520
Rookie
I'm excited to see what happens next here.

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Thomas520
Rookie
As long as it remains a gray area, there will always be these "money-back" campaigns and providers such as gluecksspielforderung.de etc.. It just has to be legalized. It's as simple as that.

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upola
Legend
Thomas520 wrote on 04/01/2021 at 01:52: I'm curious to see what happens next here.

Either the TE no longer reports or he reports that he has won.
What should he say other wen he has announced it here so great.

I do not understand that anyway, why one registers here extra and it must tell all how great one is, that one wants to sue a casino. And then still tell that he will win 100%.that alone is actually already enough.

It has already announced quite a few users that they want to sue a casino, and it was always just hot air.

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