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Topic created on 02nd Apr. 2019 | Page: 23 of 26 | Answers: 253 | Views: 76,901
Gewinner
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Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 08:14 pm CEST#221
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1.500,000 € is intense, if it is true, only why should you invent something like that, my condolences.
It just annoyed me that you constantly rage against online gambling so.
It is fairer than in the casino, believe me.
and don't get me started on the Gauselmann machines, right?
You could have saved the rest, no offense.

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Anonym

Indication because of §285 StGB

11th Apr. 2019, at 01:58 pm CEST#222
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SevenEleven wrote on 04/08/2019 1:25 PM

Dubists2018, I am sufficiently well read on the subject.

The discussions around state vs. federal law are quite interesting and nice, but nothing more as long as you continue to completely leave out EU law or its role here.

Is there already a judgment on EU law in gambling in Germany? If yes, I do not understand the whole discussion. If not, it is currently illegal to play here

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Indication because of §285 StGB

4th May. 2019, at 12:07 pm CEST#223
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Is there anything new here ?

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Indication because of §285 StGB

4th May. 2019, at 05:54 pm CEST#224
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Zockertyp89 wrote on 04/05/2019 at 12:07: Is there actually anything new here ?

Good question.

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Anonym

Indication because of §285 StGB

4th May. 2019, at 08:50 pm CEST#225
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In about 3 years. Then the German courts will have free capacities again.

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gamble1
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Indication because of §285 StGB

4th May. 2019, at 10:56 pm CEST#226
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mmessner29 wrote on 08/04/2019 at 11:24 am
Name me one country except North Korea by not having online gambling! Of course the censorship of the Internet's would be a way but in Germany is freedom of speech and freedom of information and no politician would dare to change what!

Are you sure look what the CDU does with the Internet

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Mo1985
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Indication because of §285 StGB

5th May. 2019, at 10:04 am CEST#227
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I can only repeat myself:

Here we are discussing a story that has already been written (in the USA).

All conceivable accusations against casino operators, top managers etc. can be read here:

https://www.pokerolymp.com/33296/die-anklageschrift-was-genau-wirft-das-fbi-pokerstars-full-tilt-und-ub-vor

This is exactly what will happen in Europe. Managers will be arrested, funds will be frozen, and in our country the banks will certainly be taken to task as well.

It's only a question of time until a few handcuffs click on Malta. Then there are horrendous fines and only the real potent casino providers will survive. All others are bankrupt after paying the fines.

No one will really end up hard in jail, but the big bang in Europe will come. Sooner or later the tax haven Malta will burst, because after the recession we will have a regulated market in every country.

In my world will survive: Pokerstars, Tipico, Bwi. Group, 888 Group

So only the big players with huge turnovers. All other casino providers will disappear. Skrill and co. will also disappear. Do you really think they will look at this for a long time where millions are shifted back and forth via wallets and marterialize with prepaid plastic cards?

By the way, bans are easily implemented by forcing the player providers such as NetEnt and Co. to cooperate only with licensed casinos and to block all other casinos.

I have now - because I am interested in the gambling industry, lenger and intensively dealt with it. It will bang in Europe, the question is only when.

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Anonym

Indication because of §285 StGB

5th May. 2019, at 10:14 am CEST#228
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gamble1 wrote on 05/04/2019 10:56 PM
Are you sure look what CDU is doing to the internet

Aside:
apparently criticism has helped. With us from 6.5.19 in 5 days *fiber optic* is laid and
i live in the village. Since the games must also turn faster *freumichdrauf*

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Indication because of §285 StGB

5th May. 2019, at 11:08 am CEST#229
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Mo1985 wrote on 05/05/2019 at 10:04: I can only repeat myself:

Here we are discussing a story that has long been written (in the USA).

All conceivable accusations against casino operators, top managers etc. can be read here:

https://www.pokerolymp.com/33296/die-anklageschrift-was-genau-wirft-das-fbi-pokerstars-full-tilt-und-ub-vor

This is exactly what will happen in Europe. Managers will be arrested, funds will be frozen, and in our country the banks will certainly be taken to task as well.

It's only a question of time until a few handcuffs click on Malta. Then there are horrendous fines and only the real potent casino providers will survive. All others are bankrupt after paying the fines.

No one will really end up hard in jail, but the big bang in Europe will come. Sooner or later the tax haven Malta will burst, because after the recession we will have a regulated market in every country.

In my world will survive: Pokerstars, Tipico, Bwi. Group, 888 Group

So only the big players with huge turnovers. All other casino providers will disappear. Skrill and co. will also disappear. Do you really think they will look at this for a long time where millions are shifted back and forth via wallets and marterialize with prepaid plastic cards?

By the way, bans are simply implemented by forcing the player providers such as NetEnt and Co. to cooperate only with licensed casinos and to block all other casinos.

I have now - because I am interested in the gambling industry, lenger and intensively dealt with it. It will bang in Europe, the question is only when.

You are comparing apples and oranges, we are not in the USA!
On the other hand, Germany is not the navel of the world, even if many may believe that...
Just to be clear, Skrill is not going to disappear, what a load of bollocks. Skrill belongs to the UK listed company Skrill Group (which includes Paysafe and Ukash), makes per day 13 billion euros (that's 4.8 trillion per year) in more than 200 countries around the world and is a very powerful financial company, they do not disappear just like that, not because of the online casino story you rated much too high.
Nothing will burst either in Malta or anywhere else, in the EU many countries have special rights and they stay because the other countries with special rights know how to prevent this for fear of their own.
That is also the point, all the MGA OCs act according to Maltese laws and will not disappear at least from there. Also, these companies will continue to be active in many countries, either with an additional license because there is regulation now, as in Sweden for example, or just under EU law. Under the current legal situation, handcuffs will not click for anyone, certainly not in Malta...what a pipe dream.
You want to force the game providers? ... don't make a fool of yourself, have you ever seen that many gaming providers have their licenses not only in Malta but also in Curacao, for example, they are all, at least the known ones, really heavy and have set themselves up accordingly, you can't force them to do anything!
What the defendants have done in the case mentioned here has a lot of criminal energy and we are far away from that here, If now in Germany, for example, the payment traffic to casinos is really prevented then you can simply no longer play normally, because no MGA-OC has something similar in Petto as described here. Then it will hail but lawsuits and what is really only a matter of time, is the fact that then sued and just Germany will then forced to install a regulation or this is then just realized via EU law.
The story here was not written in the U.S., because we do not function like the U.S., the EU has a completely different system and consists of more countries than just Germany, that will certainly not happen here.

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wettibernd
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Indication because of §285 StGB

5th May. 2019, at 12:21 pm CEST#230
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In the USA, things are different, see the diesel scandal. There, the customers are compensated, the companies have to pay fines and if the managers had their main residence there, they would be locked up for a few years. Here, the customers have the damage, the corporations continue to make record sales and the managers increase their own salaries. A small difference!

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