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Topic created on 02nd Apr. 2019 | Page: 22 of 26 | Answers: 253 | Views: 76,904
S****8

Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 11:43 am CEST#211
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Bone wrote on 08/04/2019 at 10:47: Great Britain has banned the internet porn

they didn't ban porn, they applied porn filters to ban hard porn ...so such extreme stuff !

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Elite

Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 11:45 am CEST#212
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Daniel wrote on 08/04/2019 at 10:57 am
So if you can successfully ban internet porn, then you can really ban anything - even the air you breathe. Are you sure this will be successful? Well I can't imagine that can be successful - unless you have an internet like North Korea has.

At least in the UK, the internet Provider has a filter set up in advance that filters out umpteen contents, including porn. In addition, pages glorifying violence or pages about suicide. However, you can apply to have this content unblocked

The point is that it is technically possible. This has nothing to do with North Korea. Nor does online gambling have anything to do with freedom of expression. Gambling is not a form of expression

And yes I really believe it would be possible to block casino sites and declare gambling illegal. Of course some would gamble, that's not the point at all. Every existing law is broken, otherwise a law would hardly make sense. Why ban something that no one does anyway. It often seems somewhat arbitrary what is forbidden and what is not. Especially with gambling, it also seems somewhat arbitrary what is officially gambling and what is not, and for this point alone I am in favor of regulating the online market. Because if you can gamble on every corner anyway, you should at least be allowed to use the full range of offers. If there were no Slot machines, casinos, lotteries or Scratch cards in Germany, such an online ban would not only make sense, but would also be feasible in my opinion

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S****8

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8th Apr. 2019, at 11:46 am CEST#213
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So one can apply nevertheless also filters in the gambling ...for example that one can lock oneself everywhere ...if one wants this!

I think a company to found the exactly this part takes over ... something like ne data base administers in that all players are seized on the basis an ID ...and if one wants to lock then it makes "blink" and from the mouse!

Would be an approach for future regulations! ?

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SevenEleven
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Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 01:25 pm CEST#214
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 04/04/2019 at 15:43

Maybe you read up first SevenEleven, possibly before you possibly deal with this -and you are also quite right -very difficult matter?

https://www.gluecksspiel-und-recht.de/urteile/Verbot-von-Online-Casinos-weiterhin-rechtmaessig-Oberverwaltungsgericht-L%C3%BCneburg-20180412/

https://www.bverwg.de/pm/2017/74

And please don't get me wrong, I really don't begrudge anyone here his fun.
So it would not be so that most unfortunately do not know what they get involved - and what concerns the lobbying really works in every respect outstanding.

In other words, or as a small addition, it also has a very nasty grimace - and one can only wish that most will be spared it

Ok the last one is probably wishful thinking, but so are the players ... "Dreamers".

Dubists2018, I am sufficiently read on the subject.

The discussions around state vs. federal law are quite interesting and nice, but nothing more as long as the EU law and its role here continues to be completely left out.

More on this or to you maybe times in another place - will now also not too OT 'reingrätschen here


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Ichbins2018
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8th Apr. 2019, at 02:27 pm CEST#215
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Bone wrote on 04/08/2019 00:41 PM

No one needs gambling to live a fulfilling life, gambling is addictive and leads to massive social problems. On the opposite side, the only thing is that it can be fun. For the individual, it would probably really make the most sense to ban gambling and to do so consistently. The normal person gains no added value from it, rather the opposite.

You couldn't have described "gambling" better, kudos @Bone

Objectively, I see the same as you, but there are also some who would defend the gambling to the last cartridge, see for example here in the forum and others are of course the losers.
Whereby the last ones are of course the undisputed number 1 -and with light years distance the absolute inferior majority.
Discussions pro gambling - and apart from the lobbyists, from the players themselves I find that always quite nice - and be it only to recognize how so some has lost / lost the reference to the present

But this is exactly the point of the so called today's gambling, on the one hand
Gambling which in my opinion is very far away from an actual gambling and secondly (otherwise the first would not apply)
you are coolly, very calculating and with extreme precision pulled over the table

Third - the second is of course stupid, but at least you're still at it yourself.

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Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 02:30 pm CEST#216
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/04/2019 at 14:27
You couldn't have described "gambling" any better, kudos @bones

Objectively, I see it the same as you, however, there are also some who would defend gambling to the last cartridge, see for example here in the forum and again others are of course inferentially the losers.
Whereby the last ones are of course the undisputed number 1 -and with light years distance the absolute inferior majority.
Discussions pro gambling - and apart from the lobbyists, from the players themselves I find them always quite nice - and be it only to recognize how some have lost / lost the reference to the present

But that's exactly the point of today's so-called gambling, on the one hand
Gambling which in my opinion is very far away from an actual gambling and secondly (otherwise the first would not apply)
you will coolly, very calculatingly and with extreme precision pull over the table

Third - the second is of course stupid, but at least you're still at it yourself.

That was an objective assessment on my part, personally I am still in favor of gambling being legal within a regulated framework. I am a liberalist in this point and think that an adult and responsible person should be allowed to make his own decisions regarding stimulants. Coffee used to be illegal, alcohol has been illegal in many places throughout human history, cocaine and marijuana are currently illegal in Germany - it's a bit arbitrary sometimes. In my opinion, drugs, gambling and other stimulants should be legal, but strictly regulated and heavily taxed

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Ichbins2018
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Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 03:35 pm CEST#217
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SevenEleven wrote on 04/08/2019 1:25 PM

Dubists2018, I am sufficiently well read on the subject.

The discussions around state vs. federal law are quite interesting and nice, but nothing more as long as you continue to completely leave out EU law or its role here.

More on this or to you maybe times in another place - will now also not too OT 'reingrätschen here



Hahaha ...very imaginative "Dubists"

As for your Europe though, I really can't get more than a laugh out of it at the moment, regardless of the gamble.

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Gewinner
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Indication because of §285 StGB

8th Apr. 2019, at 04:04 pm CEST#218
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/04/2019 at 15:35
Hahaha ...very imaginative "Dubists"

As for your Europe though, I really can't get more than a laugh out of it at the moment, regardless of the gamble

Been reading along with your sermon and attitude for a while now.

Think you are wrong here in the forum. Have probably lost thousands, Chargeback lost / not the possibility and stänkerst here with your legal layman babble around.
There are enough addiction forums, you are better off to rant against the oh so evil evil online gambling and have everyone on your side.

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Ichbins2018
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8th Apr. 2019, at 04:44 pm CEST#219
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Bone wrote on 08.04.2019 at 14:30
That was an objective assessment on my part, personally I am still in favor of gambling being legal within a regulated framework. I am a libertarian on the issue and believe an adult and responsible person should be allowed to make their own decisions regarding stimulants. Coffee used to be illegal, alcohol has been illegal in many places throughout human history, cocaine and marijuana are currently illegal in Germany - it's a bit arbitrary sometimes. In my opinion, drugs, gambling and other stimulants should be legal, but strictly regulated and heavily taxed.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, they can close down every joint for all I care, but I still can't conclude from me to others.

However, it would also welcome, would one seriously dran machen and regulate this market,
one where families protect their children and players who can no longer control can exclude themselves

If somewhere a danger goes out from and gambling does this definitely, nothing or very little is done against it, then I find that personally extremely alarming, an indictment and what concerns we have in Germany as the gambling (monopoly) is currently handled actually quite large deficits.

Even if the people think to be able to think independently, in some measure it also belongs protected.
Especially if the goal is to breed addicts - and unfortunately nothing else can be seen for me, and thus also nothing good.

But could also lie with me?



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Ichbins2018
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8th Apr. 2019, at 05:03 pm CEST#220
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Winner wrote on 04/08/2019 16:04 PM

Been reading along with your sermon and attitude for a while now.

Think you are wrong here on the forum. Have probably lost tens of thousands, Chargeback lost / not the Möglichkeit and stänkerst here with your legal layman babble around.
There are enough addiction forums, you are better off to rant against the oh so evil evil online gambling and have everyone on your side.

Am I perhaps in the den of evil arrived and the little devil in you, perhaps want to forbid me the mouth?

Alright to calm you down and so you don't spit so many flames... I've never played online, so I guess I had a complete fail as far as your chargeback is concerned.
Likewise (if you're interested?) I'm also anything but a proponent of chargeback!

As far as losing is concerned you are more likely at the right address...guess it was around one and a half million. (only slot machines)
However, I also started small and at that time there were no people who railed against gambling, otherwise I might have been warned, I would have known what I was getting into

Well anyway, do it better and good luck in your
good luck in your dark colorful world...you will need it!

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