robby811 wrote on 10.07.2020 at 17:31: Edit to my post: I don't share the Manipulation suspicion either but it's funny when even in this thread many have already had the same experience...
Hi Robby.
If I now make a thread with the heading "In Casino X you can not win" or something like that.
I bet that there are just as many users and give me right.
10-14 usually but even with 16 I'm already at x3 and such jokes landed on 4-6 euros bet. With 8 play you get sometimes even more that is already clear what you win when the games are triggered
Crankyx3 wrote on 10.07.2020 at 18:27: You all talk about free games of x5-x50.
Up to what number of freegames do you guys always gamble like that?
With 8 free spins x5 is no wonder 🤣
I ALWAYS gamble high . Except the 1 question is 50 :50 or below 65%...
When I gamble I only accept from 14 fs unless I get audience or phone with 65% + .
Was alreadyonn on 20 fs this week that paid absolutely nothing . Only deadspins .
12 fs with 15x ! Who have paid only a scant 40x.
16 fs with 14 deadspins
18 fs with 5x
10fs with 10!!!! Deaspins
At the moment everything is there but nothing good .
Share these fails mostly on a discord server where by the way actually the last few weeks many have the same problems with the slot
Just this slot was extremely hyped on the discord server to which I belong. but currently the mood is absolutely changing....
Sure, there are isolated winners, but in one point, the majority agrees! For several weeks, the BTG slots run, grad millionaire significantly worse than ever before!
Coincidence ?
Grad the winning pictures of Millionaire /Bonanza that were often posted in the discord have really drastically decreased in recent weeks.
Sure there are feeding phases, but I dare say that with 100K + spins on Millionaire I can say that something is wrong
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Manipulation at BTG?
10th Jul. 2020, at 07:03 pm CEST#24
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upola wrote on 10/07/2020 at 18:40
Hi Robby.
If I now make a thread with the headline "In Casino X you can not win" or something like that.
I bet that just as many users open there and give me right.
Moin Aue ,
that can be good but the thread I would probably 0 attention given, because it's just so that it runs well in some casinos but somewhere else bad / worse as the weather today so tomorrow so.But I think here it is something special and actually BTG is also one of my favorite providers all my best wins I had almost only at BTG slots.And so many bad Bonuses at a stretch I had never before at Millionaire...
Jokerboy wrote on 10/07/2020 at 18:31
That's been said here a few times, that it doesn't matter how many games you have. Most probably have 10 - 14 FS.
Can who explain this to me in more detail, I mean that with many providers, the win in the free play trigger is already fixed was aware of me, only I thought with games like chilli or millionaire would be different because of the Gambel function.
If it is a priori fixed and I chilli say 2 € win is fixed but I gamble on 0, or vice versa 0 is fixed and I take directly free spins come then always 8 deadspins?
I hope someone understands my curious question
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10th Jul. 2020, at 07:33 pm CEST#26
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Crankyx3 wrote on 10.07.2020 at 19:12
Can who explain this to me more precisely, I mean that with many providers, the win at the free play trigger is already fixed I was aware, only I thought with games like chilli or millionaire would be different because of the Gambel function.
If it is a priori fixed and I chilli say 2 € win is fixed but I gamble on 0, or vice versa 0 is fixed and I take directly free spins come then always 8 deadspins?
I hope someone understands my curious question
For example, if I drop from 12 to 10 spins, I have often noticed that the slot always shows a slightly higher win in the first two spins after the FS. So the bottom line is that you will always get what the slot intended to give
It also often happens that if you mess up the free spins, that it throws 4 Scatters shortly after or goes in normally and gives you at least the 10 spins
Is just my experience with WWM
Jokerboy wrote on 10/07/2020 at 19:33
For example, when dropping from 12 to 10 spins, I've noticed more often that the slot always shows a slightly higher win in the first two spins after the FS. So the bottom line is that you will always get what the slot intended to give
It also often happens that if you mess up the free spins, that it throws 4 Scatters shortly after or goes in normally and gives you at least the 10 spins
This is just my experience with WWM
Yes, of course, this is called this back to back effect with the fast re-triggers.
That this effect occurs so often is surprising in a random based game (who believes).
But thanks for your explanation, but I didn't realize that with Chilli.
A player who always accepts 8 games must get so often 0€, because if you gambled high probably often goes out with 0 spins.
Are you sure that the win is not determined after you have gambled?
With BTG there are such problems since I know games from the Provider, is not a new insight for me. Would I think that it is manipulated then I would not have played it as long as I ran 2 months grotto bad in the slot. Free spins with 0x - 15x are the rule.
The Final Countdown also had a bug that had to be fixed, the provider simply saves on money, you can tell that always the same old symbols are used and that you still can not turn off the music individually despite the requests in Bonanza. The game cancellations are inconvenient, especially if you lose, you are quickly on the Manipulation track. But you would have lost even without them, what would it be then? A fair game?
No one really wants to believe how brutally dangerous gambling is, the industry does a very good job of making it look like you can always win. At times you fall into the misconception that you can get something out of it every day.
That's me already gone through the head of the often with the misconception but in the case now in connection with the abortions no longer. Sure, it also happens in feeding phases as if it were turned that is but n difference this time so exactly you can not reproduce that because always only some people are affected for a time as I am now. Sure is me also earlier times the connection torn off that was then just times so but daily several times always in the only felt good runs is already very very noticeable
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WithoutWings wrote on 10.07.2020 at 16:44 clock: I also know of many others that is so and that is certainly no longer a coincidence but pure rip-off you have no chance to win, I suspect that they use manipulated software in the meantime or what else there is for possibilities, and that is no matter in which casino because with me that occurs in all casinos and only at BTG. Warscheinlich make that always times for a week or 2 so that it does not come up because whenever the topic comes up here it runs afterwards the week again very clever ... I call that fraud and I do not imagine only because I lose times...
I've been saying for a long time that there will be an interface with each Provider so that you do not constantly win or lose in the long run. Rtp per manufacturer there is for sure
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Hi Robby.
If I now make a thread with the heading "In Casino X you can not win" or something like that.
I bet that there are just as many users and give me right.
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I ALWAYS gamble high . Except the 1 question is 50 :50 or below 65%...
When I gamble I only accept from 14 fs unless I get audience or phone with 65% + .
Was alreadyonn on 20 fs this week that paid absolutely nothing . Only deadspins .
12 fs with 15x ! Who have paid only a scant 40x.
16 fs with 14 deadspins
18 fs with 5x
10fs with 10!!!! Deaspins
At the moment everything is there but nothing good .
Share these fails mostly on a discord server where by the way actually the last few weeks many have the same problems with the slot
Just this slot was extremely hyped on the discord server to which I belong. but currently the mood is absolutely changing....
Sure, there are isolated winners, but in one point, the majority agrees! For several weeks, the BTG slots run, grad millionaire significantly worse than ever before!
Coincidence ?
Grad the winning pictures of Millionaire /Bonanza that were often posted in the discord have really drastically decreased in recent weeks.
Sure there are feeding phases, but I dare say that with 100K + spins on Millionaire I can say that something is wrong
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Moin Aue ,
that can be good but the thread I would probably 0 attention given, because it's just so that it runs well in some casinos but somewhere else bad / worse as the weather today so tomorrow so.But I think here it is something special and actually BTG is also one of my favorite providers all my best wins I had almost only at BTG slots.And so many bad Bonuses at a stretch I had never before at Millionaire...
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Can who explain this to me in more detail, I mean that with many providers, the win in the free play trigger is already fixed was aware of me, only I thought with games like chilli or millionaire would be different because of the Gambel function.
If it is a priori fixed and I chilli say 2 € win is fixed but I gamble on 0, or vice versa 0 is fixed and I take directly free spins come then always 8 deadspins?
I hope someone understands my curious question
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For example, if I drop from 12 to 10 spins, I have often noticed that the slot always shows a slightly higher win in the first two spins after the FS. So the bottom line is that you will always get what the slot intended to give
It also often happens that if you mess up the free spins, that it throws 4 Scatters shortly after or goes in normally and gives you at least the 10 spins
Is just my experience with WWM
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Yes, of course, this is called this back to back effect with the fast re-triggers.
That this effect occurs so often is surprising in a random based game (who believes).
But thanks for your explanation, but I didn't realize that with Chilli.
A player who always accepts 8 games must get so often 0€, because if you gambled high probably often goes out with 0 spins.
Are you sure that the win is not determined after you have gambled?
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The Final Countdown also had a bug that had to be fixed, the provider simply saves on money, you can tell that always the same old symbols are used and that you still can not turn off the music individually despite the requests in Bonanza. The game cancellations are inconvenient, especially if you lose, you are quickly on the Manipulation track. But you would have lost even without them, what would it be then? A fair game?
No one really wants to believe how brutally dangerous gambling is, the industry does a very good job of making it look like you can always win. At times you fall into the misconception that you can get something out of it every day.
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I've been saying for a long time that there will be an interface with each Provider so that you do not constantly win or lose in the long run. Rtp per manufacturer there is for sure
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