WithoutWings wrote on 10.07.2020 at 16:08: Somewhere I had seen this topic before but did not find it again
As some here know I play exclusively Who Whants to be a Millionaire
This week has shown me quite clearly that there is absolutely nothing right.
I have also often won larger amounts, mostly in casinos where I was clearly in the red
Of course, I have also lost a lot of money which is just normal
I am currently in 3 casinos in the plus and in these I play almost exclusively (Platincasino / Videoslots / Wildz).
Since recently and I know it's not just me so runs BTG catastrophic
What bothers me but especially and I have now almost hourly that I always when I have the feeling that it's running just kicked out of the game. And it's definitely not because of the internet. After that, the money runs straight down
I have noticed in recent months and I really play 5-6 std daily, that you usually win directly after the Deposit something as if you are pressed on a place on a server that begrudges the sum XY, only that I now directly lose the connection and felt immediately be set back to standard or losing mode
It feels a bit like you have 10 seats and under one is gold under 9 are rivets, you pay in and get mostly on one of the cheap chairs, but if you get the good one you get kicked out to get the other. Funny example but that's how it feels
The whole thing is not a Mimi I have lost a lot of money contribution even if it has now cost me real high four-figure sums this week
Meanwhile, it is clear to me personally that here is clearly manipulated especially if you have won more than spent
Maybe you have made similar experiences during the week?
Oh yes free spins were of course still a lot but there was the factor ... and I'm talking here of determined 5-10 times free spins daily always at x10-x50 maximum and even after that it went directly completely downhill
Please spare me with this is all just a feeling and so:) I know that you would like to have so and do not want to believe and always think oh vll it's all coincidence but Nene.... unfortunately there will never be evidence for it there is far too much money behind what Malta of course richly profited
So anger is out Spielespass is gone for now and trust too
So at Platincasino the slot is automatically restarted after 90min. No matter which manufacturer, no matter which game. For security reasons. I had criticized the time in the VIP chat because it Grade with high-volatility slots sometimes takes longer before a larger win appears. This will not be changed. Restarting the game also causes a new session ID where the RNG reacts differently again. Especially annoying if you have already invested a lot
In addition to the cancellations of BTG slots in recent weeks, I just think that their servers are overloaded. Probably the number of players has risen sharply in recent weeks, so that the capacity is no longer sufficient.
Begbie wrote on 11.07.2020 at 11:35am
So at Platincasino the slot is automatically restarted after 90min. No matter which manufacturer, no matter which game. For security reasons. I had criticized the time in the VIP chat because it Grade with high-volatility slots sometimes takes longer before a larger win appears. This will not be changed. Restarting the game also causes a new session ID where the RNG reacts differently again. Especially annoying if you have already invested a lot
In addition to the cancellations of BTG slots in recent weeks, I just think that their servers are overloaded. Probably the number of players has risen sharply in recent weeks, so that the capacity is no longer sufficient.
But theoretically every single spin should have the same probability to make a win. Regardless of how many spins have been made before or am I wrong?
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11th Jul. 2020, at 01:24 pm CEST#45
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It's almost funny how some users here exclude Manipulation in principle...as if OC based abroad were the most honorable companies on the planet
Even if here old-established gamblers describe the same technical problems come the always same standard answers a la "gambling also has eating phases" or "please no conspiracy theories".
One wonders, have they already become such junkies with a loss of reality or do they just have online casino shit on their hands?
Well, maybe both....
I don't completely rule out human intervention to maximize profits, but as long as there is no evidence for it, I find it simply brazen to speak of Manipulation or fraud.
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11th Jul. 2020, at 01:39 pm CEST#47
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Tribeholz wrote on 11.07.2020 at 13:24: It's almost funny how some users here exclude Manipulation in principle...as if OC based abroad were the most honorable companies on the planet
Even if here old-established gamblers describe the same technical problems come the always same standard answers a la "gambling also has eating phases" or "please no conspiracy theories".
One wonders, have they already become such junkies with a loss of reality or do they just have online casino shit on their hands?
Well, maybe both....
Someone seems to be very frustrated...
But you do not have to be abusive here! If you have a different opinion, it's totally fine. Everyone has the right to bring his experience here with and that is exactly what the TE is looking for with his contribution
If I were to confirm to you now that it's all a scam and everything is set up for you personally, would you never play again?
I win = I got`s on it, my play is right ---- Evidence? ---- Pictures here in the forum
Well, I can put thousands of pictures of deathspins here. Then I have the proof for cheating,
or do I see it wrong? That's your logic!
Of course I could not prove fraud. The operators are not stupid, and do not make a fat
Sign with "proof" to any thing. Nevertheless, everything speaks for it. Almost uncontrolled, they float in a
Country, which became known as a tax and Mafiaoase, their mischief. Anyone who does not at least consider manipulation
Considers, is in my opinion completely unworldly. There are still made with completely different things money,
which most people here don't even know about
Do you really believe that the backers of the casinos all have a clean slate?
Let a little bit of your gut feeling and logic flow in.
Every spin always has the same possibility to win or lose. So it is simply impossible,
that very many people only lose for a while. That's only possible if you can either regulate it, or if you can
or that it is programmed that way from the beginning. Luck and bad luck are almost impossible in this constellation
excluded in this constellation.
If your best buddy is doing badly, if you have the choice between two cars... etc., you let your
Gut feeling decide. You don't need any evidence for that. If there would be proof, and maybe they come
someday, the whole industry would explode.
Moreover, I believe in the interface that one does not win extremely high in 5 different casinos in a row
wins. Let's assume 80.000€ per casino.the whole times 5.why doesn't something like that happen? Purely from
Luck, and the number of players probably hardly a problem, if it really depends on chance, bad luck and luck
would depend. It does not happen
because there is a
Fuse. Such interfaces are called cartels, by the way, and are widespread in the economy, and almost
already normal. All the larger companies are networked with each other, and talk to each other.
Only the Casono far away in Malta and uncontrolled behaves absolutely error-free? Yes who believes
something like that?
Of course, you have to let someone win now and then, otherwise you lose credibility completely.
People are networked nowadays, and something like that would get around quickly. Just like this
spreads quickly. So this is anything but proof of the "honesty" of the casinos.
Anyone who defends casinos here a la fortune and misfortune has never seen an online casino from the inside. Has never
evaluated the data, and also has no overview of how much is really paid in and out. And only on information
of the casinos themselves, that everything is pure coincidence, they defend the casinos here. Normally, those should
get a bonus from each casino.
And the argument with the minimum 3% win, and that's enough, is nonsense. People always want more.
Whether I earn 10,000€ a month or 50,000€ makes a small difference! Especially when it is not
not noticeable, and I have an army, which dismisses everything with coincidence. Then I can sit back comfortably,
and let them do the work, and laugh in myself.
By the way, I realize that my contribution is again dismissed as Aluhutgeschätz and conspiracy.
So you do the casinos the biggest favor, that's clear to you!
But makes times....
If I had a casino, of course, everything would be absolutely dependent on chance, everything would be controlled, and you can
trust me, of course. And then there are people, who carry this message out into the world, and defend it to the blood
defend.
Well then, congratulations and thank you very much!
P.S. Before again quite clever hobby psychologist people come, I am not frustrated!
I have never lost much, and I earn more than enough.
I just try to approach the whole thing from the logical side!
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11th Jul. 2020, at 02:03 pm CEST#49
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Jokerboy wrote on 11.07.2020 at 13:39
Somebody seems to be very frustrated...
But there's no need to be abusive here! If you disagree it's totally fine. Everyone has the right to bring his experiences here and that is exactly what the TE is looking for with his contribution
If I were to confirm to you now that it's all a scam and everything is set up for you personally, would you never play again?
Who is being abusive here?
I have no one directly attacked, I can ask me questions as I want, you need to read before you scribble something like that
And yes correct - I play online rather rarely
Also because I believe the so called "bad losers" here rather than the chatterers
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11th Jul. 2020, at 02:19 pm CEST#50
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blackmamba wrote on 11.07.2020 at 13:52
So I can put you thousands of pictures of deathspins here. Then I have the proof of fraud,
or do I see it wrong? That's your logic!
Of course I could not prove fraud. The operators are not stupid, and do not make a fat
Sign with "proof" to any thing. Nevertheless, everything speaks for it. Almost uncontrolled, they float in a
Country, which became known as a tax and Mafiaoase, their mischief. Anyone who does not at least consider manipulation
Considers, is in my opinion completely unworldly. There are still made with completely different things money,
which most people here don't even know about
Do you really believe that the backers of the casinos all have a clean slate?
Let a little bit of your gut feeling and logic flow in.
Every spin always has the same possibility to win or lose. So it is simply impossible,
that very many people only lose for a while. That's only possible if you can either regulate it, or if you can
or that it is programmed that way from the beginning. Luck and bad luck are almost impossible in this constellation
excluded in this constellation.
If your best buddy is doing badly, if you have the choice between two cars... etc., you let your
Gut feeling decide. You don't need any evidence for that. If there would be proof, and maybe they come
someday, the whole industry would explode.
Moreover, I believe in the interface that one does not win extremely high in 5 different casinos in a row
wins. Let's assume 80.000€ per casino.the whole times 5.why doesn't something like that happen? Purely from
Luck, and the number of players probably hardly a problem, if it really depends on chance, bad luck and luck
would depend. It does not happen
because there is a
Fuse. Such interfaces are called cartels, by the way, and are widespread in the economy, and almost
already normal. All the larger companies are networked with each other, and talk to each other.
Only the Casono far away in Malta and uncontrolled behaves absolutely error-free? Yes who believes
something like that?
Of course, you have to let someone win now and then, otherwise you lose credibility completely.
People are networked nowadays, and something like that would get around quickly. Just like this
spreads quickly. So this is anything but proof of the "honesty" of the casinos.
Anyone who defends casinos here a la fortune and misfortune has never seen an online casino from the inside. Has never
evaluated the data, and also has no overview of how much is really paid in and out. And only on information
of the casinos themselves, that everything is pure coincidence, they defend the casinos here. Normally, those should
get a bonus from each casino.
And the argument with the minimum 3% win, and that's enough, is nonsense. People always want more.
Whether I earn 10,000€ a month or 50,000€ makes a small difference! Especially when it is not
not noticeable, and I have an army, which dismisses everything with coincidence. Then I can sit back comfortably,
and let them do the work, and laugh in myself.
By the way, I realize that my contribution is again dismissed as Aluhutgeschätz and conspiracy.
So you do the casinos the biggest favor, that's clear to you!
But makes times....
If I had a casino, of course, everything would be absolutely dependent on chance, everything would be controlled, and you can
trust me, of course. And then there are people, who carry this message out into the world, and defend it to the blood
defend.
Well then, congratulations and thank you very much!
P.S. Before again quite clever hobby psychologist people come, I am not frustrated!
I have never lost much, and I earn more than enough.
I just try to approach the whole thing from the logical side!
Ok, then explain to me the "interface" in the offline casino. It works exactly the same way! Once you win, you will always lose afterwards. Do you think the machine recognizes your money and now knows that you had 5 explorers on Book of Ra yesterday? Even offline there are phases where the machines throw and where they are closed and nothing runs
Another case: Today you win 6 in the lottery. Next week and for the next 20 years you win nothing. Where is the interface now? In this case, the chance is 1:140000000
What is the chance to get a win in the OC? And by win I mean win (so 2000 - 5000x or even more). Do I get such a win every day, because I play and Deposit my money and the box has to give something? I can deposit 10 000 EUR and go out with 0 EUR and I can deposit 50 EUR and go out with 100 000 EUR!
We can turn and turn it as we want. It changes nothing at the coincidence!
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So at Platincasino the slot is automatically restarted after 90min. No matter which manufacturer, no matter which game. For security reasons. I had criticized the time in the VIP chat because it Grade with high-volatility slots sometimes takes longer before a larger win appears. This will not be changed. Restarting the game also causes a new session ID where the RNG reacts differently again. Especially annoying if you have already invested a lot
In addition to the cancellations of BTG slots in recent weeks, I just think that their servers are overloaded. Probably the number of players has risen sharply in recent weeks, so that the capacity is no longer sufficient.
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Here's the deal. Freespin number gamblen brings purely nothing. The final win is the same.
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I can not imagine that Has someone deeper insight into the Marterie?
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But theoretically every single spin should have the same probability to make a win. Regardless of how many spins have been made before or am I wrong?
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Even if here old-established gamblers describe the same technical problems come the always same standard answers a la "gambling also has eating phases" or "please no conspiracy theories".
One wonders, have they already become such junkies with a loss of reality or do they just have online casino shit on their hands?
Well, maybe both....
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Someone seems to be very frustrated...
But you do not have to be abusive here! If you have a different opinion, it's totally fine. Everyone has the right to bring his experience here with and that is exactly what the TE is looking for with his contribution
If I were to confirm to you now that it's all a scam and everything is set up for you personally, would you never play again?
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Well, I can put thousands of pictures of deathspins here. Then I have the proof for cheating,
or do I see it wrong? That's your logic!
Of course I could not prove fraud. The operators are not stupid, and do not make a fat
Sign with "proof" to any thing. Nevertheless, everything speaks for it. Almost uncontrolled, they float in a
Country, which became known as a tax and Mafiaoase, their mischief. Anyone who does not at least consider manipulation
Considers, is in my opinion completely unworldly. There are still made with completely different things money,
which most people here don't even know about
Do you really believe that the backers of the casinos all have a clean slate?
Let a little bit of your gut feeling and logic flow in.
Every spin always has the same possibility to win or lose. So it is simply impossible,
that very many people only lose for a while. That's only possible if you can either regulate it, or if you can
or that it is programmed that way from the beginning. Luck and bad luck are almost impossible in this constellation
excluded in this constellation.
If your best buddy is doing badly, if you have the choice between two cars... etc., you let your
Gut feeling decide. You don't need any evidence for that. If there would be proof, and maybe they come
someday, the whole industry would explode.
Moreover, I believe in the interface that one does not win extremely high in 5 different casinos in a row
wins. Let's assume 80.000€ per casino.the whole times 5.why doesn't something like that happen? Purely from
Luck, and the number of players probably hardly a problem, if it really depends on chance, bad luck and luck
would depend. It does not happen
because there is a
Fuse. Such interfaces are called cartels, by the way, and are widespread in the economy, and almost
already normal. All the larger companies are networked with each other, and talk to each other.
Only the Casono far away in Malta and uncontrolled behaves absolutely error-free? Yes who believes
something like that?
Of course, you have to let someone win now and then, otherwise you lose credibility completely.
People are networked nowadays, and something like that would get around quickly. Just like this
spreads quickly. So this is anything but proof of the "honesty" of the casinos.
Anyone who defends casinos here a la fortune and misfortune has never seen an online casino from the inside. Has never
evaluated the data, and also has no overview of how much is really paid in and out. And only on information
of the casinos themselves, that everything is pure coincidence, they defend the casinos here. Normally, those should
get a bonus from each casino.
And the argument with the minimum 3% win, and that's enough, is nonsense. People always want more.
Whether I earn 10,000€ a month or 50,000€ makes a small difference! Especially when it is not
not noticeable, and I have an army, which dismisses everything with coincidence. Then I can sit back comfortably,
and let them do the work, and laugh in myself.
By the way, I realize that my contribution is again dismissed as Aluhutgeschätz and conspiracy.
So you do the casinos the biggest favor, that's clear to you!
But makes times....
If I had a casino, of course, everything would be absolutely dependent on chance, everything would be controlled, and you can
trust me, of course. And then there are people, who carry this message out into the world, and defend it to the blood
defend.
Well then, congratulations and thank you very much!
P.S. Before again quite clever hobby psychologist people come, I am not frustrated!
I have never lost much, and I earn more than enough.
I just try to approach the whole thing from the logical side!
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Who is being abusive here?
I have no one directly attacked, I can ask me questions as I want, you need to read before you scribble something like that
And yes correct - I play online rather rarely
Also because I believe the so called "bad losers" here rather than the chatterers
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Ok, then explain to me the "interface" in the offline casino. It works exactly the same way! Once you win, you will always lose afterwards. Do you think the machine recognizes your money and now knows that you had 5 explorers on Book of Ra yesterday? Even offline there are phases where the machines throw and where they are closed and nothing runs
Another case: Today you win 6 in the lottery. Next week and for the next 20 years you win nothing. Where is the interface now? In this case, the chance is 1:140000000
What is the chance to get a win in the OC? And by win I mean win (so 2000 - 5000x or even more). Do I get such a win every day, because I play and Deposit my money and the box has to give something? I can deposit 10 000 EUR and go out with 0 EUR and I can deposit 50 EUR and go out with 100 000 EUR!
We can turn and turn it as we want. It changes nothing at the coincidence!
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