Latino wrote on 27.11.2018 at 22:01: The 2 same winning pictures is not as critical as it is perceived by the general public. Predefined patterns are much easier to handle programmatically than if you just like Jammin Jars actually run the whole thing at random
In the case of pure randomness, this could accumulate a profit sum that actually drives the Provider into ruin - everyone has surely seen how jars with a high multi that stay together pay. There are actually several ways to solve the problem, but the manufacturer has just built this variant. No big deal.
And this borders on fraud, it is suggested what awesome multipliers in the game is possible.
Nowhere does it say that the winning pictures are only predetermined or selected, but it explicitly says that it "rotates" randomly.
Exactly the same as in the new BTG slot "wer wird millionär"
It is not possible to get at the maxbet of 10 € currently at the 1 million € Jackpot at all.
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Latino wrote on 27.11.2018 at 22:01: The 2 same winning pictures is not as critical as it is perceived by the general public. Predefined patterns are much easier to handle programmatically than if you just like Jammin Jars actually run the whole thing at random
In case of pure randomness, this could accumulate a profit sum that actually drives the Provider into bankruptcy - everyone has surely seen how jars with high multi that stay together pay. There are actually several ways to solve the problem, but the manufacturer has just built this variant. No big deal.
Drive the provider to ruin? ... . He can only do that himself, but not because of too high wins, which are paid by the casino
Of course, the game is programmed in such a way that the casino does not go bankrupt because of too high wins. This misconception that it would be a scam because an endless win Multiplier is suggested is anyway created in the dreams of gamblers, but far from realistic...
Even with BTG slots there is a limit and more than x10,000-x20,000 has never appeared anywhere, this is already programmed coincidence or not, it can not go endlessly upwards, the casinos would not take the games in.
And this borders on fraud, it suggests what awesome multipliers are possible in the game.
Nowhere does it say that the winning pictures are only predetermined or selected, but it explicitly says that it "rotates" randomly.
Tiki Tumble even advertises that the achievable Multiplier is infinite, so there is no suggestion here.
But in the special case of Jammin Jars you are right. In the game info it says that the jars move randomly to a free adjacent place. This is clearly refuted by the video... the chance that the jars move randomly with 2 players in the video shown is not as stated by the manufacturer 1:1.6Mio (is now so from the head, please correct if wrong) - the chance is so small that it can be filed under impossible
But what I really wanted to get at is the fact that it can't be left to chance what the slot ejects. Whether the frontend randomly assembles the Win factor delivered by the server or not is irrelevant for you as the "end customer"
But that the customer is deceived about his chance with Jammin Jars I agree
@Unibeliver:
First of all : I have not seen any contract between a casino and a Provider!
However, I rely on my experience in the software field and there assurances as well as warranty cases are clearly defined. The casino will always refer to a software error in such a case because a company does not protect itself against such a case I think is impossible
In turn, a software developer guarantees that extreme cases can not occur through his program.If he has made a programming error, for example, this ensures the assumption of liability in a contractually defined framework.In this case, the provider is actually liable.
But of course the game is programmed in this way
Nothing else I wanted to express and the fact that it plays for the end user no role in which form this win is displayed.
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Don't talk to me about contracts or do you get your payouts from the Provider?....
We are not talking about extreme cases, of course you could, but about the normal case. The wins, apart from provider JPs, are always paid out by the casino.
Yes, in case of errors, according to the description of each game no matter from which manufacturer you always look through the fingers, there is no liability for the player 😉
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Now don't give me contracts or do you get your payouts from the Provider?
Of course there are contracts between casino and provider. You do not want to seriously deny that, right?
We are not talking about extreme cases
So a Jammin Jars that determines the win with real coincidence will sooner or later produce such an extreme case. No operator who is in his right mind will bring such a thing on board without securing himself
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28th Nov. 2018, at 10:48 pm CET#286
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@Latino
Of course there are contracts between casino and provider. You don't want to deny that seriously, do you ?
We write past each other or you do not know what I mean...it was about who makes the payout and can go broke...the Provider certainly not.
So a Jammin Jars with real coincidence the win determined will produce sooner or later such an extreme case. Such a thing gets no operator in the boat that is sane without securing.
Also here we write past each other....it is clear nevertheless that this play cannot run with coincidence.
Hello, but if an extreme case occurs, no one needs to be liable, because the casino can say that it was a system error. Think recently Happy Halloween on 5 euros
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There is no longer a "Casino" category on Twitch.
Instead, there are now "Slots" "Real Money Games". The normal Poker category is still there.
It was probably only a matter of time when you saw how many streams with viewbots and chatbots flooded the category. I'm curious if this development will continue in the slots category.
Hmm see there just Casinodad - goes there with the bots directly further ...
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Latino wrote on 12/16/2018 at 09:46: I guess it was only a matter of time seeing how many streams with viewbots and chatbots flooded the category. Am curious if this development will continue in the slots category.
Hmm see there just Casinodad - goes there with the bots directly further ...
Bots use many streamers, the category probably does not play a big role.
Why the casino category was removed I do not know yet. However, it is possible to take e.g. slots as a category.
That's it for casinos and streamers
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And this borders on fraud, it is suggested what awesome multipliers in the game is possible.
Nowhere does it say that the winning pictures are only predetermined or selected, but it explicitly says that it "rotates" randomly.
Exactly the same as in the new BTG slot "wer wird millionär"
It is not possible to get at the maxbet of 10 € currently at the 1 million € Jackpot at all.
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That's it for casinos and streamers
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Drive the provider to ruin? ... . He can only do that himself, but not because of too high wins, which are paid by the casino
Of course, the game is programmed in such a way that the casino does not go bankrupt because of too high wins. This misconception that it would be a scam because an endless win Multiplier is suggested is anyway created in the dreams of gamblers, but far from realistic...
Even with BTG slots there is a limit and more than x10,000-x20,000 has never appeared anywhere, this is already programmed coincidence or not, it can not go endlessly upwards, the casinos would not take the games in.
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@Tropper:
Tiki Tumble even advertises that the achievable Multiplier is infinite, so there is no suggestion here.
But in the special case of Jammin Jars you are right. In the game info it says that the jars move randomly to a free adjacent place. This is clearly refuted by the video... the chance that the jars move randomly with 2 players in the video shown is not as stated by the manufacturer 1:1.6Mio (is now so from the head, please correct if wrong) - the chance is so small that it can be filed under impossible
But what I really wanted to get at is the fact that it can't be left to chance what the slot ejects. Whether the frontend randomly assembles the Win factor delivered by the server or not is irrelevant for you as the "end customer"
But that the customer is deceived about his chance with Jammin Jars I agree
@Unibeliver:
First of all : I have not seen any contract between a casino and a Provider!
However, I rely on my experience in the software field and there assurances as well as warranty cases are clearly defined. The casino will always refer to a software error in such a case because a company does not protect itself against such a case I think is impossible
In turn, a software developer guarantees that extreme cases can not occur through his program.If he has made a programming error, for example, this ensures the assumption of liability in a contractually defined framework.In this case, the provider is actually liable.
Nothing else I wanted to express and the fact that it plays for the end user no role in which form this win is displayed.
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Don't talk to me about contracts or do you get your payouts from the Provider?....
We are not talking about extreme cases, of course you could, but about the normal case. The wins, apart from provider JPs, are always paid out by the casino.
Yes, in case of errors, according to the description of each game no matter from which manufacturer you always look through the fingers, there is no liability for the player 😉
Sorry Edit....from mobile writing can not do anything...
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Of course there are contracts between casino and provider. You do not want to seriously deny that, right?
So a Jammin Jars that determines the win with real coincidence will sooner or later produce such an extreme case. No operator who is in his right mind will bring such a thing on board without securing himself
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We write past each other or you do not know what I mean...it was about who makes the payout and can go broke...the Provider certainly not.
Also here we write past each other....it is clear nevertheless that this play cannot run with coincidence.
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Instead, there are now "Slots" "Real Money Games". The normal Poker category is still there.
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Hmm see there just Casinodad - goes there with the bots directly further ...
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Bots use many streamers, the category probably does not play a big role.
Why the casino category was removed I do not know yet. However, it is possible to take e.g. slots as a category.
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