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Online Casinos in general: Where to complain about German regulatory authority (Page 7)

Topic created on 15th Dec. 2020 | Page: 7 of 11 | Answers: 105 | Views: 19,135
Katharina2
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

19th Dec. 2020, at 12:13 pm CET#63
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Hidaruma wrote on 12/19/2020 at 09:44 AM

Which vendor would that be? Would like to check it out as well.

*ichauchwissenmöchte*

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x00NY
Elite

Where to complain about German regulatory authority

19th Dec. 2020, at 12:31 pm CET#64
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Catherine2 wrote on 12/19/2020 at 12:13 PM
*ichauchwissenmöchte*

i hope they have a /de or .de site, not that you will be tempted to gamble illegally...

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Falko
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

19th Dec. 2020, at 03:01 pm CET#65
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Hidaruma wrote on 12/19/2020 at 09:44 AM

Which vendor would that be? Would like to check it out as well.

Unicrn is the name of the worshipper. But it's more for people who like to bet on sports. As for the slots selection, this Provider has not much to offer think only 2 providers, but Live Casino as Roulette and so there is also.

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gamble1
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 05:37 am CET#67
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Matthlign wrote on 12/18/2020 at 5:44 pm
Let's address legislation & policy first then

The Maltese licenses so far are compliant with EU legislation and as far as I remember we are part of the EU
Freedom of services is one of the fundamental freedoms of the European Single Market and thus all casino's that have a license from Malta should in principle be allowed to offer their services here
With that I have not played as you write it: "..predominantly abroad..freely after other countries other customs",
but online at a Provider, with a license from another member state of the EU and compliant with EU legislation

Furthermore, I am not saying that the gambling market should not be regulated at all, but why are the existing regulations from Malta not sufficient if they are in conformity with EU law?

Oh yes, exactly, because of the Player protection
Germany, or rather Germany's politicians, are simply so worried about the "little man" that they see a need for action
Of course, the whole thing has nothing to do with the fact that they have been warned several times by the EU regarding their monopolies in the form of state-run casinos and lotteries (among other things, in relation to the prohibition of European providers to advertise their casinos in Germany, but to advertise casinos and lotteries themselves)
So it's purely about player protection, not about protecting their monopolies, logically.

Stop. One step back

If this is about player protection, why aren't casinos and lotteries regulated equally?
Why can I gamble in a casino in one evening house & yard but may in online "gambling houses" only a maximum of 1000 € Deposit and play with a maximum stake of 1 € and why may I play in an online "gambling house" or even normal stationary gambling house, no Roulette?
Couldn't this have something to do with the casino monopoly or the fact that Germany wants to protect it?
No, that can not be or?

Times completely honestly, would it here around the player protection go, one could have different and/or individual measures meet
Basically, wouldn't a deposit limit have been enough?

If it was really about player protection, if they had simply put the deposit limit in front of all of us, I would have said, well, in order to protect others, I'll accept this intrusion into my private life and my freedom of choice
I am very much in a position to look beyond the end of my nose and thus also in a position to realize that gambling can be very dangerous for some people and has already brought misfortune to a number of people and thus also to some extent to entire families

But what is happening here is nothing other than the fact that politics wants to tell us a little fairy tale about gambling protection and that is not okay

You may see the whole thing differently, maybe you just don't see the connections between the regulations and the German monopolies, maybe you don't want to see them, or maybe you think the whole thing is just silly conspiracy theories on my part
No matter what it is I respect your opinion and yet I can not understand some of your statements or some are simply fundamentally wrong
Be that as it may, you have your opinion, I have mine, we both will probably rather not go, no matter how long we were discussing it

That's ok, we do not have to but save you comments like that some here can not see beyond the edge of the plate, just because they are of a different opinion as you and or recognize that something is going wrong here
Just as comments like that some here are oh so selfish, just because they denounce that you could have regulated it differently
The only thing that is not justified here are your statements in relation to people like me who see things differently than you.

On the topics such as other hobbies that are also regulated, etc. I do not go in, would not be purposeful and would drag the text here only further into the length

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The deposit limit would have been sufficient, but the very fact that the law may provide for preferential treatment of certain groups of people by increasing the deposit limit through a decision-making system adapted to their assets shows that this cannot be about player protection

Why can it not ? Because this 1 € cap still remains

One tries to make thus purposefully everything kaputt which is in private hand so it was made with the gaming halls with Tr.4 and now with Tr.5 and now also on-line

The casinos are not taken into account which is a clear contradiction to player protection because Online Casinos offer limits that a casino does not even have so why "regulate to protect players" something that currently already has a better system to protect the people than a casino

The only thing I can do in a casino is to get completely blocked and many people don't dare to take this step in OC's you can say I only want to lose 400 € or only 1 € a month and you can do this without worrying about what other people think when they see you filling out a form

A total bogus argument as already with the arcades but no court understands it the can make what they want and earn a golden nose

I tell you if there would be a court that decides also casinos are affected by it would be all the same very quickly away from the window

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Katharina2
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 10:59 am CET#68
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Falko wrote on 19.12.2020 at 15:01
Unicrn is the name of the worshipper. Is but rather what for people who also like to bet on sports. As for the slots selection, this Provider has not much to offer think only 2 providers, but Live Casino as Roulette and so there is also

Thanks...... have found some more, very interesting. I am currently in the UK.

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Katharina2
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 11:10 am CET#69
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Seniorfips wrote on 12/19/2020 at 12:31 PM
i hope they have a /de or .de site, not that you will be tempted to gamble illegally...

Says who ? Since when is it illegal to get on planes and fly to USA
fly ? Besides, we are not in China where there is a real digital Chinese
Wall or you take Macau or your own 4 walls. Do you have
a source, for your statement ? But please do not, Germany has said and
Laws. They can be right, as far as the EU agrees in all points, there
no one has anything against it, only they apply to Germany and not for another
EU country and certainly not for states outside the EU.

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u****n

Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 11:15 am CET#70
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Catherine2 wrote on 20/12/2020 at 11:10 am
Says who ? Since when is it forbidden to get on planes and fly to USA
fly ? Besides, we are not in China where there is a real digital Chinese
Wall prevails or you take Macau or your own 4 walls. Do you have
a source, for your statement ? But please do not, Germany has said and
Laws. They can be right, as far as the EU agrees in all points, there
no one has anything against it, only they apply to Germany and not for another
EU country and certainly not for states outside the EU.

And as always you understand only station

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x00NY
Elite

Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 01:36 pm CET#71
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unicorn wrote on 12/20/20 at 11:15 AM
And as always you only understand station

I guess the straitjacket wasn't strapped tight enough....

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Anonym

Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 03:13 pm CET#72
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gamble1 wrote on 20.12.2020 at 05:37
Exactly so it is the Deposit limit would have been enough but already alone the fact that in the law is possibly intended to favor individual groups of people by increasing the deposit limit through a decision system adapted to the assets shows that it can not be about Player protection here

Why can it not ? Because this 1 € cap still remains

One tries to make thus purposefully everything kaputt which is in private hand so it was made with the gaming halls with Tr.4 and now with Tr.5 and now also on-line

The casinos are not taken into account which is a clear contradiction to player protection because Online Casinos offer limits that a casino does not even have so why "regulate to protect players" something that currently already has a better system to protect the people than a casino

The only thing I can do in a casino is to get completely blocked and many people don't dare to take this step in OC's you can say I only want to lose 400 € or only 1 € a month and you can do this without worrying about what other people think when they see you filling out a form

A total bogus argument as already with the arcades but no court understands it the can make what they want and earn a golden nose

I tell you if there would be a court that decides also casinos are affected by it would be all the same very quickly away from the window

It is the same, if a court would decide so and say that casinos would have to be subjected to the same regulations, the (possibly) coming law would be very quickly no longer an issue and or be completely revised
A deposit limit to ensure better player protection I could understand as a measure of the state
But everything that is currently happening simply has nothing to do with it, as you have already written, the state is trying to systematically destroy everything that is in private hands.
If you then consider that the EU has warned Germany several times, it can clearly only be about protecting its monopolies, not the players

If the law in its current form will be passed in 2021 (I am still of the opinion that it will not be so) one can only hope that the industry will quickly find creative solutions to circumvent the whole

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Katharina2
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Where to complain about German regulatory authority

20th Dec. 2020, at 03:23 pm CET#73
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Aha you two....@seniorenfips and unicorn, as always just embarrassing and
'trollish on tour'. Whenever a word even hinting at 'catherine'
appears. I know you guys are not my 'fans' *lol* and wish for everything but
not that, but Seniorenfips@, you didn't answer my question the other one doesn't
not at all on it and shows once again, your only hot air and preferably
discriminate from low motives'. To the topic no factual
Contributions. So again the question: who says that it is illegal to visit outside the EU an
OC outside the EU ? And please immediately the source reference to it.
This would not only interest me, but all users and countries outside the EU
anyway.

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