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Online Casinos in general: Money back because of gambling law (Page 13)

Topic created on 16th May. 2023 | Page: 13 of 15 | Answers: 211 | Views: 31,837
hustlehoff
Expert

CharlyQ wrote on 06/19/2023 at 19:39: Hello Kaki81 and also hello to the others here.

Now I finally found here the topic that is burning my interest. I too will try to recover at least a large part of my gambling losses by suing the online casino.

Problem is, however, that I no longer have all payment receipts and proof of deposits and withdrawals are therefore missing for the most part.

Now my question is. Do Online Casinos have to store the game history and thus also have a record of deposits and withdrawals?
If so, will they also give out this data if I no longer have my player name and my access data at some casinos, because I had locked myself there. Last but not least, the casinos know that they can be sued and will possibly refuse the release of this data.

From a temporal point of view, almost all casinos are legally still to prosecute because these 10 years statute of limitations are not yet around.

So I will only have a chance if I do not have to prove all account statements and deposits to casinos. If the lawyers insist on all proofs and account statements etc. then I have no chance. Many deposits were made via Paysafecard and of course I have not kept all of them.

In total, my gambling at all possible casinos amounts to about not quite 100,000 euros. Since I had also won well with under it will possibly also be a little less money.

So I should really get back 60 percent of it, then that would be a fortune. Only from one casino I have the entire game history including the Deposit and withdrawal data: Vulkan Vegas Casino.

I played almost exclusively roulette.


Thank you for your answers

You can't do anything against Curacao licensed casinos like Vulkan Vegas .... The process financiers don't even accept that. With well-known MGA casinos you might have chances.

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mowolum
Elite

CharlyQ wrote on 06/19/2023 at 19:39: Hello Kaki81 and also hello to the others here.

Now I finally found here the topic that is burning my interest. I too will try to recover at least a large part of my gambling losses by suing the online casino.

Problem is, however, that I no longer have all payment receipts and proof of deposits and withdrawals are therefore missing for the most part.

Now my question is. Do Online Casinos have to store the game history and thus also have a record of deposits and withdrawals?
If so, will they also give out this data if I no longer have my player name and my access data at some casinos, because I had locked myself there. Last but not least, the casinos know that they can be sued and will possibly refuse the release of this data.

From a temporal point of view, almost all casinos are legally still to prosecute because these 10 years statute of limitations are not yet around.

So I will only have a chance if I do not have to prove all account statements and deposits to casinos. If the lawyers insist on all proofs and account statements etc. then I have no chance. Many deposits were made via Paysafecard and of course I have not kept all of them.

In total, my gambling at all possible casinos amounts to about not quite 100,000 euros. Since I had also won well with under it will possibly also be a little less money.

So I should really get back 60 percent of it, then that would be a fortune. Only from one casino I have the entire game history including the Deposit and withdrawal data: Vulkan Vegas Casino.

I played almost exclusively roulette.


Thank you for your answers

If you turn back a few pages, you will actually find many answers.

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moralischverwerflich
Expert
Times an update for those who are interested:

1. Casino = out-of-court settlement, got the money.
2. Casino = court date at the beginning of December (plus point is already on our side, since a settlement offer was made, which was however utopian low and thus quasi as a Concession is evaluated)
3. Casino (2 pieces / same provider) payment request from the court can not be delivered, because at the addresses nothing is to be found and according to the lawyer felt daily the address is changed.

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hustlehoff
Expert
3. Casino (2 pieces/same provider) payment request from the court cannot be served because nothing can be found at the addresses and according to the lawyer the address is changed on a daily basis.

lol xD

Edit by Julian: font color was adjusted

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Hidaruma
Top Member
Milo1 wrote on 08/14/2023 at 12:13 PM: Times an update for those who care:

1. Casino = out of court settlement, got coal.
2. Casino = court date in early December (plus point is already on our side, since a settlement offer was made, which was however utopian low and thus is quasi considered a concession)
3. Casino (2 pieces/same provider) Payment request from the court cannot be delivered, since nothing can be found at the addresses and according to the lawyer, the address is changed on a daily basis.

And yet you continue to upload winning videos?:D


Interesting. The last even on Stake. You should be reported.

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Hidaruma wrote on 08/14/2023 at 13:28:
And yet you continue to upload winning videos?:D


Interesting. The last one even on Stake. You should be reported.

😂 On what grounds?

Because I reclaimed coal and play somewhere else?
Do you know where I stay while I play? You play yourself at Stake.... So don't give me that

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gamble1
Legend

Milo1 wrote on 08/14/2023 at 2:47 PM:

😂 with what justification?

Because I reclaimed coal and play somewhere else?
Do you know where I'm staying while I'm playing? You play yourself at Stake.... So don't give me that

Without judging you and others I think he means because you have claimed the money back and play it again somewhere else and this is actually cheating

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Hidaruma
Top Member
Milo1 wrote on 08/14/2023 at 2:47 PM:

😂 with what justification?

Because I reclaimed coal and play somewhere else?
Do you know where I'm staying while I'm playing? You play yourself at Stake.... So don't give me that

I do. However, I don't reclaim my losses to put them back somewhere else. That is more than brazen. If you are pathologically addicted to gambling and have lost all control, you should be "entitled" to get your losses back and only then.

The post here is called: Online casinos in general: Money back because of gambling law.
People here claim not to have known that many a casino did not operate legally (*wink*). This pretext you have certainly also advanced.
And then to go there and Deposit the recovered coals at Stake, is already shit-repentant.

I'm not a fan of the lawsuits that you sometimes read about here, but I would make an exception for something like this.





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upola
Legend

Milo1 wrote on 08/14/2023 at 2:47 PM:

😂 with what justification?

Because I reclaimed coal and play somewhere else?
Do you know where I am staying while I am playing? You play yourself at Stake.... So don't give me that

And when all the money is gambled away again, do you try to get the money back?

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Hidaruma wrote on 08/14/2023 at 15:04:
I do. However, I don't recoup my losses to then butter them back in somewhere else. That is beyond brazen. If you are pathologically addicted to gambling and have lost all control, you should be "entitled" to recoup your losses and only then.

The post here is called: Online casinos in general: Money back because of gambling law.
People here claim not to have known that many a casino did not operate legally (*wink*). This pretext you have certainly also advanced.
And then to go there and Deposit the recovered coals at Stake, is already shit-repentant.

I'm not a fan of the lawsuits that you sometimes read about here, but I would make an exception for something like this.






1. I certainly don't need to sue for coal to get it somewhere else. Since I am not dependent on it. Life has been good to me lately, and without wanting to talk myself up or (as it is called) the "normal worker shift / normal earner have now long left behind me and earn quite rarely below a 3 times average salary. Therefore, this statement definitely does not apply to me.

2. The statement that only gambling addicts should do it, I also support in part, but you can assume that 90% of them will gamble it away again. That's why I'm a bit split in my opinion.
I was long also no friend of it, however as I have already mentioned, if one the coal is held quasi before the nose, one grasps nevertheless to. And the MGA booths, not all but very many, have screwed us but also for years. Why not turn the tables?
Morals or not, legal illegal Senegal doesn't give a shit.
From the first payout I financed 2 short vacations without having to go to the savings account ... and I can sleep very well with it.
The casino operator who cheated the German player out of money, still sleeps 3 times better..

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Falko
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That would then mean that Malta has not yet passed the law, where it wants to put a stop to all the plaintiffs who sue for losses from casinos with an MGA license ? Was published but a few weeks ago here an article about it.

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

upola wrote on 08/14/2023 at 15:25:

And when all the dough is gambled away again, do you try to get the money back?

Inform yourself in the matter times something and follow certain statements here. Then you would know that it is almost impossible to do something like that in Curacao booths. I have been paying nothing into MGA shops for ages.

Ergo, it should be understood that it is not my intention to do it again to try it another time. But nobody seems to realize that here.
Here only the moral club is unpacked instead of times written to understand and discuss sensibly

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moralischverwerflich
Expert

Falko wrote on 14.08.2023 at 15:31 clock: That would then mean that Malta has not yet passed the law, where it wants to push a bar in front of all plaintiffs who sue for losses of casinos with an MGA license ? Was published but a few weeks ago here an article about it.

Not yet, but will probably come so.

But that will probably run on it then, that it does not apply to ongoing proceedings then at the time of the entry into force of this law already exist. So at least the statement of the law firm where I am (with hand held out, because not yet officially)

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upola
Legend

morally reprehensible wrote on 08/14/2023 at 15:37:

Inform yourself a little bit in the matter and follow certain statements here. Then you would know that it is almost impossible to do something like that in Curacao booths. In MGA booths I pay for ages nothing more.

Ergo, it should be understood that it is not my intention to do it again to try it another time. But nobody seems to realize that here.
Here only the moral club is unpacked instead of times to understand written and to discuss reasonably

Drive down a little bit you clown.I have only asked a question.

So don't tell me about reading and understanding, just stick to it yourself.

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moralischverwerflich
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upola wrote on 08/14/2023 at 17:08:

Take it down a notch you clown.I was merely asking a question.

So don't tell me about reading and understanding,first stick to it yourself.

Even if it was only "clown", I approached you in comparable form? So please.


And if you had read everything, this question would have been superfluous.

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