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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 15:17
No. Why should the casino comply with German laws, although these offers are not explicitly aimed at Germans? Here is an excerpt from the terms and conditions of Pino (N1).
The terms and conditions are governed by Maltese law. Even if versions of these terms and conditions are available in other languages, the English language version is always binding.
I also find no contradiction in the consumer protection law
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/vschdg/BJNR336710006.html
Many internationally active companies offer their services on the Internet, also to German customers. In doing so, they do not always use German-language general terms and conditions (GTC), but rather GTC in another language, e.g. English.
The subject of a ruling by the Berlin Appellate Court (AZ 5 U 156/14) was a lawsuit filed by the Federation of German Consumer Organizations (vzbv) against the Facebook subsidiary WhatsApp, which had only offered the GTC in English on its German-language website.
The Court of Appeal ruled that companies must also provide their terms and conditions in German on German-language websites. A consumer does not have to expect to encounter foreign-language GTCs with an "extensive, complex set of rules of very, very many clauses". Despite the prevalence of everyday English in Germany, according to the Kammergericht, a consumer cannot be expected to understand "legal, contractual and generally commercial English". If the GTC are not translated into German, all clauses are "intransparent and unfairly disadvantageous" and therefore invalid.
This ruling creates clarity for entrepreneurs and companies, including German ones, that offer services on the German market: GTCs are only effective vis-à-vis consumers if they are written in German.
The GTC must be in German, and are also binding there. That only English counts is an invention
of the casinos and complete nonsense.
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Royal777 wrote on 06/16/2022 at 5:26 pm
This is not embezzlement. When you register you accept the terms and conditions, it's that simple
Personally, this happened to me in the past in the gambling houses. If I continue playing with a balance of 900"€" and win another 500€, then the remaining 400€ are forfeited. You can't have more than 1000€ / 10,000 points on your points balance. Not all games had AG at that time
You have to accept that!
T&C that are not compliant, I can accept as I want, they still do not count.
According to your legal opinion, they can probably write anything in. Once a check mark is set,
they can buy with my credit card.
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16th Jun. 2022, at 08:44 pm CEST#327
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Royal777 wrote on 06/16/2022 at 5:26 pm
This is not embezzlement. When you register you accept the terms and conditions, it's that simple
Personally it happened to me in the past in the gambling houses. If I continue playing with a balance of 900"€" and win another 500€, then the remaining 400€ are forfeited. You can't have more than 1000€ / 10,000 points on your points balance. Not all games had AG at that time
You have to accept that!
It's embezzlement and you don't have to accept it either .
Or maybe you have to accept it in Malta casinos because this mafia authority MGA has no problem with it.
But with this you have admitted that the MGA license is completely worthless
Such terms and conditions would be immoral in most countries and therefore invalid.
You have a completely wrong legal view if you believe that everything in AGB is also binding for customers.
The casinos I mentioned rightly have a very bad reputation.
I just do not understand what you must be for a person if you defend such dubious business practices.
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16th Jun. 2022, at 09:19 pm CEST#328
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Krabbenburger wrote on 16.06.2022 at 20:44:
I just do not understand what kind of person you must be if you defend such dubious business practices .
Type... I criticize but this procedure of the casinos, yet it is not Mafiöse structures...
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Krabbenburger wrote on 16.06.2022 at 12:46 pm:
Are there any reports that players have not received their money or unfair T&Cs ?
As long as a casino pays out, has decent T&Cs and does not use fake games and the games run with high RTP settings the license is absolutely insignificant to me
It's like talking to a wall.
The casino Wizary has no license. Consequently, it does not matter at all what is written in the T&Cs. How do you even think to question the terms and conditions, although the casino has no license . How does the statement come about that the casino could not have fake slots ?
Without exception, all unlicensed casinos are necessarily pirated!
Write me a private message. I offer you real money for 100 euros. Please don't let the imprint Uncle Pennybag blind you, it's real, I promise.
Auhur!
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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 21:19
Like talking to a wall.
The casino Wizary has no license. Consequently, it does not matter at all what is written in the T&Cs. How do you even think to question the T&Cs, although the casino has no license . How does the statement come about that the casino could not have fake slots ?
Without exception, all unlicensed casinos are necessarily pirated!
Write me a private message. I offer you real money for 100 euros. Please don't let the imprint Uncle Pennybag blind you, it's real, I promise.
Auhur!
You can't judge at all from Germany whether it might not be mafia structures.
And the probability is even very high, if you would read the reports in the newspapers, instead of
the magazine Casinogesetz.
Why do you constantly make these claims without any knowledge?
Whether the casino has a license or not, plays no role at all for the AGB (see contribution above).
If the GTC do not comply with the German legal norm, they are not valid.
Also the reference, it would be only the English AGB valid, is total nonsense! (s. contribution above)
The German terms and conditions count (see post above), whether that suits Pino or not.
As soon as there is the first German license, you will not find this wording at all.
You are really an obsessive about casinos. What they write in their terms and conditions is law for you.
And if the MGA had even a shred of decency, it would intervene against such formulations, that
only the English version counts, intervene! Then it would intervene against so many things!
But as already written, probably in Malta the Mafia is controlled
is controlled by the mafia
These assertions of you are really hard to bear, because you inform many here completely wrong!
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omenII wrote on 16.06.2022 at 21:33:
As soon as there is the first German license, you won't find this wording at all.
Firstly, there is already the German license and secondly, no one from abroad is allowed to play there. (eg Jackpotpiraten.de),
And gladly again concerning the MGA huts The terms and conditions are subject to Maltese law. Even if versions of these terms and conditions are available in other languages, the English language version is always binding. Under the freedom to provide services applicable in the EU, players can play in the casinos with Maltese license, even if they are in another country of the EU.
The MGA is the most reputable authority in the world with the strongest Player protection ever!
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16th Jun. 2022, at 10:05 pm CEST#331
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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 21:19
Like talking to a wall.
The casino Wizary has no license. Consequently, it does not matter at all what is written in the T&Cs. How do you even think to question the T&Cs, although the casino has no license . How does the statement come about that the casino could not have fake slots ?
Without exception, all unlicensed casinos are necessarily pirated!
Write me a private message. I offer you real money for 100 euros. Please don't let the imprint Uncle Pennybag blind you, it's real, I promise.
Auhur!
Of course it matters what is in the terms and conditions . No matter whether Malta or without a license .
If a casino writes in the terms and conditions that it pays out only 2500 € per month like the Malta Casino winner I would make a big circle around it.
Do you even know how to recognize fake slots ?
Was a rhetorical question ....
You do not know of course like so much .... But I will explain it to you:
About the server data that you compare with the official game servers.
Your statement that all casinos without a license use fake slots is the next of countless false statements that you have made here.
Fake slots can only be proven by the server data, not by the license.
A casino in Curacao can theoretically use fake slots while an unlicensed casino uses only original games.
Slotastic Casino, for example, operates without a license and uses only original games from RTG.
Why don't they have a license?
Because like many RTG casinos they focus on the US market and are therefore not tangible.
They still have a good reputation and a large player base in the US.
Maybe the Wizary Casino Fake slots, maybe not .
Unless you have checked the server data at Wizary Casino in real money mode, there is no proof that they use fake slots.
Please stop talking about things you have no idea about.
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16th Jun. 2022, at 10:32 pm CEST#332
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Royal777 wrote on 16.06.2022 at 21:58
Firstly, there is already the German license and secondly, no one from abroad is allowed to play there. (eg Jackpotpiraten.de),
And gladly again regarding the MGA cabins The terms and conditions are subject to Maltese law. Even if versions of these terms and conditions are available in other languages, the English language version is always binding. Under the freedom to provide services applicable in the EU, players can play in the casinos with Maltese license, even if they are in another country of the EU.
The MGA is the most reputable authority in the world with the strongest Player protection ever!
Boy, it really doesn't do any good with you. You are stuck in your opinion. And portraying the MGA as the most reputable agency,
pretty much says it all.
Regarding your statement: it doesn't matter what they write. The German version counts. And only then, if it
corresponds to the norm. Again, there is also a court ruling for this, which concerns FB with Whats App. And now you want
You tell me, if a casino writes that in, then it is so? I really have to laugh! Sure they write that in, so that
you think you can do nothing.
So, so much for that. I do not care what you think and what kind of ignorance you spread here. Ignore court decisions and the BGB.
Malta beats them all, even the ECJ. Enjoy your meal!
P.S. The freedom to provide services only goes as far as it affects national law.
Since these AGB have no Betand in Germany, they do not count.
If there would be an absolute freedom of services, you could order here without problems
Order weed from Holland
Freedom of services is one of the biggest fallacies of the gamblers!
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Krabbenburger wrote on 16.06.2022 at 22:05
Of course it matters what is in the T&Cs . No matter whether Malta or without a license .
If a casino writes in the terms and conditions that it pays out only 2500 € per month like the Malta Casino winner I would make a big deal about it .
Conversely, this would mean that you would make a Deposit because of your naivety in an unlicensed casino, unless it has low limits. Where the money goes to and who you support with it is all the same to you
Which conflict authority would you contact if you had a problem with Wizary? What conflict authority would you recommend to players at Wizary?
Let me guess, you will avoid the question because there is no answer!
Anyway, it is very noticeable that you are always disparaging about MGA casinos, while you have discovered your Holy Grail in Curacao casinos. You admit yourself that you don't care about the license and thus the player protection. At the same time, you whine about the unreasonable terms and conditions of MGA Casinos
If you can deny someone the credibility, then with you...
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omenII wrote on 16.06.2022 at 22:32
Boy, it really doesn't do any good with you. You are stuck in your opinion. And portraying the MGA as the most reputable agency,
pretty much says it all.
Regarding your statement: it doesn't matter what they write. The German version counts. And only then, if it
corresponds to the norm. Again, there is also a court ruling for this, which concerns FB with Whats App. And now you want
You tell me, if a casino writes that in, then it is so? I really have to laugh! Sure they write that in, so that
you think you can do nothing.
So, so much for that. I do not care what you think and what kind of ignorance you spread here. Ignore court decisions and the BGB.
Malta beats them all, even the ECJ. Enjoy your meal!
You were wrong, so you don't have to talk your head off now. To err is human and I have no problem at all (d) to accept another opinion.
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Many internationally active companies offer their services on the Internet, also to German customers. In doing so, they do not always use German-language general terms and conditions (GTC), but rather GTC in another language, e.g. English.
The subject of a ruling by the Berlin Appellate Court (AZ 5 U 156/14) was a lawsuit filed by the Federation of German Consumer Organizations (vzbv) against the Facebook subsidiary WhatsApp, which had only offered the GTC in English on its German-language website.
The Court of Appeal ruled that companies must also provide their terms and conditions in German on German-language websites. A consumer does not have to expect to encounter foreign-language GTCs with an "extensive, complex set of rules of very, very many clauses". Despite the prevalence of everyday English in Germany, according to the Kammergericht, a consumer cannot be expected to understand "legal, contractual and generally commercial English". If the GTC are not translated into German, all clauses are "intransparent and unfairly disadvantageous" and therefore invalid.
This ruling creates clarity for entrepreneurs and companies, including German ones, that offer services on the German market: GTCs are only effective vis-à-vis consumers if they are written in German.
The GTC must be in German, and are also binding there. That only English counts is an invention
of the casinos and complete nonsense.
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T&C that are not compliant, I can accept as I want, they still do not count.
According to your legal opinion, they can probably write anything in. Once a check mark is set,
they can buy with my credit card.
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It's embezzlement and you don't have to accept it either .
Or maybe you have to accept it in Malta casinos because this mafia authority MGA has no problem with it.
But with this you have admitted that the MGA license is completely worthless
Such terms and conditions would be immoral in most countries and therefore invalid.
You have a completely wrong legal view if you believe that everything in AGB is also binding for customers.
The casinos I mentioned rightly have a very bad reputation.
I just do not understand what you must be for a person if you defend such dubious business practices.
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Type... I criticize but this procedure of the casinos, yet it is not Mafiöse structures...
And again back to the topic:
It's like talking to a wall.
The casino Wizary has no license. Consequently, it does not matter at all what is written in the T&Cs. How do you even think to question the terms and conditions, although the casino has no license . How does the statement come about that the casino could not have fake slots ?
Without exception, all unlicensed casinos are necessarily pirated!
Write me a private message. I offer you real money for 100 euros. Please don't let the imprint Uncle Pennybag blind you, it's real, I promise.
Auhur!
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You can't judge at all from Germany whether it might not be mafia structures.
And the probability is even very high, if you would read the reports in the newspapers, instead of
the magazine Casinogesetz.
Why do you constantly make these claims without any knowledge?
Whether the casino has a license or not, plays no role at all for the AGB (see contribution above).
If the GTC do not comply with the German legal norm, they are not valid.
Also the reference, it would be only the English AGB valid, is total nonsense! (s. contribution above)
The German terms and conditions count (see post above), whether that suits Pino or not.
As soon as there is the first German license, you will not find this wording at all.
You are really an obsessive about casinos. What they write in their terms and conditions is law for you.
And if the MGA had even a shred of decency, it would intervene against such formulations, that
only the English version counts, intervene! Then it would intervene against so many things!
But as already written, probably in Malta the Mafia is controlled
is controlled by the mafia
These assertions of you are really hard to bear, because you inform many here completely wrong!
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Firstly, there is already the German license and secondly, no one from abroad is allowed to play there. (eg Jackpotpiraten.de),
And gladly again concerning the MGA huts
The terms and conditions are subject to Maltese law. Even if versions of these terms and conditions are available in other languages, the English language version is always binding. Under the freedom to provide services applicable in the EU, players can play in the casinos with Maltese license, even if they are in another country of the EU.
The MGA is the most reputable authority in the world with the strongest Player protection ever!
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Of course it matters what is in the terms and conditions . No matter whether Malta or without a license .
If a casino writes in the terms and conditions that it pays out only 2500 € per month like the Malta Casino winner I would make a big circle around it.
Do you even know how to recognize fake slots ?
Was a rhetorical question ....
You do not know of course like so much .... But I will explain it to you:
About the server data that you compare with the official game servers.
Your statement that all casinos without a license use fake slots is the next of countless false statements that you have made here.
Fake slots can only be proven by the server data, not by the license.
A casino in Curacao can theoretically use fake slots while an unlicensed casino uses only original games.
Slotastic Casino, for example, operates without a license and uses only original games from RTG.
Why don't they have a license?
Because like many RTG casinos they focus on the US market and are therefore not tangible.
They still have a good reputation and a large player base in the US.
Maybe the Wizary Casino Fake slots, maybe not .
Unless you have checked the server data at Wizary Casino in real money mode, there is no proof that they use fake slots.
Please stop talking about things you have no idea about.
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Boy, it really doesn't do any good with you. You are stuck in your opinion. And portraying the MGA as the most reputable agency,
pretty much says it all.
Regarding your statement: it doesn't matter what they write. The German version counts. And only then, if it
corresponds to the norm. Again, there is also a court ruling for this, which concerns FB with Whats App. And now you want
You tell me, if a casino writes that in, then it is so? I really have to laugh! Sure they write that in, so that
you think you can do nothing.
So, so much for that. I do not care what you think and what kind of ignorance you spread here. Ignore court decisions and the BGB.
Malta beats them all, even the ECJ. Enjoy your meal!
P.S. The freedom to provide services only goes as far as it affects national law.
Since these AGB have no Betand in Germany, they do not count.
If there would be an absolute freedom of services, you could order here without problems
Order weed from Holland
Freedom of services is one of the biggest fallacies of the gamblers!
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Conversely, this would mean that you would make a Deposit because of your naivety in an unlicensed casino, unless it has low limits. Where the money goes to and who you support with it is all the same to you
Which conflict authority would you contact if you had a problem with Wizary? What conflict authority would you recommend to players at Wizary?
Let me guess, you will avoid the question because there is no answer!
Anyway, it is very noticeable that you are always disparaging about MGA casinos, while you have discovered your Holy Grail in Curacao casinos. You admit yourself that you don't care about the license and thus the player protection. At the same time, you whine about the unreasonable terms and conditions of MGA Casinos
If you can deny someone the credibility, then with you...
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You were wrong, so you don't have to talk your head off now. To err is human and I have no problem at all (d) to accept another opinion.
Everything cool
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