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Bonus & offers: "Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

Topic created on 17th May. 2023 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 19 | Views: 1,936
Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 07:22 pm CEST#1
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Afternoon,


i noticed that "wagerfree" Bonuses are very popular in this forum.

As I understand it, you do not increase your chances of winning, but you double as often as you can spin. (Assuming that the value of the bonus is 100%)
The value of the bonus is deducted after the payout

I would be very grateful if you could explain to me how this increases your chances of winning, if it is possible.

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 07:48 pm CEST#2
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Actually, the core components are all correctly stated. The probability of winning in the actual sense can not be increased, but the chances of winning are already increased to some extent, because you a) have the 100% buffer, which offers any bonus, but b) if necessary, if you use the granted amount, you do not have to turn over 30X or 40X to be able to pay out. At best, you don't even slip below your deposited amount and just pay out in the win. Better too early than not at all. But that's just my personal Sparheimer pocket gambler devise If you play with bonus, there are no better variants. So go for it, follow forbidden games and max-bet rule and if necessary observe max-cashout ...good luck

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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 08:44 pm CEST#3
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Langhans wrote on 17.05.2023 at 19:48: Actually, the core components are all correctly reflected. You can't increase the probability of winning in the actual sense, but the chances of winning are already increased to a certain extent, because a) you have the 100% buffer that every bonus offers, but b) in case of need, if you use the granted amount, you don't have to wager another 30X or 40X to be able to pay out. At best, you don't even slip below your deposited amount and just pay out in the win. Better too early than not at all. But that's just my personal Sparheimer pocket gambler devise If you play with bonus, there are no better variants. So go for it, follow forbidden games and max-bet rule and if necessary max-cashout ...good luck

Isn't there the disadvantage that the bet is fixed up to €?

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 08:52 pm CEST#4
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Gigi55 wrote on 05/17/2023 at 8:44 PM:

Isn't there the disadvantage that the stake is fixed up to €?

For most, a bet of 4€-5€ (depending on the casino) is I think largely sufficient and the limit therefore no disadvantage. This would then affect Wagerfree, Sticky or Non-Sticky anyway equally - in this case, at least for my taste, the Wagerfree would be preferred. Who permanently spins higher stakes than 5€, is probably anyway none of those who plays great with bonus. The latter assumption I have now but just so for me together

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Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 10:33 pm CEST#5
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If anyone else has something useful to say about this, I would be very pleased and grateful. Read in the topic always diligently.

So far I have understood it so that the "wagerfree" is better than no bonus, but the Oberknaller it is also not.

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Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 10:54 pm CEST#6
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Langhans wrote on 17.05.2023 at 20:52:
For most, a bet size of 4€-5€ (depending on the casino) is I think largely sufficient and the limitation therefore no disadvantage. That would then Wagerfree, Sticky or Non-Sticky anyway equally - in that case, at least for my taste, the Wagerfree would be preferable. t

Why prefer? Isn't a 300% upward bonus better than 100% "wagerfree"?

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 11:00 pm CEST#7
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Tischlein wrote on 17/05/2023 at 22:33: If anyone else has anything useful to say about this, I'd be delighted and grateful. Always read along diligently in the thread.

So far my understanding is that the "wagerfree" is better than no bonus at all, but it's not the upper crust either.

What kind of bonus are you looking for? There is no such all-in-one thing a la "Deposit and then lay the table". We are all still looking for Bonuses with guaranteed winnings (so far in vain) and I have at least tried to show the advantages of the Wagerfree, even if this has not yet been enough for the "predicate Oberknaller"

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 11:23 pm CEST#8
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Tischlein wrote on 17.05.2023 at 22:54:

Why prefer? Isn't a 300% upside bonus better than 100% "wagerfree"?

Nope, from the Risk-reward ratio much worse, because you usually have to wager the 300% up bonus 30-40 times before a payout with a non-wagerfree. The details can be found in the applicable bonus rules of the casino. Bonuses of this size are usually sticky - you have a lot of work ahead of you and need a lot of luck before you have money in your hand. There are also non-sticky bonuses....but there is rarely 300%. Mostly rather 100% or also times 150%...those are in such a way a Zwischending between Sticky and Wagerfree....That would go now however somewhat too far, in order to describe that in the detail...I hope it was nevertheless usefully

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Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 11:44 pm CEST#9
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Langhans wrote on 05/17/2023 at 23:00:
Looking for what kind of bonus are you d


Nah, I'm not looking for a bonus at all. I'm just exploring the popularity of the "wagerfree" variety You don't have to talk to me like a newbie.

I already know the basics. Upper limit for the bet amount, how many times that must implement, etc.

Am not yet convinced of the variant. Let that always expire and hope that I overlooked something.

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Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

17th May. 2023, at 11:58 pm CEST#10
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to Langhans

If you get a "wegerfree" bonus from a trusted casino, do you take it every time?

And then what do you do with it?

Thank you.

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Falke
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

18th May. 2023, at 12:13 am CEST#11
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Tischlein wrote on 17/05/2023 at 22:33: If anyone else has anything useful to say about this, I'd be delighted and grateful. Always read along diligently in the thread.

So far I understand that the "wagerfree" is better than no bonus at all, but it's not the big hit either.

Of course, you have higher chances of winning.


Normally you would Deposit 100 €, lose and reload.
If you have the bonus, then you have lost the 100 €, but can then continue to play with 100 € and do not have to deposit.
As soon as you are over the 100 € again, you can cash out - money that you normally would not have won, except with a new deposit.

A no-turnover but non-cashable bonus is one of the best Bonuses you can get.

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

18th May. 2023, at 01:29 am CEST#12
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Tischlein wrote on 17.05.2023 at 23:44:


Nah, I'm not looking for a bonus at all. I'm just exploring the popularity of the "wagerfree" variant You don't have to talk to me like a newbie.

I already know the basics. Upper limit for the bet amount, how many times that must implement, etc.

Am not yet convinced of the variant. Always let it lapse and hope that I overlooked something.

I always talk with everyone quite reasonably...also with you. There is also no reason in a forum for me not to do so. That's what it's for in my eyes.


I have tried to discuss the advantages I see in the type of offers. Falcon has also agreed with the basic recommendation on a Wagerfree bonus. The matter around all the Bonuses - despite their differences - is not that complicated in the end. If you still have reservations and are not convinced: no problem. Every player profile is different...and everyone approaches the matter differently. Do you pay without everything or take one with 300%, 400% or even 500%. You can also bring them to the finish line. In your place I would possibly just take one and see how I like it. It can also be done in an hour and you are blank. But then the bonus is not to blame, but the lack of luck at that moment.

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Langhans
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

18th May. 2023, at 01:38 am CEST#13
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Tischlein wrote on 17.05.2023 at 23:58: to Langhans

If you get a "wegerfree" bonus from a trusted casino, do you take it every time?

And then what do you do with it?

Thanks.

Maybe not 100%, because unfortunately I don't have time and also desire to gamble all day, but by and large I structure the Bonuses at providers I love in such a way that I can also use them for the most part, depending on availability, term, etc.


What do I do with them then? Unwind my scheme...Preserve capital, preserve and optimize chances of profit, pay out at the right moment for me. And in all of this, not to sound too brittle, also have fun. That's pretty much always the case

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Tischlein
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

18th May. 2023, at 06:25 am CEST#14
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Langhans wrote on 18.05.2023 at 01:29:

I always talk to everyone quite reasonably...including you. There is also no reason in a forum for me not to do so. That is what it is meant for in my eyes.



Was not an attack against you. Just wanted to save you the typing. You made everything very detailed and bite-sized. As just for an uninformed person.

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dazzle_tea
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"Wagerfree" bonus does not increase the chances of winning?

18th May. 2023, at 10:21 am CEST#15
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no offense, but it also sounded like you needed a detailed explanation.

to your question:
i think it's also player nature dependent, where you see the biggest advantage. with a 300% bonus (but i haven't seen one without max-cashout btw), where you can keep the bonus, but the chances to lose everything while wagering are also given.
or whether you take a 100% wagerfree, which is more or less a backup and where you can cash out your wins, once in real money, at any time.

if the wagerfree is without max-cashout, i would always prefer that. i recently had nen 500% bonus 10 pure, 50 on top), which had to be gewagert. 1000, - euro hit landed at Fat Drac and then failed to convert. has reminded me again why I'm not a fan of normal sticky bonuses.

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