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Gambling addiction in general: Gambling addiction (Page 4)

Topic created on 03rd Feb. 2020 | Page: 4 of 14 | Answers: 132 | Views: 27,610
gamble1
Legend
abc123 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:06
Are you self sufficient or how exactly do you live on 10€/week? Do you eat only rice noodles and potatoes?

that would also interest me because every normal citizen whether work or no work provided over 25J is entitled to Hartz4 or any social support

I look at what the TE writes not really through just as I have not seen anyone who pays online 1 € and tries to play with it 10 € Yes ok that can be accepted but 1-2 € that is really mysterious to me

just as if I had the urge 1-2 € to have to Deposit sounds to me after high-grade search and after that in the run-up some was already gambled away

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abc123
Rookie
Ichbins2018 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:10: You are right about a lot @Andy_1980,
however you should not overlook that:
for one, not everyone who plays (although extremely favorable conditions for taking "digital heroin" have been created) is or becomes addicted to gaming.
Secondly, I have never met anyone who you can stop from playing, regardless of whether the game is legal or illegal - and certainly you can not teach players in a forum where the "active" play has top priority

In short (and I really don't mean this in a bad way) I personally find such contributions like yours good,
however, I think "such" here for quite sense-purposeless...just because as I already wrote, the player here in the first instance animated / triggered to Risk a few euros

Edit: of course you can write here what you want - and if it helps you, go ahead...
However, there are what your addiction (and you like to write) better forums for you!

You are right that not everyone becomes addicted to gambling, not everyone becomes an alcoholic, however, according to my experiences and the experiences in my circle of friends, it should not be tempted to gamble. Friends circle not necessarily irritate, search comes faster than you think

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abc123
Rookie
gamble1 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:14
that would also interest me because every normal citizen whether work or no work provided over 25J is entitled to Hartz4 or any social support

I look at what the TE writes not really through just as I have not seen anyone who pays online 1 € and tries to play with it 10 € Yes ok that can be accepted but 1-2 € that is really mysterious to me

just as if I had the urge 1-2 € to have to Deposit sounds to me after high-grade search and after that in the run-up some was already gambled away

Me.is no casino known where you can deposit 1 €, minimum 10 €

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Falko
Icon

abc123 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:16
Mir.is no casino known where you can Deposit 1€, minimum 10€

Yes there are,but they are very few casinos. I can think of Dunder and Bet at Home, where it is possible to deposit with the Paysafe card in 1 euro increments.

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
abc123 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:15
You are right about not everyone becoming addicted to gambling, not everyone becomes an alcoholic, however in my experience and the experiences in my. Circle of friends not necessarily irritate, searches come faster than you think.

Since I have played for over 30 years (the last 10 years excessively) I probably belong to those who know pretty well what is going on, how the lobby works (also here), etc. Finally, I have been dealing with it for several years.
Online I have never played, but as far as the arcades are concerned, people knew each other -knew why they sat there
-and knew that no one went there voluntarily only to burn "hobby" his money

How it behaves online I have honestly no idea, a lot of conversation is here but very similar to the halls...
Resulting from this I suspect that what concerns the search potential it behaves online not much different?

As far as Gambling addiction is concerned - you're absolutely right, of course, that addiction potential which now emanates from the so-called gambling is enormous, but unfortunately most will get to feel it only when it is already much too late

But you can stop or save just no one from it

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Kleinkariert
Expert
Ichbins2018 wrote on 10.02.2020 at 18:57
Having played for over 30 years myself (the last 10 years excessively), I'm probably one of those who know pretty much what's going on, how the lobby works (even here), etc. after all, I've been dealing with it for quite a few years.
Online I have never played, but as far as the arcades are concerned, people knew each other -knew why they sat there
-and knew that no one went there voluntarily only to "hobby" to burn his money

How it behaves online I have honestly no idea, a lot of conversation is here but very similar to the halls...
Resulting from this I suspect times that what concerns the search potential it behaves online not much different?

As far as Gambling addiction is concerned - you're absolutely right, of course, that addiction potential which now emanates from the so-called gambling is enormous, but unfortunately most will get to feel it only when it is already much too late

But you can stop or save just no one from it.

I am in favor of regulating it well. So that it still has its charm but the people are better protected from total loss.

Currently, everyone can play themselves into ruin and tear down the family and friends with it. Also, all the streamers who encourage children to do so - although not always intentionally - bother me. I wonder if it should be allowed to stream gambling without proper age Verification for viewers.

Many children talk about Monte and Knossi and can hardly wait to play themselves. At the same time, when you're young, you're a bit more naive. And the worst thing is, as you wrote yourself, you can't stop them. They will play no matter what you say, my hope is only that they can get up again after the fall.

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A****0
@Kleinkariert, all the streamers on YouTube etc., they get billions of euros from the casinos that they get others, viewers addicted. How else could they afford to shoot for hours on 100 euros / spin?

For everyone who then pays in through a link or so at the casino, they receive at least 95 percent of the respective Deposit in commission.

That is why only in reality an RTP of maximum 5 or 10 percent is possible online and not 96 or 98 percent, as stated by many. The payout is at the end still far below what goes in the Spielo so. There maybe actually 50 percent of the deposit comes out again sometime.
I know Affilates for various OC's and they earn easily every month their 15 to 20 million euros, for that they make sick people even more addicted.
Since one does not understand on YT that such videos are not deleted immediately and these streamers are blocked.

On TV, it's exactly the same, and it's becoming more and more advertising, even at midnight between children's programs. Since the same advertising for hard drugs such as heroin, cocaine, etc. but bring, is exactly the same and also illegal. But also the TV stations make millions with this advertising every day, it's just annoying.
Get daily 100te of e-mails that where to deposit, with Bosuns partly 400 or 500 percent.
That never works anyway. Everyone who plays knows that you can bet the deposited amount a maximum of 3 or 4 times, then everything is gone. And the bonus you have to convert most of the time 50 or even Fach, which never works

But still, enough people fall for it, pay in and become addicted. The state tolerates it just, undertakes nothing against it.

And even without money to gamble, as in play money mode, even small children are really already addicted to it and run around all day with smartphone and gamble the games just for hours on it. Then they start to buy psc from pocket money and pay in, no matter that they can then never pay out a cent.
It's sad where we've ended up in the meantime, but there's probably nothing you can do about it anyway. Unfortunately.

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Kleinkariert wrote on 11.02.2020 at 00:41
I'm all for regulating it well. So that it still has its appeal but the people are better protected from total loss.

Currently, anyone can play themselves into ruin and pull the family and friend down with them. Also, all the streamers who encourage children to do so - although not always intentionally - bother me. I wonder if it should be allowed to stream gambling without proper age Verification for viewers.

Many children talk about Monte and Knossi and can hardly wait to play themselves. At the same time, when you're young, you're a bit more naive. And the worst thing is, as you wrote yourself, you can't stop them. They will play no matter what you say, my hope is only that they can get up again after the fall.

That gambling can still be regulated in this day and age I personally think is a rumor @Kleinkariert - and if our state starts to regulate, then it is mainly because it is concerned about its own advantage.
As for online casinos...here our state has for years only watched, knows that meanwhile every year billions are raked into the Auslang - and would like to soon under the pretext "gambling regulation" of course also have a piece of the cake.
My conclusion, an effective protection has never given it and will not give it also with the new gambling treaty (2021) - and is certainly not wanted.

What now the people to the man with the citizen King crown or other crying necks find so great is me really a mystery, I can not start anything at all with - and one or the other Streamer reminds me (at best) already after 10 sec look at a cow which is affected by BSE, just sick

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Anonym

Andy_1980 wrote on 11.02.2020 at 16:03: @Kleinkariert, all the streamers on YouTube etc., they get billions of euros from the casinos that they make others, viewers addicted. How else could they afford to spin for over hours on 100 euros/spin?

For everyone who then pays in through a link or so at the casino, they receive at least 95 percent of the respective Deposit in commission.

That is why only in reality an RTP of maximum 5 or 10 percent is possible online and not 96 or 98 percent, as stated by many. The payout is at the end still far below what goes in the Spielo so. There maybe actually 50 percent of the deposit comes out again sometime.
I know Affilates for various OC's and they earn easily every month their 15 to 20 million euros, for that they make sick people even more addicted.
Since one does not understand on YT that such videos are not deleted immediately and these streamers are blocked.

On TV, it's exactly the same, and it's becoming more and more advertising, even at midnight between children's programs. Since the same advertising for hard drugs such as heroin, cocaine, etc. but bring, is exactly the same and also illegal. But also the TV stations make millions with this advertising every day, it's just annoying.
Get daily 100te of e-mails that where to deposit, with Bosuns partly 400 or 500 percent.
That never works anyway. Everyone who plays knows that you can bet the deposited amount a maximum of 3 or 4 times, then everything is gone. And the bonus you have to convert most of the time 50 or even Fach, which never works

But still, enough people fall for it, pay in and become addicted. The state tolerates it just, undertakes nothing against it.

And even without money to gamble, as in play money mode, even small children are really already addicted to it and run around all day with smartphone and gamble the games just for hours on it. Then they start to buy psc from pocket money and pay in, no matter that they can then never pay out a cent.
It's sad where we've ended up in the meantime, but there's probably nothing you can do about it anyway. Unfortunately.

Andy, partly I agree with you, but still you talk everything bad here. Also in another thread you tell the questioner that he will never get his 3000 euros payout, unless he invests 30,000 € in a lawyer.

And of course affiliates earn money but you write you know which 15 - 20 million for it in the month get. I would like to see that in writing....
Then you write, the affiliates get 95% of the deposits of the players and the RTP is 5-10%. Then you write again you get a maximum of 50% out.
I have been playing for a long time and I have lost a lot and I agree with you that in the casino you lose in the long run.
Nevertheless, I think that you want to warn others about gambling but you exaggerate.
I do not believe that you can present here evidence and figures for your theories, so after the motto one always loses and casinos pay out a maximum of 100 euros, etc., etc.
Please write only posts that bring the others here what and do not exaggerate so.
I have received from numerous casinos payouts of 5000 - 10,000 euros with partly only 50 euros deposit, and that within 1-3 days.
Sure, in the long run all players lose, but please do not put any rumors in the world and do not exaggerate so.
Thank you.

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Begbie
Elite
Ichbins2018 wrote on 11.02.2020 at 19:47
That gambling in this day and age can still be regulated I personally think is a rumor @Kleinkariert -and if our state begins to regulate, then predominantly only because he is concerned about his own advantage.
As for online casinos...here our state has for years only watched, knows that meanwhile every year billions are raked into the Auslang - and would like to soon under the pretext "gambling regulation" of course also have a piece of the cake.
My conclusion, an effective protection has never given it and will not give it also with the new gambling treaty (2021) - and is certainly not wanted.

What now the people to the man with the citizen King crown or other crying necks find so great is me really a mystery, I can not start anything at all with - and the one or the other Streamer reminds me (at best) already after 10 sec look at a cow which is affected by BSE, just sick.

the state may also quietly appeal to the personal responsibility of each, mostly adult citizen.
One cannot expect that the state protects one from all evils which can seek one home.
The path to surveillance and incapacitation is quickly flowing.

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