The people who write something about "self-inflicted guilt" are wrong
Yes, we regular users of GJ have known all this for a long time. We constantly see topics of this kind and constantly see replies that point to bonus rules and are constantly confronted with interpretations, no matter how small. But the fact is that no one who does not deal with this on such a regular basis can be so trained and accordingly bring this knowledge. So we are talking about 4 cents. Let's assume that such a case would be tried in a German court according to German law. A court would never decide that due to these 4 cents an advantage for the player arose and thus a bonus fraud is present. It is simply not a fraud of the player. Rather, in my opinion, it is a highly immoral and almost certainly illegal trick on the part of the casino
Of course, I don't think you could really successfully sue against it. This is not German law but Maltese or European or even a bit of German law. The licensing authority mga tolerates such terms and conditions and decides in such cases. And the authority never decides in such cases per player. Because according to the rules, the casino has the right. But the fact that the rules are set up hair exact and nonsensical does not matter. And exactly this fact would not hold up in a German court. And German players on German websites are socialized with German law and easily fall into such small offenses, which are disproportionately punished.
The casino industry is quite shady and to some extent criminal. The best casinos are fair, not because they have to but because they want to be. That means you can always get into bad casinos and one of them is probably Winfest. It is an outrage to set up and enforce such rules
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29th Jul. 2020, at 06:20 pm CEST#24
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exactly because of something like this i play my credit (when i play with bonus) always down to 0,00. there can happen nothing when you Deposit again. so you are always on the safe side
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29th Jul. 2020, at 06:51 pm CEST#25
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Did you play a game that was forbidden with the first bet of the 200€ or did you win right away?
Otherwise the Bonus money would have been gone after the first spin with the 200€, or am I seeing this wrong?
In any case, a new casino that comes with me on the blacklist...
"Thought that my bonus is empty was only 0.04 euros left disaster..."
So it is clear that he is aware of his guilt. If he had seen that his bonus is not empty, he would have acted differently. Otherwise I can not interpret this statement. He has "thought" but not looked or controlled. And yes, it has happened to me also in the kind but there I am simply myself to blame! Not thinking but controlling. Mostly it is a click that gives me directly the answer!
Patizi wrote on 07/29/2020 at 3:30 pm: It's just a matter of logic! No one has anything to give away. Stop being hypocrites here. If one of you owned the casino, you wouldn't pay out either. The conditions were or are clear. If the player does not pay attention to it, it is his mistake and not that of the casino! And do not come to me with "are only 4 cents", then you would have to do that with everyone. Whether 1, 2, 3 or 4 cents. How high do you want to draw the tolerance limit? The fact is, there are rules and they are in the rules of the casino. Who does not adhere to them or does not fulfill the conditions correctly, has simply had bad luck!
If I were the owner of the casino, I would want the player to stay with me. I would know that he is very likely to gamble away the win again and more. But what the heck... some of you just love rules. Because rules are something you just stick to. No matter how inane they may be.
SunSun13 wrote on 07/29/2020 at 8:27 pm
If I were the owner of the casino, I would want the gambler to stay with me. I would know that he is very likely to gamble away the win again and more. But what the heck... some of you just love rules. Because rules are something you just stick to. No matter how inane they may be.
Yes, there are rules, and okay, they have to be followed. But something like this is simply rip-off....4 cents...🙄🙄 simply embarrassing!!!!
SunSun13 wrote on 07/29/2020 at 8:27 pm
If I were the owner of the casino, I would want the gambler to stay with me. I would know that he is very likely to gamble away the win again and more. But what the heck... some of you just love rules. Because rules are something you just stick to. No matter how inane they may be.
Why shouldn't I stick to the rules I set myself? You should all put aside your mimimi and your pity. That is now once fact that everything was evident to read. Since you can still write so often how crap the casino is. It does not matter if you would make an exception for hundreds of people. You are not the owner of the casino so, terms and conditions say it clearly what is the matter!
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What a mass of non-playable machines at the bonus.
Would be for me already a reason not to play there.
That can only go wrong.
I always find good, this "this is the final decision and not contestable".
The king has spoken.
I've seen this passage several times: The Casinomanger's decision is final,
and cannot be appealed. Yes, your majesty.
By the way, I'm surprised by the reactions here. Usually they say you have to read the bonus rules,
otherwise you're stupid. And also otherwise bonus rules are revered and protected to the knife as holy scripture.
In my opinion, this is clearly a violation of the rules. Even if it is very small
We all know how casinos react to bonus violations
Whether I am flashed with 6km/h or 20km/h too much is irrelevant. It's an offence.
Only the price is different.
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Yes, we regular users of GJ have known all this for a long time. We constantly see topics of this kind and constantly see replies that point to bonus rules and are constantly confronted with interpretations, no matter how small. But the fact is that no one who does not deal with this on such a regular basis can be so trained and accordingly bring this knowledge. So we are talking about 4 cents. Let's assume that such a case would be tried in a German court according to German law. A court would never decide that due to these 4 cents an advantage for the player arose and thus a bonus fraud is present. It is simply not a fraud of the player. Rather, in my opinion, it is a highly immoral and almost certainly illegal trick on the part of the casino
Of course, I don't think you could really successfully sue against it. This is not German law but Maltese or European or even a bit of German law. The licensing authority mga tolerates such terms and conditions and decides in such cases. And the authority never decides in such cases per player. Because according to the rules, the casino has the right. But the fact that the rules are set up hair exact and nonsensical does not matter. And exactly this fact would not hold up in a German court. And German players on German websites are socialized with German law and easily fall into such small offenses, which are disproportionately punished.
The casino industry is quite shady and to some extent criminal. The best casinos are fair, not because they have to but because they want to be. That means you can always get into bad casinos and one of them is probably Winfest. It is an outrage to set up and enforce such rules
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Otherwise the Bonus money would have been gone after the first spin with the 200€, or am I seeing this wrong?
In any case, a new casino that comes with me on the blacklist...
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So it is clear that he is aware of his guilt. If he had seen that his bonus is not empty, he would have acted differently. Otherwise I can not interpret this statement. He has "thought" but not looked or controlled. And yes, it has happened to me also in the kind but there I am simply myself to blame! Not thinking but controlling. Mostly it is a click that gives me directly the answer!
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If I were the owner of the casino, I would want the player to stay with me. I would know that he is very likely to gamble away the win again and more. But what the heck... some of you just love rules. Because rules are something you just stick to. No matter how inane they may be.
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Yes, there are rules, and okay, they have to be followed. But something like this is simply rip-off....4 cents...🙄🙄 simply embarrassing!!!!
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Be glad that it was only 200€ and ned 2000. Go to a decent casino and gamble there - leave this bonus away and look forward to 1777€ afterwards.
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Why shouldn't I stick to the rules I set myself? You should all put aside your mimimi and your pity. That is now once fact that everything was evident to read. Since you can still write so often how crap the casino is. It does not matter if you would make an exception for hundreds of people. You are not the owner of the casino so, terms and conditions say it clearly what is the matter!
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Would be for me already a reason not to play there.
That can only go wrong.
I always find good, this "this is the final decision and not contestable".
The king has spoken.
I've seen this passage several times: The Casinomanger's decision is final,
and cannot be appealed. Yes, your majesty.
By the way, I'm surprised by the reactions here. Usually they say you have to read the bonus rules,
otherwise you're stupid. And also otherwise bonus rules are revered and protected to the knife as holy scripture.
In my opinion, this is clearly a violation of the rules. Even if it is very small
We all know how casinos react to bonus violations
Whether I am flashed with 6km/h or 20km/h too much is irrelevant. It's an offence.
Only the price is different.
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