Chewi wrote on 26.05.2024 at 16:18: I'm really surprised by this special GambleJoe Kicktipp rule. I didn't know it, I'm not registered there.
Read about "Kicktipp Style" and assumed it applied to draws
In the event of a draw, either the correct tendency is awarded 2 points or the correct result is awarded 4 points.
I don't participate here and I don't know any kick Tip rules, but if Wiesbaden plays 2 to 2 and I bet 1 to 1, I get 2 points for the result and 1 point because I have the difference of 0 correct. And I think that's fair. Imagine someone is first and has scored 15 points, 3 of them several times due to the correct difference, now it's the last game, he gets 0 points and you have predicted 2 to 2 in the game that ends 1 to 1, then you would also like to have the 3 points because the difference between 1 to 1 and 2 to 2 is the same.
Or seen another way, anyone who bets on a draw would be at a disadvantage if the exact result is not known because they could never get 3 points.
I don't participate here and I don't know any kick Tip rules but if Wiesbaden plays 2 to 2 now and I bet 1 to 1, I get 2 points for the outcome and 1 point because I have the difference of 0 correct. And I think that's fair. Imagine someone is first and has scored 15 points, 3 of them several times due to the correct difference, now it's the last game, he gets 0 points and you have predicted 2 to 2 in the game that ends 1 to 1, then you would also like to have the 3 points because the difference between 1 to 1 and 2 to 2 is the same.
Or seen another way, anyone who bets on a draw would be at a disadvantage if the exact result is not known because they could never get 3 points.
But your argument doesn't quite apply, which is why it is often awarded 2 points. If you bet on a draw, there are 3 possible outcomes, or if you want to be really harsh, 4 possible outcomes: 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 and 3-3. You take one of these so that you have a 25% chance of getting 4 points. If you bet on the home team, for example, you have 6 realistically possible outcomes with 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 2-1, 3-1, 3-2. Ergo only 16.67 percent chance of 4 points. The tendency with 3 points cushions this a little, so that you have a 33 percent chance of the correct tendency if you are right with your tip. In the end, it's actually not entirely fair that you always get 3 points with a draw. The conservative rule in this case is much fairer.
Xavi22 wrote on 29.05.2024 at 15:26:
Your reasoning doesn't quite apply though, that's why it's often given 2 points. If you bet on a draw, there are 3 possible outcomes, if you want to be really harsh, 4 possible outcomes. 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 and 3-3. You take one of them, so you have a 25% chance of 4 points. If you bet on the home team, for example, you have 6 realistically possible outcomes with 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 2-1, 3-1, 3-2. Ergo only 16.67 percent chance of 4 points. The tendency with 3 points cushions this a little, so that you have a 33 percent chance of the correct tendency if you are right with your tip. In the end, it's actually not entirely fair that you always get 3 points with a draw. The conservative rule in this case is much fairer.
I just felt like evaluating. A lot is still possible before the last game. No guarantee, of course,
because Andre is doing the official evaluation. But I think that's the right way.
I quickly found out the following constellations using Excel:
Real wins with 1:0 / 3:2 / 5:1 or higher
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Nik with 8 points
3. JoshGordon, Mipe, Butterbrezel with 7 points
Real wins with 4:1
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Lumba with 8 points
3. JoshGordon, Nik, MiPe, Butterpretzel with 7 points
Real wins 4:2
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Donnie, JoshGordon, Nik, MiPe, Butterpretzel with 7 points
Real wins with 2:0
1. Emeyesty with 11 points
2. JoshGordon with 9 points
3. MiPe, Butterbrezel, Chewi with 8 points
Real wins with 2:1
1. Emeyesty, Nik with 9 points
2. JoshGordon, MiPe, Butterbrezel, Stromberg, Olymp, slotliebe with 7 points
Real wins with 3:1
1. Emeyesty with 10 points
2. MiPe, Butterbrezel with 9 points
Real - Dortmund - 0:0
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty, MisterL with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 1:1
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty, Enride with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 2:2
1. Patizi with 9 points
2. Emeyesty, Jenn-R with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 3:3
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty with 7 points
3. Jenn-R, MisterL, Enride with 6 points
Real - Dortmund - 0:1
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. JoshGordon, Patizi, Nik, MiPe, Butterbrezel, lance with 5 points
Real - Dortmund - 1:2
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. Toast, Xavi with 6 points
Real - Dortmund - Dortmund win with other results
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. JoshGordon, Patizi, Nik, MiPe, Butterbrezel with 5 points
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But on gamblejoe Kicktipp it's 3, was put up extra at the time because some complained
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Oh well ... fair is something else but well, that's just the way it is ... 😅
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What's not fair about that. You could have predicted a draw, but the teams still have to play like this.
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Because I see the whole thing like Chewi ... but well it's just like that . Rules are rules 😀
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Read about "Kicktipp Style" and assumed it applied to draws
In the event of a draw, either the correct tendency is awarded 2 points or the correct result is awarded 4 points.
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I don't participate here and I don't know any kick Tip rules, but if Wiesbaden plays 2 to 2 and I bet 1 to 1, I get 2 points for the result and 1 point because I have the difference of 0 correct. And I think that's fair. Imagine someone is first and has scored 15 points, 3 of them several times due to the correct difference, now it's the last game, he gets 0 points and you have predicted 2 to 2 in the game that ends 1 to 1, then you would also like to have the 3 points because the difference between 1 to 1 and 2 to 2 is the same.
Or seen another way, anyone who bets on a draw would be at a disadvantage if the exact result is not known because they could never get 3 points.
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There will be an interim result tomorrow so that everyone knows their chances before the last game
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But your argument doesn't quite apply, which is why it is often awarded 2 points. If you bet on a draw, there are 3 possible outcomes, or if you want to be really harsh, 4 possible outcomes: 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 and 3-3. You take one of these so that you have a 25% chance of getting 4 points. If you bet on the home team, for example, you have 6 realistically possible outcomes with 1-0, 2-0, 3-0, 2-1, 3-1, 3-2. Ergo only 16.67 percent chance of 4 points. The tendency with 3 points cushions this a little, so that you have a 33 percent chance of the correct tendency if you are right with your tip. In the end, it's actually not entirely fair that you always get 3 points with a draw. The conservative rule in this case is much fairer.
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😂😂😂
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No, I skimmed it roughly and emeyeste should be ahead with his draws. With 6.
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Nah, I only have 5 points. Emeyesty is ahead with 7 points.
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because Andre is doing the official evaluation. But I think that's the right way.
I quickly found out the following constellations using Excel:
Real wins with 1:0 / 3:2 / 5:1 or higher
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Nik with 8 points
3. JoshGordon, Mipe, Butterbrezel with 7 points
Real wins with 4:1
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Lumba with 8 points
3. JoshGordon, Nik, MiPe, Butterpretzel with 7 points
Real wins 4:2
1. Emeyesty with 9 points
2. Donnie, JoshGordon, Nik, MiPe, Butterpretzel with 7 points
Real wins with 2:0
1. Emeyesty with 11 points
2. JoshGordon with 9 points
3. MiPe, Butterbrezel, Chewi with 8 points
Real wins with 2:1
1. Emeyesty, Nik with 9 points
2. JoshGordon, MiPe, Butterbrezel, Stromberg, Olymp, slotliebe with 7 points
Real wins with 3:1
1. Emeyesty with 10 points
2. MiPe, Butterbrezel with 9 points
Real - Dortmund - 0:0
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty, MisterL with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 1:1
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty, Enride with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 2:2
1. Patizi with 9 points
2. Emeyesty, Jenn-R with 7 points
Real - Dortmund - 3:3
1. Patizi with 8 points
2. Emeyesty with 7 points
3. Jenn-R, MisterL, Enride with 6 points
Real - Dortmund - 0:1
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. JoshGordon, Patizi, Nik, MiPe, Butterbrezel, lance with 5 points
Real - Dortmund - 1:2
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. Toast, Xavi with 6 points
Real - Dortmund - Dortmund win with other results
1. Emeyesty with 7 points
2. JoshGordon, Patizi, Nik, MiPe, Butterbrezel with 5 points
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