Only that the RTP was put down with some providers, is a minus point with Videoslots.
You loosely put a "only" at the beginning of that sentence, as if that was just some unimportant detail, like a different colored spin button.
But the other way around, WHAT THE f**kING HELL can be more important than this Return to Player percentage?
Sure, they "only" lowered the RTP, no big deal, before it was just TOO easy to bring out thousands of Euros every month, now it's just 1-2k, but VS doesn't go bankrupt...or how do you mean that?
But people so it is not, if one leads oneself this whole procedure times before eyes, then one must ask oneself nevertheless actually seriously the question, how it can be possible, that a store announces something so publicly and pulls through, without which a large outcry goes by the Zockerlager, without which the players remain row by row away from protest etc. etc.. Because that's what it's all about, you're playing (actually, at least it used to be that way) to win something, and they just say
"Oh by the way, from now on you simply win less with us. But that doesn't matter, we have a surprise for you: In the future, you only have to wager 5x (yes, only five times) as much as before to be allowed to take part in the battles like
But don't worry, there are less freespins to win than before.
And by the way, the regular email promos with 24-hour battle tickets and freespins will also be dropped from now on, of course. Everything clear? Fine guys, thanks for your understanding, let's move on - there's the Deposit button up there."
What normal company and in what industry could pull something like this off, all at the same time, without customers protesting, running away in rows, and possibly suing them? Name one!
It's not like we all got rich before, most of us lost before. How easy it is for them to get through the front door with such an awesome thing without being bothered really still amazes me.
That's exactly how it looks...RTP reduced by 2% means nothing other than that you theoretically get 2% less salary... and that for worse performance. Although this is sold as a great innovation, it has been made worse at the expense of the customer... and the worst thing is that hardly anyone notices it...
I loved playing there. I still find the game selection top
Where I'm not sure with them but also more, so far vpn was always allowed... have there the one or other blueprint games gezockt... probably quietly and secretly the terms and conditions are still adapted that this will no longer be allowed. I would trust it...
And what can I recommend? Currently sunnyplayer and sunmaker, always good and fair bonus and also pay out within 12 hours. Then Platincasino, which also pays out ratzfatz, once verified
Favorite is grad Frank and Fred... game selection is ok, but do not have everything... payout is also fixed within 6 hours...what I like there, at levelanstieg gibts free spins, you turn the amount on the bonus wheel. I think from level 10 the free spins are then super games. Are usually between 1 and 10, but 1-2.50 euros per spin. Often comes out 0, but for when times what is won, you often have a basis for playing.
And bethard I also play from time to time. Although few bonus offers and no png, but the fastest payout ever. Payout generally can not be canceled and payout by MuchBetter dauernts between 5 seconds and an hour
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 08/12/2019 at 11:49 pm
You're casually putting a "only" at the beginning of that sentence, as if it's just some unimportant detail, like a different colored spin button.
But asked the other way around, WHAT THE f**kING HELL can be more important in gaming than just this Return to Player percentage!!!!
Sure, they "only" lowered the RTP, no big deal, before it was just TOO easy to bring out thousands of Euros every month, now it's just 1-2k, but VS doesn't go bankrupt...or how do you mean that?
But people so it is not, if one leads oneself this whole process times before eyes, then one must ask oneself nevertheless actually seriously the question, how it can be possible, which a store announces something so publicly and pulls through, without which a large outcry goes by the Zockerlager, without which the players remain row by row away from protest etc. etc.. Because that's what it's all about, you play (actually, at least it used to be that way) to win something, and they just say ...... ... ... .
Like lemmings are here some, no shit...... ... ...
One of the most important contributions to it. Exactly so it is nähmlich
Brain off with own money, but the main thing "cool battles" and BlaBla free games daddeln. Hooray.
In the end, it's up to everyone whether he wants to be a "lemming"
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Quippie wrote on 08/13/2019 00:15 PM
Favorite is grad Frank and Fred... game selection is ok, but don't have everything...
Right, quite ok the store. I have also tested a short time ago
So, and Videoslots can check me out... the Source of Wealth document was verified yesterday, everything ok, this morning this in the mailbox:
Thank you for sending the Source of Wealth declaration form.
As a casino operator licensed within the EU, we have a regulatory obligation to ensure that the funds used by our customers are legitimate.
After reviewing the form, we noticed that you spent xxxxxx EUR with us, but reported earnings of xxxxxx EUR and savings of xxxxx, which requires further explanation.
Therefore, please send us documents explaining where the money you spent with us came from. This can be, for example, a payslip and bank statement confirming that the transaction was received by you, or any other type of document explaining where the funds spent with us came from.
If you have any difficulties or are unable to send this information, please contact us.
What upsets me about this is the fact that you now come along and make a big deal about player protection. Even if the deposits were reduced. While you have lost a lot, they are not interested in it. Who really works seriously, asks before a Deposit about the income and then determines the value itself
If I buy a car, then is also asked beforehand about my income, before the credit limit and loan amount is determined
At the latest now I can also understand some chargebackers. Not because I like it, but because I the hypocrisy aufn spirit goes
Quippie wrote on 08/13/2019 at 10:07 am: So, and Videoslots can check me out... the Source of Wealth document was verified yesterday, everything ok, this morning this in the mailbox:
Thank you for sending the Source of Wealth declaration form.
As a casino operator licensed within the EU, we have a regulatory obligation to ensure that the funds used by our customers are legitimate.
After reviewing the form, we noticed that you spent xxxxxx EUR with us, but reported earnings of xxxxxx EUR and savings of xxxxx, which requires further explanation.
Therefore, please send us documents explaining where the money you spent with us came from. This can be, for example, a salary statement and bank statement confirming that the transaction was received by you, or any other type of document explaining where the funds spent with us came from.
If you have any difficulties or are unable to send this information, please contact us.
What upsets me about this is the fact that you now come along and make a big deal about player protection. Even if the deposits were reduced. While you have lost a lot, they are not interested in it. Who really works seriously, asks before a Deposit about the income and then determines the value itself
If I buy a car, then also before my income is asked, before the credit limit and credit amount is determined
At the latest now I can also understand some chargebackers. Not because I like it, but because I'm the hypocrisy onn spirit goes
It's just that they really can't do that much about it except to request before a deposit and handle the process quickly. The UKGC is constantly encouraging this and the MGA is following suit, more and more sensitive data is being requested and the danger of over-regulation is already present today where casinos are in constant fear of doing something wrong and directly receiving millions in fines.
The UKGC has already made adjustments that one is warned before depositing that possibly a check takes place and the Verification must take place directly to counter delays in the payout. If someone now deposits more, they have to react otherwise there is trouble and that is quite expensive. The casinos earn good sums, but must constantly very much abdrücken and set aside. You must not overestimate their income, are not poverty children but so rich that can pay millions every time most casinos are not.
1.12 million € penalty have put Videoslots in horror and they had to immediately restructure the whole bonus systems, the high taxes of some countries were suddenly a problem and they set the slot RTP down (at the providers where it went) and the loyalty department is actually no longer there. Now everything runs over the wheels.
I can understand your frustration though, whenever it is inconvenient these things come and then everything nicely one after the other.
Kleinkariert wrote on 08/13/2019 at 10:52 AM
It's just that they really can't do that much about it other than request before making a deposit and handle the process quickly. The UKGC is constantly encouraging this and the MGA is following suit, more and more sensitive data is being requested and the Risk of over-regulation is already present where casinos are in constant fear of doing anything wrong and being fined millions directly.
The UKGC has already made adjustments that one is warned before depositing that possibly a check takes place and the Verification must take place directly to counter delays in the payout. If someone now deposits more, they have to react otherwise there is trouble and that is quite expensive. The casinos earn good sums, but must constantly very much abdrücken and set aside. You must not overestimate their income, are not poverty children but so rich that can pay millions every time most casinos are not.
1.12 million € penalty have put Videoslots in horror and they had to immediately restructure the whole bonus systems, the high taxes of some countries were suddenly a problem and they set the slot RTP down (at the providers where it went) and the loyalty department is actually no longer there. Now everything runs over the wheels.
Regarding this sentence I have to write something here. It sounds as if the UKGC or MGA has something to do with the higher tax rates. This is of course not the case. It is about higher taxes in the Scandinavian countries. This CAN pass a casino so to the players (with the lowered RTP), but it MUST not. Here I have to use the Betsson Group again as a comparison. This is particularly strong in the Scandinavian countries (the group was also founded there), so has exactly the same "problems" with these taxes, but has NOT passed them on to the players in contrast to Videoslots.
So Videoslots would not have had to do this, but they have and they have done so quietly. Many of the players who play there, still do not know that they play there with less RTP these games and a large part of the users here, it has also only had noticed back then, when someone had posted this here.
The whole behavior on the part of Videoslots in this case is, in my opinion, just very questionable and I'm sticking to that
Kleinkariert wrote on 08/13/2019 at 10:52 AM
It's just that they really can't do that much about it other than request before making a deposit and handle the process quickly. The UKGC is constantly encouraging this and the MGA is following suit, more and more sensitive data is being requested and the Risk of over-regulation is already present where casinos are in constant fear of doing anything wrong and being fined millions directly.
The UKGC has already made adjustments that you are warned before depositing that possibly a check takes place and the Verification must take place directly to counter delays in the payout. If someone now deposits more, they have to react otherwise there is trouble and that is quite expensive. The casinos earn good sums, but must constantly very much abdrücken and set aside. You must not overestimate their income, are not poverty children but so rich that can pay millions every time most casinos are not.
1.12 million € penalty have put Videoslots in horror and they had to immediately restructure the whole bonus systems, the high taxes of some countries were suddenly a problem and they set the slot RTP down (at the providers where it went) and the loyalty department is actually no longer there. Now everything runs over the wheels.
I can understand your frustration though, whenever it is inconvenient these things come and then everything nicely one after the other.
Thanks for the explanation. In some things you probably know better than I do
And agree completely that such things must be done BEFORE the first deposit. Videoslots is no exception. Only with them it upsets me the most, because there probably the mechanisms take effect too late or it was previously quite indifferent to how much you have deposited. Then please also immediately limit deposits from their side until everything is there. But taking money, that's what they do
Probably you could Deposit 5000 Euro at once and they would take it... if 100 Euro of it is paid out, then they would refuse. What would happen if you don't want to send a proof? Do you get the 5000 Euro back? Theoretically, yes, they do not know where the money comes from?
You could try it, write to them, you have bet money, which you did not have, so to my knowledge it can even be demanded. Is but perhaps only half knowledge, but my once to have heard something like that
That those who have a profit flow there or have a fairly balanced balance sheet feel well taken care of there is also understandable, because I myself have never had anything come through Videoslots. I never had much contact with them, because everything was smooth. But the more contact you have with them, the more evasive and put-off answers you get.
Since I praise me now really other casinos. Zb falls me there the noaccount casino. That had already requested a few months ago and quite close to the registration documents, whether you can afford to play. And there I had deposited a total of quite little (about 500) and paid out almost the same amount.
Ludio wrote on 08/13/2019 at 11:12 AM
Regarding this sentence, I have to add something here. It sounds just as if the UKGC or MGA has something to do with the higher tax rates. This is of course not the case. It is about higher taxes in the Scandinavian countries. This CAN pass a casino so to the players (with the lowered RTP), but it MUST not. Here I have to use the Betsson Group again as a comparison. This is particularly strong in the Scandinavian countries (the group was also founded there), so has exactly the same "problems" with these taxes, but has NOT passed them on to the players in contrast to Videoslots.
So Videoslots would not have had to do this, but they have and they have done so quietly. Many of the players who play there, still do not know that they play there with less RTP these games and a large part of the users here, it has also only had noticed back then, when someone had posted this here.
The whole behavior on the part of Videoslots in this case, in my opinion, is just very questionable and I'm sticking to that
That's right, I did not know until today that the rtp is reduced and's only learned here. Even when asked whether this is true Videoslots has given no answer, which in itself is cheeky (Peter B. from the Videoslots chat I take times out, with which you get sometimes really answer).
Of course, they have the right to design their casino as they want it. But then only the "great" Clash of Spins" to advertise, but at the same time do not point to lowered values, is fraud
And whoever says otherwise, of course also accepts when a bank increases the overdraft interest without notice, when the car Insurance increases, when the fixed network contracts increase, etc., etc...
Normally, everyone MUST receive a notification, EU-wide and not only in Germany. After that, everyone can pick out again whether he wants to remain a customer or not.
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You loosely put a "only" at the beginning of that sentence, as if that was just some unimportant detail, like a different colored spin button.
But the other way around, WHAT THE f**kING HELL can be more important than this Return to Player percentage?
Sure, they "only" lowered the RTP, no big deal, before it was just TOO easy to bring out thousands of Euros every month, now it's just 1-2k, but VS doesn't go bankrupt...or how do you mean that?
But people so it is not, if one leads oneself this whole procedure times before eyes, then one must ask oneself nevertheless actually seriously the question, how it can be possible, that a store announces something so publicly and pulls through, without which a large outcry goes by the Zockerlager, without which the players remain row by row away from protest etc. etc.. Because that's what it's all about, you're playing (actually, at least it used to be that way) to win something, and they just say
"Oh by the way, from now on you simply win less with us. But that doesn't matter, we have a surprise for you: In the future, you only have to wager 5x (yes, only five times) as much as before to be allowed to take part in the battles like
But don't worry, there are less freespins to win than before.
And by the way, the regular email promos with 24-hour battle tickets and freespins will also be dropped from now on, of course. Everything clear? Fine guys, thanks for your understanding, let's move on - there's the Deposit button up there."
What normal company and in what industry could pull something like this off, all at the same time, without customers protesting, running away in rows, and possibly suing them? Name one!
It's not like we all got rich before, most of us lost before. How easy it is for them to get through the front door with such an awesome thing without being bothered really still amazes me.
How the lemmings are here some, without shit...
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I loved playing there. I still find the game selection top
Where I'm not sure with them but also more, so far vpn was always allowed... have there the one or other blueprint games gezockt... probably quietly and secretly the terms and conditions are still adapted that this will no longer be allowed. I would trust it...
And what can I recommend? Currently sunnyplayer and sunmaker, always good and fair bonus and also pay out within 12 hours. Then Platincasino, which also pays out ratzfatz, once verified
Favorite is grad Frank and Fred... game selection is ok, but do not have everything... payout is also fixed within 6 hours...what I like there, at levelanstieg gibts free spins, you turn the amount on the bonus wheel. I think from level 10 the free spins are then super games. Are usually between 1 and 10, but 1-2.50 euros per spin. Often comes out 0, but for when times what is won, you often have a basis for playing.
And bethard I also play from time to time. Although few bonus offers and no png, but the fastest payout ever. Payout generally can not be canceled and payout by MuchBetter dauernts between 5 seconds and an hour
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One of the most important contributions to it. Exactly so it is nähmlich
Brain off with own money, but the main thing "cool battles" and BlaBla free games daddeln. Hooray.
In the end, it's up to everyone whether he wants to be a "lemming"
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Right, quite ok the store. I have also tested a short time ago
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Thank you for sending the Source of Wealth declaration form.
As a casino operator licensed within the EU, we have a regulatory obligation to ensure that the funds used by our customers are legitimate.
After reviewing the form, we noticed that you spent xxxxxx EUR with us, but reported earnings of xxxxxx EUR and savings of xxxxx, which requires further explanation.
Therefore, please send us documents explaining where the money you spent with us came from. This can be, for example, a payslip and bank statement confirming that the transaction was received by you, or any other type of document explaining where the funds spent with us came from.
If you have any difficulties or are unable to send this information, please contact us.
What upsets me about this is the fact that you now come along and make a big deal about player protection. Even if the deposits were reduced. While you have lost a lot, they are not interested in it. Who really works seriously, asks before a Deposit about the income and then determines the value itself
If I buy a car, then is also asked beforehand about my income, before the credit limit and loan amount is determined
At the latest now I can also understand some chargebackers. Not because I like it, but because I the hypocrisy aufn spirit goes
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It's just that they really can't do that much about it except to request before a deposit and handle the process quickly. The UKGC is constantly encouraging this and the MGA is following suit, more and more sensitive data is being requested and the danger of over-regulation is already present today where casinos are in constant fear of doing something wrong and directly receiving millions in fines.
The UKGC has already made adjustments that one is warned before depositing that possibly a check takes place and the Verification must take place directly to counter delays in the payout. If someone now deposits more, they have to react otherwise there is trouble and that is quite expensive. The casinos earn good sums, but must constantly very much abdrücken and set aside. You must not overestimate their income, are not poverty children but so rich that can pay millions every time most casinos are not.
1.12 million € penalty have put Videoslots in horror and they had to immediately restructure the whole bonus systems, the high taxes of some countries were suddenly a problem and they set the slot RTP down (at the providers where it went) and the loyalty department is actually no longer there. Now everything runs over the wheels.
I can understand your frustration though, whenever it is inconvenient these things come and then everything nicely one after the other.
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Regarding this sentence I have to write something here. It sounds as if the UKGC or MGA has something to do with the higher tax rates. This is of course not the case. It is about higher taxes in the Scandinavian countries. This CAN pass a casino so to the players (with the lowered RTP), but it MUST not. Here I have to use the Betsson Group again as a comparison. This is particularly strong in the Scandinavian countries (the group was also founded there), so has exactly the same "problems" with these taxes, but has NOT passed them on to the players in contrast to Videoslots.
So Videoslots would not have had to do this, but they have and they have done so quietly. Many of the players who play there, still do not know that they play there with less RTP these games and a large part of the users here, it has also only had noticed back then, when someone had posted this here.
The whole behavior on the part of Videoslots in this case is, in my opinion, just very questionable and I'm sticking to that
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Thanks for the explanation. In some things you probably know better than I do
And agree completely that such things must be done BEFORE the first deposit. Videoslots is no exception. Only with them it upsets me the most, because there probably the mechanisms take effect too late or it was previously quite indifferent to how much you have deposited. Then please also immediately limit deposits from their side until everything is there. But taking money, that's what they do
Probably you could Deposit 5000 Euro at once and they would take it... if 100 Euro of it is paid out, then they would refuse. What would happen if you don't want to send a proof? Do you get the 5000 Euro back? Theoretically, yes, they do not know where the money comes from?
You could try it, write to them, you have bet money, which you did not have, so to my knowledge it can even be demanded. Is but perhaps only half knowledge, but my once to have heard something like that
That those who have a profit flow there or have a fairly balanced balance sheet feel well taken care of there is also understandable, because I myself have never had anything come through Videoslots. I never had much contact with them, because everything was smooth. But the more contact you have with them, the more evasive and put-off answers you get.
Since I praise me now really other casinos. Zb falls me there the noaccount casino. That had already requested a few months ago and quite close to the registration documents, whether you can afford to play. And there I had deposited a total of quite little (about 500) and paid out almost the same amount.
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That's right, I did not know until today that the rtp is reduced and's only learned here. Even when asked whether this is true Videoslots has given no answer, which in itself is cheeky (Peter B. from the Videoslots chat I take times out, with which you get sometimes really answer).
Of course, they have the right to design their casino as they want it. But then only the "great" Clash of Spins" to advertise, but at the same time do not point to lowered values, is fraud
And whoever says otherwise, of course also accepts when a bank increases the overdraft interest without notice, when the car Insurance increases, when the fixed network contracts increase, etc., etc...
Normally, everyone MUST receive a notification, EU-wide and not only in Germany. After that, everyone can pick out again whether he wants to remain a customer or not.
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