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Off topic & small talk: Current Topic CoronaVirus / Opinion, Exchange (Page 79)

Topic created on 27th Feb. 2020 | Page: 79 of 94 | Answers: 939 | Views: 142,793
Simbda
Top Member
ruhrpott wrote on 14.12.2020 at 22:25
The fact that at the moment is again restricted say even I, as directly affected, is completely correct and logical.
Who does not see the current situation of the hospitals and generally the diffuse happening or thinks that this would not be so, has in my eyes really the ass open.

To criticize is however that e.g. promised assistance were still not paid out. That must not be, even if of course the policy has no patent remedy for such a pandemic.

But hey, Sweden is a great idea for you. When you are there, write here in the forum that everything is not as great as it seemed in the meantime All those who thought Sweden was on the right track at the time should have noticed by NOW that everything is by no means so rosy there anymore.

How do you know about the hospitals? Do you look at the news or directly at divi intensivregiester?

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Simbda
Top Member
Begbie wrote on 12/15/2020 at 08:47 AM
https://www.corodok.de/genauso-intensivbetten-august/

There were almost as few ICU patients on September 17 (22,299) and August 21, 2020 (22,079), respectively, as there were on December 10, 2020 (22,542)...

No worsening of the situation.



https://www.corodok.de/studie-muenchener-uni/

No excess mortality in under-70s.


Simbda



The lethality of Corona victims is 83.1 years.
Two years above the statistical average.



So, and now your arguments.

Correct

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Blubbo33
Elite
Begbie wrote on 12/15/2020 at 08:47 AM
https://www.corodok.de/genauso-intensivbetten-august/

There were almost as few ICU patients on September 17 (22,299) and August 21, 2020 (22,079), respectively, as there were on December 10, 2020 (22,542)...

No exacerbation of the situation.



https://www.corodok.de/studie-muenchener-uni/

No excess mortality in under-70s.


Blubbo33



The lethality of Corona victims is 83.1 years.
Two years above the statistical average.



So, and now your arguments.

It is not only about the deaths. With the help of our good doctors, many many lives were saved that do not appear in your statistics

And I can't imagine that you would like to lie on the intensive care for 1 to 2 weeks with a tube in your throat

So to downplay covid is really far from any reality.

ALL pictures say something else.

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Begbie
Elite
I am not downplaying Corona. In individual cases, of course, Covid-19 disease can be very bad, even fatal.
As with many other viral diseases.
A cost/benefit analysis reveals an absolutely disproportionate imbalance.

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Simbda
Top Member
Begbie wrote on 12/15/2020 at 09:13: I am not downplaying Corona. In individual cases, of course, Covid-19 disease can be very bad, even fatal.
As with many other viral diseases.
A cost/benefit analysis reveals an absolutely disproportionate skew.

We could organize every year such a thing here as now by the crib, there crows no cock after how many people die from it and in the Kh are and were. Since one never heard what 2017/18 over 25000 in Germany. Now there's only Covid

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Iknowyou
Experienced
Take the tweet from our ex-national goalkeeper Mr. Lehmann.
He tweeted that we currently have as many Corona deaths as in 2017 during the severe flu.
And therefore Corona would be made bigger than it would be. (So I interpret times his statement).

But what is not taken into account at all in this statement is that we not only wear mouth guards all year round but also have distance rules as well as hygiene measures that we implement privately and also the stores
Many sources of fire are no longer there, such as discos or the like

Imagine how it would look in Germany or the mortality rate would be or the hospitals would be overloaded, if all these measures had not been taken
Then there would be so many infected that the badly ill could no longer be treated in hospitals, because there would be too many

All these measures did not exist in 2017 for the severe flu.

This alone shows that Covid is much worse than an ordinary flu.

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Blubbo33
Elite
Begbie wrote on 12/15/2020 at 09:13: I am not downplaying Corona. In individual cases, of course, Covid-19 disease can be very bad, even fatal.
As with many other viral diseases.
A cost/benefit analysis reveals an absolutely disproportionate skew.

I see differently, since a human life is not to be counted up with money
Unfortunately, many Germans have to suffer themselves or in their families to understand how serious the situation is

Covid is not a "normal" viral disease.

I would rather accept unemployment than let my parents die to give a plausible example

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Blubbo33
Elite
Of course people also die from flu, but honestly, do you not want to see that or what is missing with you to not recognize how dangerous and dramatic the situation is ?

The doctors and nurses are just working their asses off to save lives and possibly Risk their own lives to do so.

And you come with the comparison of a normal flu. Oh man, just deplorable.

Ask the family of the cross-thinker organizer who died of covid if they still think the demos make sense

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Anonym
Many people were not aware of this. I worked in the hospital and I know that, as a precaution, a whole ward was rebuilt in co19 in the summer. I know that they were expecting a strong return

I can also tell a lot about the situation in old people's homes, but that is beyond the scope of this article

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Simbda
Top Member
Blubbo33 wrote on 15.12.2020 at 09:39: Of course people also die from flu, but honestly, do you not want to see that or what is missing with you to not realize how dangerous and dramatic the situation is ?

The doctors and nurses are working their asses off right now to save lives and possibly Risk their own lives to do so.

And you come with the comparison of a normal flu. Oh man, just deplorable.

Ask the family of the cross-thinker organizer who died of covid if they still think the demos make sense.

I stop here to discuss. He did not die of covid. Just happen to be in one of the groups. People who do not question and believe everything that comes in the news. Sorry everyone should believe what he wants.

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