I can not understand why we are always compared with Italy...that is absurd.
How long the virus rages with us, and how many dead we have...until yesterday it was 194.
The one tells that soon 15K+ will die daily...since one can only grab his head.
Manchnal I wonder how some people get through life.
upola wrote on 25.03.2020 at 10:12: I can not understand why we are always compared with Italy...that is absurd.
How long the virus rages with us, and how many dead we have...until yesterday it was 194.
The one tells that soon 15K+ will die daily...there you can only grab your head.
Manchnal I wonder how some people get through life.
You are already clear that the 15k are related to the whole world?
In the USA now by the Corona crisis every citizen gets 1200 dollars and every child 500 dollars from the state as a gift. Too bad that here is not thought about it in politics. That would be ne great thing so a Zubrot.
Falko wrote on 25.03.2020 at 19:10 clock: In the U.S. gets now by the Corona crisis each citizen 1200 dollars and each child 500 dollars from the state. Too bad that here is not thought about it in politics. That would be ne great thing so a Zubrot.
Hmmm, questionable whether this helicopter money really brings the economy back on its feet🤷♂️🤷♂️🤔
Sweden does not seem to be in panic, but yes, I know what comes now again.... and for it I need no crystal ball:
Now come again comments about: oh, there will be the dead also still pile up on the street......
wait and see
what I observe is that intensively renowned doctors who say they do not understand the current hype are massively torn apart by the media, but I do not see a professional dialogue between two explorers/scientists/virologists who openly discuss their different views.
It is not only Dr. Wodarg, who was never denied his expertise until his Corona statements,
If it were only Dr Wodarg who is skeptical of the current measures, one could simply dismiss it, but the voices of the critics are increasing.
Other specialists and virologists have joined Dr Wodarg and were also massively attacked, I am not looking for all out now, you can do yourself
also on the following side all does not sound sooo terrible at all
Source :
https://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/gesundheit/Coronavirus-Fragen-und-Antworten,corona100.html
How dangerous is an infection with the new coronavirus?
Quote from:
This cannot be conclusively assessed at present. The Robert Koch Institute (RKI) classifies the risk assessment for the health of the population in Germany since March 17 as high. It is a very dynamic and serious situation worldwide and in Germany. In 80 percent of cases, the course of the disease is mild to moderate. In some cases, however, the course of the disease is severe, and there are also fatal cases. Overall, the course of the disease varies greatly. Also the Federal center for health clearing-up refers to figures of the World Health Organization WHO, according to which about four of five illnesses proceed mildly.
The much-cited RKI expresses itself the following:
"The president of the German Robert Koch Institute confirmed that the RKI records all test-positive deaths, regardless of the true cause of death, as "corona deaths" . The average age of deaths is 82 years, most with pre-existing conditions, he said.
MOMENT: WHAT IS HE SAYING???? regardless of the REAL cause of death????🤔🤔🤔🤔
HOW do you understand THIS now???
someone gets hit by a car, falls off a ladder, dies of a stroke, they are automatically listed as a Corona victim?
hmmm, then I can pay of course that the numbers will increase
wasn't it the same in Italy?
Quote:
Professor Karin Mölling, former director of the Institute of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich: No killer virus, stop scaremongering.
The U.K. has removed Covid19 from its list of dangerous infectious diseases, saying mortality rates are "low overall."
In Italy, the overall national mortality rate for the 65+ age group up to March 7 was even lower than in previous years; this was particularly due to the mild winter."
https://swprs.org/covid-19-hinweis-ii/
in general it is called to report comments and reports that would trivialize the virus
i don't search that out now, the pages where you can report something like that you can find quickly thanks to google itself
while Mathias Döpfner, head of Axel Springer Verlag said the following in the "Welt "on 23.03.20
about the role of the media in the crisis:
"Journalists are - under acceptance of special personal risks - what they have not been for a long time. Our window on the world. Our filter of truth. They have an enormous responsibility. And I think: All in all, they live up to this responsibility in an impressive way. [...] But nothing must change about the mission of journalists, even in a crisis. Especially not then. They should continue to doubt and question. What is needed now is not only solidarity and public spirit, but also criticism. And above all, diversity of information and opinions. We don't need centralized propaganda, but a competition of critical intelligence. Perhaps the crisis will also make us more aware of the value of independent journalism."
The Tagesschau comes up with rather dramatic titles, such as:
We are only at thebeginning of a pandemic
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/pandemie-101.html
( please note, comments have been disabled)
and: the head of the WHO is not that uncontroversial either
https://www.saechsische.de/dr-tedros-bewaeltigt-sein-kindheitstrauma-3690407.html
Conclusion:
-on the one hand, the opinions of various scientists on the subject of corona are in awesome contrast
-the numbers vary depending on the source
-on the other hand criminal consequences are demanded by politicians for any reporting which is not conform and approved
-while the boss of the Axel Springer publishing house supports free and differentiated reporting
one becomes from all sides with info regelrecht " infoziert"
however only one opinion is officially tolerated
everything only to our best and our protection
very many celebrities, politicians, footballers, politicians seems to have caught it also
and no, Greta has no Corona Virus, she THOUGHT she had it, but she didn't get tested, isolated herself for 2 weeks and recovered
@upola: ☺️yes, was shopping today too, there is still no toilet paper, but there were still quite a few alive people out and about
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There is ONE more thing I would like to mention:
i have already criticized that the policy does not think of people who are starving in a minimum income, ie Hartz 4 recipients, people who have to keep afloat with several mini-jobs, pensioners, who are dependent on the table due to small pensions and high rents, etc., etc
that is in itself very very shameful!!!!
but what really the very last is that around homeless zero is cared for, the elected representatives of the people but in the praise of their corporate aid bask and as benefactors can be celebrated
that is decadent, arrogant and inhuman, because the problem of homelessness was anyway, despite rising numbers, ignored
finally, one more question:
is the Debt clock broken???
is it going backwards?
why????
-517 per second???
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How long the virus rages with us, and how many dead we have...until yesterday it was 194.
The one tells that soon 15K+ will die daily...since one can only grab his head.
Manchnal I wonder how some people get through life.
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You are already clear that the 15k are related to the whole world?
And yes I see it as realistic
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I hope that you are right !
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Hmmm, questionable whether this helicopter money really brings the economy back on its feet🤷♂️🤷♂️🤔
Mal bit of reading about it HELICOPTER MONEY
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aha, I see
you FIND official sources so bullshit
so of course it will be, if YOU find that....yo, fully logical😁
do you have your own surveys?studies?
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2020-03/coronavirus-schweden-stockholm-oeffentliches-leben
Sweden does not seem to be in panic, but yes, I know what comes now again.... and for it I need no crystal ball:
Now come again comments about: oh, there will be the dead also still pile up on the street......
wait and see
what I observe is that intensively renowned doctors who say they do not understand the current hype are massively torn apart by the media, but I do not see a professional dialogue between two explorers/scientists/virologists who openly discuss their different views.
It is not only Dr. Wodarg, who was never denied his expertise until his Corona statements,
If it were only Dr Wodarg who is skeptical of the current measures, one could simply dismiss it, but the voices of the critics are increasing.
Other specialists and virologists have joined Dr Wodarg and were also massively attacked, I am not looking for all out now, you can do yourself
Jessica Hamed :
https://www.fr.de/politik/coronakrise-deutschland-sind-kontaktsperren-ausgangsbeschraenkungen-rechtswidrig-13611821.html
also on the following side all does not sound sooo terrible at all
Source :
https://www.ndr.de/ratgeber/gesundheit/Coronavirus-Fragen-und-Antworten,corona100.html
How dangerous is an infection with the new coronavirus?
Quote from:
This cannot be conclusively assessed at present. The Robert Koch Institute (RKI) classifies the risk assessment for the health of the population in Germany since March 17 as high. It is a very dynamic and serious situation worldwide and in Germany. In 80 percent of cases, the course of the disease is mild to moderate. In some cases, however, the course of the disease is severe, and there are also fatal cases. Overall, the course of the disease varies greatly. Also the Federal center for health clearing-up refers to figures of the World Health Organization WHO, according to which about four of five illnesses proceed mildly.
https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article206783949/Coronavirus-RKI-rechtfertigt-sich-und-haelt-sich-dann-konsequent-zurueck.html
The much-cited RKI expresses itself the following:
"The president of the German Robert Koch Institute confirmed that the RKI records all test-positive deaths, regardless of the true cause of death, as "corona deaths" . The average age of deaths is 82 years, most with pre-existing conditions, he said.
MOMENT: WHAT IS HE SAYING???? regardless of the REAL cause of death????🤔🤔🤔🤔
HOW do you understand THIS now???
someone gets hit by a car, falls off a ladder, dies of a stroke, they are automatically listed as a Corona victim?
hmmm, then I can pay of course that the numbers will increase
wasn't it the same in Italy?
Quote:
Professor Karin Mölling, former director of the Institute of Medical Virology at the University of Zurich: No killer virus, stop scaremongering.
The U.K. has removed Covid19 from its list of dangerous infectious diseases, saying mortality rates are "low overall."
In Italy, the overall national mortality rate for the 65+ age group up to March 7 was even lower than in previous years; this was particularly due to the mild winter."
https://swprs.org/covid-19-hinweis-ii/
in general it is called to report comments and reports that would trivialize the virus
i don't search that out now, the pages where you can report something like that you can find quickly thanks to google itself
penalties are demanded for Fake News
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/coronavirus-boris-pistorius-fordert-strafen-gegen-fake-news-a-ed5050b5-c194-4890-a4c3-c713290134f3
while Mathias Döpfner, head of Axel Springer Verlag said the following in the "Welt "on 23.03.20
about the role of the media in the crisis:
"Journalists are - under acceptance of special personal risks - what they have not been for a long time. Our window on the world. Our filter of truth. They have an enormous responsibility. And I think: All in all, they live up to this responsibility in an impressive way. [...] But nothing must change about the mission of journalists, even in a crisis. Especially not then. They should continue to doubt and question. What is needed now is not only solidarity and public spirit, but also criticism. And above all, diversity of information and opinions. We don't need centralized propaganda, but a competition of critical intelligence. Perhaps the crisis will also make us more aware of the value of independent journalism."
The Tagesschau comes up with rather dramatic titles, such as:
We are only at thebeginning of a pandemic
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/pandemie-101.html
( please note, comments have been disabled)
and: the head of the WHO is not that uncontroversial either
https://www.saechsische.de/dr-tedros-bewaeltigt-sein-kindheitstrauma-3690407.html
Conclusion:
-on the one hand, the opinions of various scientists on the subject of corona are in awesome contrast
-the numbers vary depending on the source
-on the other hand criminal consequences are demanded by politicians for any reporting which is not conform and approved
-while the boss of the Axel Springer publishing house supports free and differentiated reporting
one becomes from all sides with info regelrecht " infoziert"
however only one opinion is officially tolerated
everything only to our best and our protection
very many celebrities, politicians, footballers, politicians seems to have caught it also
and no, Greta has no Corona Virus, she THOUGHT she had it, but she didn't get tested, isolated herself for 2 weeks and recovered
@upola: ☺️yes, was shopping today too, there is still no toilet paper, but there were still quite a few alive people out and about
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i have already criticized that the policy does not think of people who are starving in a minimum income, ie Hartz 4 recipients, people who have to keep afloat with several mini-jobs, pensioners, who are dependent on the table due to small pensions and high rents, etc., etc
that is in itself very very shameful!!!!
but what really the very last is that around homeless zero is cared for, the elected representatives of the people but in the praise of their corporate aid bask and as benefactors can be celebrated
that is decadent, arrogant and inhuman, because the problem of homelessness was anyway, despite rising numbers, ignored
finally, one more question:
is the Debt clock broken???
is it going backwards?
why????
-517 per second???
https://www.haushaltssteuerung.de/schuldenuhr-deutschland.html
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there are now too many indications that speak for it...
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how good that the health policy has everything kaputtgespart, there one is yes Best prepared!
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