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Conspiracy theories: No more desire for the OC business model (Page 2)

Topic created on 28th Jun. 2019 | Page: 2 of 3 | Answers: 20 | Views: 4,666
Simbda
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No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 04:16 pm CEST#11
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Manfrede4 wrote on 06/28/2019 at 15:54: I have another theory.
Question 1 Why do we lose almost only.
I am exaggerating a bit now.
If I advertise for casinos, I get so I imagine that of each customer money I have recruited new.I play then of course with other sums than a Ottonormalspieler wins then also times right and the others look stupid from the laundry.
I play on 20 cent win e.g. 200Euro and then play higher and very quickly my money is gone again.It is difficult to make a judgment whether a casino cheats or not.Sometimes I think to myself that can not be that I e.g. 100 Euro used on 1 Euro play and in felt 10 minutes, the money is gone.Then I win times right let's say 1000Euro and instead of pay out I want to have of course 10000 "Greed".And suddenly everything is gone again.
So we forget then mostly and insinuate the casinos that they cheat.

True, I think almost everyone looks like that. But when do you win? Currently, I can be happy when I play that I can double the stake of 10 € to pay out but I somehow do not get there

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Cole666
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No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 05:00 pm CEST#12
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If we are honest, what business or company bases its business on whether the customer is lucky or not

I don't think they leave the success of their business to chance

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 06:13 pm CEST#13
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Cole666 wrote on 06/28/2019 5:00 PM: If we're being honest, what business or company bases their business on whether the customer is lucky or not

Hardly think they leave the success of their business to chance.

They don't do that either. Every game has a house advantage. The only things they need are enough players, enough time and enough capital to be able to compensate for temporary outliers. The win for the casino automatically comes from the 3-6% or even more house edge.

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 07:50 pm CEST#14
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Jhahn wrote on 06/28/2019 6:13 PM
They don't do that either. Every game has a house advantage. The only thing they need is enough players, enough time and enough capital to be able to compensate for intermediate outliers. The win for the casino automatically comes from the 3-6% or even more house advantage.

That's exactly how I see it!

15 months ago at the beginning, when I started with OCs, I had also times wins of 1,500€ with only 20s deposit.

In the meantime, I automatically pay in 100s, because I can no longer tear with small deposits.

This can quickly degenerate into shit

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 08:05 pm CEST#15
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biqbozz77 wrote on 06/28/2019 09:50: I personally don't think most casinos cheat. I rather think that they don't want to acknowledge loss stretches and then look for an explanation

If one has been incredibly lucky, then one is satisfied. If one had incredible bad luck, then it is not only "bad luck" but "fraud". But both are part of the game of chance. That is my opinion about it.



Well, if I'm honest, then I have to admit that to myself

The many big wins over the last few months have made me a little addicted, which is why I will take a complete break for now...

You simply can't expect one or two Big Wins over 2K each month, otherwise many would have come out of the misery with a positive account balance

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 09:46 pm CEST#16
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My opinion is quite simple:
No money is generated in the casino, it has to come from somewhere and is not automatically produced there.

The casino takes money from all players who Deposit - shuffles it through and distributes it again

The casino does not print money, so not everyone can win.

Let's imagine that every player spins a slot on €1.00 bet, hundreds or thousands of times.

From each spin, the casino immediately keeps 5% (so about €0.05). That's about the average payout rate.

The casino or the software manufacturer is not interested in the slightest which player wins or who loses.

The casino automatically collects a percentage of each spin.

So if 1 player makes 1000 spins on a slot, the casino immediately keeps 5 cents per spin, so in this case 50 euros. With 1000 players, that's 50,000 euros.

Of course, this is a very simple illustration.

And if you assume extremely high winnings of a player, as shown here in the forum 16,000 euros at DOA with 0.45 € stake, then that means that before or after some thousand players lose times 10 euros to finance such a big win ultimately and make possible.

The players push the money in principle only back and forth - sometimes the one wins, sometimes the other, but before each spin the casino always deducts its share, so the casino wins in any case a share and only redistributes the money among the players.

Therefore, I don't think anyone would be interested in harming a player or letting one win more and the other win less.

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 10:04 pm CEST#17
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I just do not understand one thing...
HOW is it actually possible for an OC to go bankrupt?!

One hears from time to time again and again.

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Ichbins2018
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No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 10:12 pm CEST#18
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cyberstream wrote on 06/28/2019 10:04 PM: I just don't understand one thing...
HOW is it actually possible for an OC to go bust!!!

Hears one yes from time to time again and again.

Counter question, why can casinos pay 100's of thousands or millions in fines for misdemeanors?

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

28th Jun. 2019, at 10:23 pm CEST#19
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 06/28/2019 at 10:12 pm
Counter question, why can casinos pay 100 thousands or millions in fines for misdemeanors?

Another counter question: Why can casinos go bankrupt that have not yet paid a fine ?

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Anonym

No more desire for the OC business model

29th Jun. 2019, at 12:02 am CEST#20
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Gamer777 wrote on 28.06.2019 at 21:46: Times my very simple opinion:
In the casino no money is generated, that must come from where and is not automatically produced there.

The casino takes from all players who Deposit funds - shuffles it through and distributes it again.

The casino does not print money, so not everyone can win.

Let's imagine that every player spins a slot on €1.00 bet, hundreds or thousands of times.

From each spin, the casino immediately keeps 5% (so about €0.05). That's about the average payout rate.

The casino or the software manufacturer is not interested in the slightest which player wins or who loses.

The casino automatically collects a percentage of each spin.

So if 1 player makes 1000 spins on a slot, the casino immediately keeps 5 cents per spin, so in this case 50 euros. With 1000 players, that's 50,000 euros.

Of course, this is a very simple illustration.

And if you assume extremely high winnings of a player, as shown here in the forum 16,000 euros at DOA with 0.45 € stake, then that means that before or after some thousand players lose times 10 euros to finance such a big win ultimately and make possible.

The players push the money in principle only back and forth - sometimes the one wins, sometimes the other, but before each spin the casino always deducts its share, so the casino wins in any case a share and only redistributes the money among the players.

Therefore, I don't think anyone would be interested in harming a player or letting one win more and the other win less.


I find your contribution really very good and also well comprehensible.

Of course, a theory can be put forward here and there, but in the end these are always the same speculations

I think the contribution can actually be closed


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