Random wrote on 05/02/2019 at 21:39
Oh bones, after the thread is soon closed anyway I have no desire to go into more detail.
In the only where I agree with you is that the Rothschilds of course not alone have the power, but that many super rich divide among themselves
How was the FED founded?
How many families in Germany own ALL the media (at least 95%)?
How does our money system work?
Do we live in capitalism, yes or no?
How the FED was founded can be read very well on Wikipedia. Basically, the FED is a central bank with private shareholders, the Rothschilds brought the N**is into play.
The media in Germany sucks and is largely homogenized, that's for sure. But the Rothschild family? Rather the Springer publishing house with the edition to preserve the transatlantic pact and the Bertelsman Foundation are the problem there, right? Above all, it is not forbidden for chief journalists to be in various interest groups. That always creates conflicts of interest between journalism and private or political interests. Nevertheless, most journalists in Germany are free for now. And the mainstream press still reports more neutrally than the modern right-wing press.
How our monetary system works I can explain to you, but not here and not so fast. I recommend simply "Das Kapital" as reading, there basically everything is well explained.
And yes, we even live in ultra-capitalism. Who has money, it is much easier to get even more money than someone who has no money. Companies are especially privileged. I recommend reading up on the Quandt family and how they were able to cheat several billions on taxes without any problems
Ludio wrote on February 05, 2019 at 9:46 pm
https://www.vermoegenmagazin.de/vermoegen-familie-rothschild/
I hope the medium is accepted by you as a source ...
Have you read through the article or just looked at the pretty number? Even IF this sum should be true, for which, by the way, no source is given but it is also only an estimate, that would be a lot, but not the world. Apple has a revenue per year that is about the same. By the way, it is doubtful whether the companies listed are actually in pure family ownership, or actually it is guaranteed that they are not or partly not anymore
Knochen wrote on 02/05/2019 21:46
How the FED was founded can be read very well on Wikipedia. Basically the FED is a central bank with private shareholders, the Rothschilds brought in the N**is.
The media in Germany sucks and is largely homogeneous, that's for sure. But the Rothschild family? Rather the Springer publishing house with the edition to preserve the transatlantic pact and the Bertelsman Foundation are the problem there, right? Above all, it is not forbidden for chief journalists to be in various interest groups. That always creates conflicts of interest between journalism and private or political interests. Nevertheless, most journalists in Germany are free for now. And the mainstream press still reports more neutrally than the modern right-wing press.
How our monetary system works I can explain to you, but not here and not so fast. I recommend simply "Das Kapital" as reading, there basically everything is well explained.
And yes, we even live in ultra-capitalism. Who has money, it is much easier to get even more money than someone who has no money. Companies are especially privileged. I recommend reading up on the Quandt family and how they were able to cheat several billions on taxes without any problems.
Almost everything is wrong.
We do not live in capitalism
We live in cooperatism
Corporations and loobyists use the state to advance their interests
Capitalism means free market economy. This does not exist already by the fact that the state prescribes rules
Most of the time these rules are made as difficult as possible for the small citizen, while a certain size of a company can almost do as it pleases. In Brussels alone there are over 3000 lobbyists
Privatization of water and the like is only possible because the politicians allow it. We are very far away from ultra-capitalism.
Productivity has increased 6-fold since the 1950s
What does that mean? That means that we would have to work only 6 times less to earn the same as someone in the 50s.
But the opposite has happened because the Infaltion in this time has risen by 9 times and thus the purchasing power has fallen extremely.
The dollar alone has lost 98% of its value. How can this be? Because the money flows in a direction and someone must have created this system exactly in such a way. This is robbery of humanity, which would not be possible if all people were enlightened and would not wander with the politically indoctrinated worldview, which you unfortunately to a large extent also still do.
Alone that you Wikipedia as a serious source indicates how far it hacks there still with you.
And the really bad thing is that you can want all this just as little as the rest of the world. Who likes to be robbed?
And capital
Communism is the other side of the coin of nationalism.
Both are systems of domination to exercise control over the little people.
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Random wrote on 02/05/2019 10:01 pm: And capital
Communism is the other side of the coin of nationalism.
Both systems of rule to exert control over the little people.
What is argued about here so extensively is quite amusing. Unfortunately, no one discusses that (whether) it is stupid to Deposit your money in OCs... whether there is a Jewish family behind it or not... I just think that it is really not so super smart to give your money to the casinos...
Random wrote on 05/02/2019 at 22:01: And capital
Communism is the other side of the coin of nationalism.
Both systems of rule to exert control over the little people.
Obviously you haven't read the work, so I guess the recommendation wasn't so bad. Das Kapital is primarily not about communism, but about capitalism. Marx explains very neutrally how capitalism works. You are probably confusing this work with another well-known Marx work "The Manifesto of the Communist Party"
I am not a communist. But to deny Karl Marx expertise on capitalism is hare-brained. By the way, communism according to Marx is also obviously something that you have not grasped to begin with, because otherwise you would realize that in this system, all control comes from the "little people" themselves and thus no power is exercised. At least in the communist utopia according to Marx, which has never taken place, in no state, at no time
I think you mean corporatism. The problem is that corporatism and capitalism do not contradict each other at all, on the contrary, corporatism can only work in the capitalist system. I even agree with you on that point, yet we live in the capitalist system. But whether we are enslaved or not is a difficult question. On the one hand yes, on the other hand it's not as if we don't all benefit from it. Better a dog on a leash than a street dog, so to speak. Our quality of life is good. Of course, every employee first works for his company and not for himself, then everyone pays his taxes and companies and super rich people benefit from our monetary system more than others. Politicians are not the bad guys, nor are refugees, nor are AfD voters
But there are two things that really bother me at the moment.
1: This constant stepping aside. 95% of humanity is in the same boat, actually even more. The refugee from Syria who drowns in the Mediterranean Sea is so much more similar to you than the super rich who travels in a private jet. The large part of humanity is oriented to the side, to the refugees currently especially, who are actually on exactly the same level, instead of upwards. We are all in the same boat and our enemy is not the other poor, it is the super rich
2: Just accept any theory that sounds fascinating. I encounter this phenomenon far too often and I don't know what it is. Probably it is just really more exciting that way?! Not everything what some weirdo tells is equal was, not every internet page is a serious source (Wikipedia is one of the most serious sources by the way). Sure, sometimes the super world conspiracy is more interesting and above all much much easier than the truth. To understand the "truth" you not only have to have something in your head, you have to educate yourself. You have to understand how our monetary system works, how money is generated, how businesses work, how currencies work, what the laws and international laws are. You have to invest a hell of a lot of time to kind of see through it. It's easier to pick up somewhere a banking family owns all the banks and THOSE ON TOP ARE IN DEBT. The simple version is unfortunately rarely the truth in the real world
Bone wrote on February 05, 2019 at 10:44 pm
Obviously you haven't read the work, so I guess the recommendation wasn't that bad. Das Kapital is primarily not about communism, but capitalism. Marx explains very neutrally how capitalism works. You are probably confusing the work here with another well-known Marx work "The Manifesto of the Communist Party"
I am not a communist. But to deny Karl Marx expertise on capitalism is hare-brained. By the way, communism according to Marx is also obviously something that you have not grasped to begin with, because otherwise you would realize that in this system, all control comes from the "little people" themselves and thus no power is exercised. At least in the communist utopia according to Marx, which has never taken place, in no state, at no time
I think you mean corporatism. The problem is that corporatism and capitalism do not contradict each other at all, on the contrary, corporatism can only work in the capitalist system. I even agree with you on that point, yet we live in the capitalist system. But whether we are enslaved or not is a difficult question. On the one hand yes, on the other hand it's not as if we don't all benefit from it. Better a dog on a leash than a street dog, so to speak. Our quality of life is good. Of course, every employee first works for his company and not for himself, then everyone pays his taxes and companies and super rich people benefit from our monetary system more than others. Politicians are not the bad guys, nor are refugees, nor are AfD voters
But there are two things that really bother me at the moment.
1: This constant stepping aside. 95% of humanity is in the same boat, actually even more. The refugee from Syria who drowns in the Mediterranean Sea is so much more similar to you than the super rich who travels in a private jet. The large part of humanity is oriented to the side, to the refugees currently especially, who are actually on exactly the same level, instead of upwards. We are all in the same boat and our enemy is not the other poor, it is the super rich
2: Just accept any theory that sounds fascinating. I encounter this phenomenon far too often and I don't know what it is. Probably it is just really more exciting that way?! Not everything what some weirdo tells is equal was, not every internet page is a serious source (Wikipedia is one of the most serious sources by the way). Sure, sometimes the super world conspiracy is more interesting and above all much much easier than the truth. To understand the "truth" you not only have to have something in your head, you have to educate yourself. You have to understand how our monetary system works, how money is generated, how businesses work, how currencies work, what the laws and international laws are. You have to invest a hell of a lot of time to kind of see through it. It's easier to pick up somewhere a banking family owns all the banks and THOSE ON TOP ARE IN DEBT. The simple version is unfortunately rarely the truth in the real world.
You don't realize yourself how you present your opinion as facts.
'' You this or that is too simple'' and therefore it is so?
I prefer to orient myself by the facts.
And I can give you a tip. Why don't you question everything first. Why is something God-given for you only because your dear Marx has written it?
And here we come back to the facts.
I rather first look at with whom Marx had to do, in which circles he moved?
Then I look at what his so breathtaking ideas have led to?
Tell me a communist country in which one is allowed to speak out loud about freedom. In which it does not become a total system of domination
with oppression, murder and terror.
Do not be lulled by beautiful words.
I can understand that many believe that communism would be a utopian world and finally all the injustices would stop.
But what you will never and never understand is that exactly those who introduce a system always abuse it as a system of domination
To change anything, the power must first be given back to the people. And yes there is a power elite behind it, wars are led because of global interests.
Or how would you make sure that for example if communism would be introduced it would not be abused as it has always happened before.
Why do you not learn from history?
And no, you justify it again with the bogus arguments how well we are doing.
We are stolen from wherever and however we can. Have you ever given anyone the right to steal from you?
And again, we don't have capitalism
Cooperativism and capitalism is not something that goes hand in hand, because in a real capitalism, in a real free market economy, there would be no way to use the state because there would be equal rights for everyone
In a system in which no one is favored or disadvantaged, only a real capitalism would arise in which the market regulates everything itself, which would automatically lead to the fact that the best products prevail, the consumer benefits from it due to the actual competition, no one could grab a monopoly position, because such a position can also only be created by states.
Today prices and raw materials are artificially steered and '' regulated''.
There would still be rich people, but not so super-rich as now. There would also be no more patents and good ideas would always be further developed in which the best prevail
If there were not so many super corporations that protect their interests with the help of the state, we would be much further as mankind today.
There would be no more pharmaceutical industry that holds back medicines, because others bring more money, etc. etc.
1. Right
Exactly of it I speak the whole time. But for this we would have to finally dissolve errors.
Unfortunately, the majority of the errors are still based on, as you prove very well
2. CORRECT
Then please invest this time and then come back as an enlightened person, instead of believing everything that was drilled into you by the rulers. I mean, up to now you are a good mouthpiece for them. I have not yet seen any insight from you that is not politically absolutely correct and suitable for the majority.
Doesn't that make you think?
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How the FED was founded can be read very well on Wikipedia. Basically, the FED is a central bank with private shareholders, the Rothschilds brought the N**is into play.
The media in Germany sucks and is largely homogenized, that's for sure. But the Rothschild family? Rather the Springer publishing house with the edition to preserve the transatlantic pact and the Bertelsman Foundation are the problem there, right? Above all, it is not forbidden for chief journalists to be in various interest groups. That always creates conflicts of interest between journalism and private or political interests. Nevertheless, most journalists in Germany are free for now. And the mainstream press still reports more neutrally than the modern right-wing press.
How our monetary system works I can explain to you, but not here and not so fast. I recommend simply "Das Kapital" as reading, there basically everything is well explained.
And yes, we even live in ultra-capitalism. Who has money, it is much easier to get even more money than someone who has no money. Companies are especially privileged. I recommend reading up on the Quandt family and how they were able to cheat several billions on taxes without any problems
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Have you read through the article or just looked at the pretty number? Even IF this sum should be true, for which, by the way, no source is given but it is also only an estimate, that would be a lot, but not the world. Apple has a revenue per year that is about the same. By the way, it is doubtful whether the companies listed are actually in pure family ownership, or actually it is guaranteed that they are not or partly not anymore
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Almost everything is wrong.
We do not live in capitalism
We live in cooperatism
Corporations and loobyists use the state to advance their interests
Capitalism means free market economy. This does not exist already by the fact that the state prescribes rules
Most of the time these rules are made as difficult as possible for the small citizen, while a certain size of a company can almost do as it pleases. In Brussels alone there are over 3000 lobbyists
Privatization of water and the like is only possible because the politicians allow it. We are very far away from ultra-capitalism.
Productivity has increased 6-fold since the 1950s
What does that mean? That means that we would have to work only 6 times less to earn the same as someone in the 50s.
But the opposite has happened because the Infaltion in this time has risen by 9 times and thus the purchasing power has fallen extremely.
The dollar alone has lost 98% of its value. How can this be? Because the money flows in a direction and someone must have created this system exactly in such a way. This is robbery of humanity, which would not be possible if all people were enlightened and would not wander with the politically indoctrinated worldview, which you unfortunately to a large extent also still do.
Alone that you Wikipedia as a serious source indicates how far it hacks there still with you.
And the really bad thing is that you can want all this just as little as the rest of the world. Who likes to be robbed?
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Communism is the other side of the coin of nationalism.
Both are systems of domination to exercise control over the little people.
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Obviously you haven't read the work, so I guess the recommendation wasn't so bad. Das Kapital is primarily not about communism, but about capitalism. Marx explains very neutrally how capitalism works. You are probably confusing this work with another well-known Marx work "The Manifesto of the Communist Party"
I am not a communist. But to deny Karl Marx expertise on capitalism is hare-brained. By the way, communism according to Marx is also obviously something that you have not grasped to begin with, because otherwise you would realize that in this system, all control comes from the "little people" themselves and thus no power is exercised. At least in the communist utopia according to Marx, which has never taken place, in no state, at no time
I think you mean corporatism. The problem is that corporatism and capitalism do not contradict each other at all, on the contrary, corporatism can only work in the capitalist system. I even agree with you on that point, yet we live in the capitalist system. But whether we are enslaved or not is a difficult question. On the one hand yes, on the other hand it's not as if we don't all benefit from it. Better a dog on a leash than a street dog, so to speak. Our quality of life is good. Of course, every employee first works for his company and not for himself, then everyone pays his taxes and companies and super rich people benefit from our monetary system more than others. Politicians are not the bad guys, nor are refugees, nor are AfD voters
But there are two things that really bother me at the moment.
1: This constant stepping aside. 95% of humanity is in the same boat, actually even more. The refugee from Syria who drowns in the Mediterranean Sea is so much more similar to you than the super rich who travels in a private jet. The large part of humanity is oriented to the side, to the refugees currently especially, who are actually on exactly the same level, instead of upwards. We are all in the same boat and our enemy is not the other poor, it is the super rich
2: Just accept any theory that sounds fascinating. I encounter this phenomenon far too often and I don't know what it is. Probably it is just really more exciting that way?! Not everything what some weirdo tells is equal was, not every internet page is a serious source (Wikipedia is one of the most serious sources by the way). Sure, sometimes the super world conspiracy is more interesting and above all much much easier than the truth. To understand the "truth" you not only have to have something in your head, you have to educate yourself. You have to understand how our monetary system works, how money is generated, how businesses work, how currencies work, what the laws and international laws are. You have to invest a hell of a lot of time to kind of see through it. It's easier to pick up somewhere a banking family owns all the banks and THOSE ON TOP ARE IN DEBT. The simple version is unfortunately rarely the truth in the real world
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You don't realize yourself how you present your opinion as facts.
'' You this or that is too simple'' and therefore it is so?
I prefer to orient myself by the facts.
And I can give you a tip. Why don't you question everything first. Why is something God-given for you only because your dear Marx has written it?
And here we come back to the facts.
I rather first look at with whom Marx had to do, in which circles he moved?
Then I look at what his so breathtaking ideas have led to?
Tell me a communist country in which one is allowed to speak out loud about freedom. In which it does not become a total system of domination
with oppression, murder and terror.
Do not be lulled by beautiful words.
I can understand that many believe that communism would be a utopian world and finally all the injustices would stop.
But what you will never and never understand is that exactly those who introduce a system always abuse it as a system of domination
To change anything, the power must first be given back to the people. And yes there is a power elite behind it, wars are led because of global interests.
Or how would you make sure that for example if communism would be introduced it would not be abused as it has always happened before.
Why do you not learn from history?
And no, you justify it again with the bogus arguments how well we are doing.
We are stolen from wherever and however we can. Have you ever given anyone the right to steal from you?
And again, we don't have capitalism
Cooperativism and capitalism is not something that goes hand in hand, because in a real capitalism, in a real free market economy, there would be no way to use the state because there would be equal rights for everyone
In a system in which no one is favored or disadvantaged, only a real capitalism would arise in which the market regulates everything itself, which would automatically lead to the fact that the best products prevail, the consumer benefits from it due to the actual competition, no one could grab a monopoly position, because such a position can also only be created by states.
Today prices and raw materials are artificially steered and '' regulated''.
There would still be rich people, but not so super-rich as now. There would also be no more patents and good ideas would always be further developed in which the best prevail
If there were not so many super corporations that protect their interests with the help of the state, we would be much further as mankind today.
There would be no more pharmaceutical industry that holds back medicines, because others bring more money, etc. etc.
1. Right
Exactly of it I speak the whole time. But for this we would have to finally dissolve errors.
Unfortunately, the majority of the errors are still based on, as you prove very well
2. CORRECT
Then please invest this time and then come back as an enlightened person, instead of believing everything that was drilled into you by the rulers. I mean, up to now you are a good mouthpiece for them. I have not yet seen any insight from you that is not politically absolutely correct and suitable for the majority.
Doesn't that make you think?
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