Hey guys I just had another thought where I wanted to go into more detail now
There are many casinos some are good some the last shit some have a good license some not
What do almost all casinos have in common ? Right the games
I think times so generally speaking the manufacturers of the games have more power over the casinos than the MGA or anyone else
So if now for example Book of Dead someone in a real crap casino with a bad license has a super win would not theoretically interest the manufacturer if the payout is denied?
I mean that indirectly harms Pla'n Go or any other manufacturer
And I go even further I mean once to have picked up that the manufacturers take considerable sums to ensure among other things also that with their games and names no mischief like reputation damage are operated
Theoretically it would have to interest the nevertheless then if a casino refuses payments from arbitrariness or not ?
Players are pretty good at creating links that know casinos and also the manufacturers and I personally would always think in such a negative case when I said game would gamble
For me, it is not relevant in which game a win was achieved, if there is a complaint about a casino. I usually skim over the description of how the win came about. So I can't see any negative associations with me personally.
Of course, if a casino is the talk of the town because of its practices, then the providers may also end their cooperation
So if now with zb. Book of Dead someone has a super win in a real dirty casino with bad license would not theoretically interest the manufacturer if the payout is denied ?
I mean that indirectly harms Pla'n Go or any other manufacturer
When was the last time you read here something like: "Had 5 explorers on BOD and now Ranzcasino.com won't pay me the win because I allegedly violated bonus provision 4.1. I will NEVER, NEVER play Play'n'Go slots again!" Exactly. Neither will I. Shitty behavior of casinos does not harm the provider. And it doesn't interest the Provider either, because it's not their responsibility. My opinion.
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Why do some casinos suck so much ?
8th Mar. 2021, at 03:54 pm CET#4
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To be honest, I can't imagine that this topic has much relevance for the providers
Let's just take this forum here, when is a thread about this topic also (negatively) about the providers at the end?
Rarely, if ever, not at all
The providers have nothing to do with the behavior of the casino's, have nothing to do with payments and or Verification, so they are not even discussed
Especially since many big wins often do not come from playing a single provider.
So I personally bring a casino that acts dubious, never in connection with the providers
For me, these are two different pairs of shoes and I think it's the same for most people
Thus, an image damage for the providers I think is not relevant
The only exception is the "Big Wins" at Megaways Slots, where the Provider must contractually take over a portion of the winnings and then checks the whole thing before a payout is released - in this case, you might associate the provider and the casino in terms of payouts
I think what providers worry about are more issues like negative comments in such forums regarding their games not paying etc., I think this image technically rather ends up on the discussion table
In the end I have to say one more thing, if a casino or a casino group should come into focus because of fraud with certain authorities, I could imagine that one would stop the cooperation with the casino's or the respective group
I see it this way, if a speeding driver causes a serious accident on the road then for me this person is to blame and not the manufacturer of the vehicle. Of course, there are certain car brands and models that are preferred by such "speed junkies" there but the company really can not help it. Sure, you could now say that they should just make less sporty cars with less power but that's nonsense
Likewise, the manufacturer of a slot can not help it if a casino does not deal well with its customers. It is the casino's fault and no one else.
In my opinion you should also look at it from the other perspective, after all, it is also a competitive battle between all the countless providers. - The casinos have been shooting up like mushrooms for years and of course the casinos have to be able to offer something to the customers even before the release, which of course means that they also have to acquire the licenses from the online casino before the release.
In order to strengthen the brand of the providers, it is of course best to spread the games as much as possible, whether it is a casino with a Malta license or with a Curacao license
If a new casino comes on the market and generates hype, every Provider wants to be a part of it to get a piece of the pie.
The best example of this was Wildz, when the casino was launched, it went through the roof due to the influence of the streamers and other platforms
Imagine if the providers like NetEnt or Play'n Go had waited another year with the license award, they would have missed out on a lot, while the competition profited from it countless times.
A good example of this are also the video games, imagine it comes a new video game on the market and of course it pleases the developers to see that any YouTuber / Twitch Streamer talk about the game and in the best case make any Lets Play's about it, thereby a hype is generated, because everyone starts to talk about the game.
Therefore, the publishers usually also offer certain placements for the streamers, but they only look at the reach of the YouTuber / streamer and not at the quality of the content
Whether there are 1-2 candidates among all the streamers who have attracted negative attention in the past, for example, through some activities / statements, is ultimately totally irrelevant for the publisher, because they are not liable for it, why should they?
And I myself agree with Stromberg's statement that I personally would at least never build up negative associations with it. - If a casino f**ks up, it's the casino's fault, not the providers.
Also think that the providers do not care much. The player must always settle any problems that arise with the casino. Whether the casino contacts the Provider in some cases is another story.
wettibernd wrote on 08.03.2021 at 16:14 clock: I see it this way, if a speeder on the road causes a serious accident then for me this person is to blame and not the manufacturer of the vehicle. Of course there are certain car brands and models that are preferred by such "speed junkies" there but the company really can not help it. Sure, you could now say that they should just make less sporty cars with less power but that's nonsense
Likewise, the manufacturer of a slot can not help it if a casino does not deal well with its customers. It is the casino's fault and no one else.
That was a good example because with such messages one has already drawn often the manufacturers at least in the media with in it after the slogan "Mercedes - legal weapons" or
Of course, you can argue about the quality of these articles in the media, but for the reference that manufacturer -> supplier -> customer can sometimes easily be put on the same level
@Julian
I can understand your argumentation of course very well
Of course I did not expect that every Provider at every win acts it was more in the long run meant because there are just so many weird casinos where really only with a lot of luck money flows back to the customer and the games are available even after years
Because at a certain point it just falls back on one and if it is only after the motto "why do they all work with such a mess together" is
But as I said so far I can understand each of you like and what he means
Why do some casinos suck so much ?
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There are many casinos some are good some the last shit some have a good license some not
What do almost all casinos have in common ? Right the games
I think times so generally speaking the manufacturers of the games have more power over the casinos than the MGA or anyone else
So if now for example Book of Dead someone in a real crap casino with a bad license has a super win would not theoretically interest the manufacturer if the payout is denied?
I mean that indirectly harms Pla'n Go or any other manufacturer
And I go even further I mean once to have picked up that the manufacturers take considerable sums to ensure among other things also that with their games and names no mischief like reputation damage are operated
Theoretically it would have to interest the nevertheless then if a casino refuses payments from arbitrariness or not ?
Players are pretty good at creating links that know casinos and also the manufacturers and I personally would always think in such a negative case when I said game would gamble
What do you think?
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Of course, if a casino is the talk of the town because of its practices, then the providers may also end their cooperation
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When was the last time you read here something like: "Had 5 explorers on BOD and now Ranzcasino.com won't pay me the win because I allegedly violated bonus provision 4.1. I will NEVER, NEVER play Play'n'Go slots again!" Exactly. Neither will I. Shitty behavior of casinos does not harm the provider. And it doesn't interest the Provider either, because it's not their responsibility. My opinion.
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Why do some casinos suck so much ?
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Let's just take this forum here, when is a thread about this topic also (negatively) about the providers at the end?
Rarely, if ever, not at all
The providers have nothing to do with the behavior of the casino's, have nothing to do with payments and or Verification, so they are not even discussed
Especially since many big wins often do not come from playing a single provider.
So I personally bring a casino that acts dubious, never in connection with the providers
For me, these are two different pairs of shoes and I think it's the same for most people
Thus, an image damage for the providers I think is not relevant
The only exception is the "Big Wins" at Megaways Slots, where the Provider must contractually take over a portion of the winnings and then checks the whole thing before a payout is released - in this case, you might associate the provider and the casino in terms of payouts
I think what providers worry about are more issues like negative comments in such forums regarding their games not paying etc., I think this image technically rather ends up on the discussion table
In the end I have to say one more thing, if a casino or a casino group should come into focus because of fraud with certain authorities, I could imagine that one would stop the cooperation with the casino's or the respective group
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Likewise, the manufacturer of a slot can not help it if a casino does not deal well with its customers. It is the casino's fault and no one else.
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In my opinion you should also look at it from the other perspective, after all, it is also a competitive battle between all the countless providers. - The casinos have been shooting up like mushrooms for years and of course the casinos have to be able to offer something to the customers even before the release, which of course means that they also have to acquire the licenses from the online casino before the release.
In order to strengthen the brand of the providers, it is of course best to spread the games as much as possible, whether it is a casino with a Malta license or with a Curacao license
If a new casino comes on the market and generates hype, every Provider wants to be a part of it to get a piece of the pie.
The best example of this was Wildz, when the casino was launched, it went through the roof due to the influence of the streamers and other platforms
Imagine if the providers like NetEnt or Play'n Go had waited another year with the license award, they would have missed out on a lot, while the competition profited from it countless times.
A good example of this are also the video games, imagine it comes a new video game on the market and of course it pleases the developers to see that any YouTuber / Twitch Streamer talk about the game and in the best case make any Lets Play's about it, thereby a hype is generated, because everyone starts to talk about the game.
Therefore, the publishers usually also offer certain placements for the streamers, but they only look at the reach of the YouTuber / streamer and not at the quality of the content
Whether there are 1-2 candidates among all the streamers who have attracted negative attention in the past, for example, through some activities / statements, is ultimately totally irrelevant for the publisher, because they are not liable for it, why should they?
And I myself agree with Stromberg's statement that I personally would at least never build up negative associations with it. - If a casino f**ks up, it's the casino's fault, not the providers.
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That was a good example because with such messages one has already drawn often the manufacturers at least in the media with in it after the slogan "Mercedes - legal weapons" or
Of course, you can argue about the quality of these articles in the media, but for the reference that manufacturer -> supplier -> customer can sometimes easily be put on the same level
@Julian
I can understand your argumentation of course very well
Of course I did not expect that every Provider at every win acts it was more in the long run meant because there are just so many weird casinos where really only with a lot of luck money flows back to the customer and the games are available even after years
Because at a certain point it just falls back on one and if it is only after the motto "why do they all work with such a mess together" is
But as I said so far I can understand each of you like and what he means
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