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24th Jan. 2018, at 12:05 pm CET#1
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Actually, I would call myself an experienced gambler, but I registered in the gambling madness at a completely unknown casino and gambled away about 1000 euros.
In principle, there were almost zero wins, only downward it went.
It's about Flamantis29.com, actually a sports betting Provider with casino.
Problem here:
It has only a Curacao license (yes I know it actually, there you should not play) and the hammer is that there all transactions are made via a payment provider from BULGARIA, which already sounds not serious.
I have deposited with MasterCard / credit card and the payment provider in Bulgaria is called HIPAYWALLET.
How do the others here see it ? Should I take my loss as a given, or should I try to get my money back via chargeback credit card claim since the constant losses were a bit unusual to me ?
Who knows Flamantis29.com ? How to get money back ?
24th Jan. 2018, at 01:02 pm CET#2
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Well, I would vote for the casino here, honestly, even if it were the last pad.
Even a Curacao license is just a license, although worthless in case of dispute, yet not all casinos fraudsters. Furthermore, Bulgaria is an EU country, do not understand why a payment service Provider should not be reputable. Both are clearly stated at the bottom of the home page.
If you are an experienced player and even have such prejudices, then I simply assume you intention.
Look for a possible Curacao booth, Deposit with chargeback possibility, play high, if something comes, good, if not, then chargeback.
And honest players then get the great bonus conditions, as compensation.
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24th Jan. 2018, at 01:47 pm CET#3
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This has already happened to me a few times.new casino searched and fell in.Especially with Curacao buden I'm already fallen on the nose.
I personally would try a chargeback. Contrary to what the previous speaker said, there is no Risk of abuse of this function, because it is not easy to get a CB through. It depends on the bank. Barclaycard, for example, is very bad.
Flamantis is not unserious per se but there are comparatively many complaints.
You just have to see how you get the chargeback through. You can simply say that you do not know the turnover, that is the most promising, but then you have to block the card and apply for a new one. If you have entered a code for Verified with Visa or MC SecureCode, but that no longer works logically. Then you have to act differently with the bank. Either say, the payee has screwed you or immediately on the track, that payment to gambling providers are not legal.can sometimes be a struggle. Play in any case in the future no more aif such sites.Had you won, they would have bitched with the payout, weekly limits, Verification, etc. One has only trouble with the Curacaobuden.
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24th Jan. 2018, at 05:13 pm CET#4
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Go ahead and do your fraudulent shit. I do not understand it. Also not that chmi77 approvingly also posts ne instructions. There is absolutely no reason why you should get your money back here. Lost is lost, and good isseses...
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24th Jan. 2018, at 05:25 pm CET#5
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That is why GJ will not become big either. It's all well and good that employees from various casinos register here and offer help.
But such a shit I read here more often, casino fraud blah blah blah, thread creators who then no longer report, because possibly everything is fabricated and lied.
I find it rather dubious that a "such" forum allows such things and also keeps online.
You write over and over again that casinos are sooooo fraudulent, but on the other hand you should say that tens of players are no different.
Among other things because of such actions.
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24th Jan. 2018, at 08:51 pm CET#6
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Dokado1212 wrote on 24/01/2018 at 17:25: That's why GJ will not become big either. It's all well and good that people from different casinos sign up here and offer help.
But such a shit I read here more often, casino fraud blah blah blah, thread creators who then no longer report because possibly everything is fabricated and lied.
I find it rather dubious that a "such" forum allows such things and also keeps online.
You write over and over again that casinos are sooooo fraudulent, but on the other hand you should say that tens of players are no different.
Among other things because of such actions.
Please do not get excited. It was a normal question asked because I signed up there hastily and deposited a lot without thinking.
Since I have to write that off willy-nilly.
Basically, I usually play in casinos that GJ recommends here and have done quite well so far.
Please forgive my Frege...... ... .
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24th Jan. 2018, at 11:02 pm CET#7
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sippi wrote on 01/24/2018 at 5:13 pm: Do your fraudulent shit. I don't get it. Nor that chmi77 approvingly posts a tutorial as well. There is absolutely no reason why you should get your money back here. Lost is lost, and good isseses...
So it looks like, but everyone may make mistakes if he learns from it. sippi is right, gambled is gambled whether with Malta license or with Curacao "license".
But why is he not allowed to ask that? And why should GJ be harmed if they do not delete such a topic? I do not understand. Is ne info for everyone who did not know how it runs so in the OC - license world. Sure the money is gone, but the thread creator will have already noticed that bitterly... And why are other users not allowed to explain it to him?
Rather by bitter comments a forum is destroyed if the thread creator is directly finished and possibly never reports again.....great
Greetings JoKer
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24th Jan. 2018, at 11:38 pm CET#8
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Here any question to ask is allowed..no question..But...... ... .I find it already of some Dreist to think at all about it the money simply to recover. Man imagine, the casinos simply ne pay out, because a player in their opinion have won too much. Then all hell would break loose here.
So losing money is annoying, losing money in a short time because it just rattles down, is even more annoying. But then you avoid this casino in the future and done.
If the players all start to withdraw money now, just because they lost...Where do we go from there? And this is starting to annoy me a little bit here...
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25th Jan. 2018, at 03:13 am CET#9
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After some here are deliciously echauffeiert, a postscript.
It's not right to gamble online, collect when you win, and make a chargeback when you lose. No question, so that is clear, but the subject is complex.
Basically, it is not legal from ZAhlungsdienstleister and banks to direct funds to gambling companies. The legal transaction with a casino is not legal, at least according to the current legal situation. If you want to know more, please post a message in the forum, I will send you all the paragraphs and data.
Nevertheless it is tolerated. Anyway, that's just as a note.
If now a player is conned by a casino or falls for a fraudulent site, he has in my opinion all the right in the world to get his money back. Is like being scammed by an online store. Also taking advantage of a casino of Gambling addiction is not okay in my opinion and the player should get his money back.
However, the recovery "chargeback" is difficult and works only with a few payment methods and also not often.
There are specialized law firms in complicated cases. In the meantime, settlements or judgments have been obtained against various banks and payment service providers, including Sofort.
I know that opinions differ on this subject. I am neither for nor against chargeback, but it is necessary to lead the discussion in an objective way and to see all aspects, instead of being for or against the whole thing.
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25th Jan. 2018, at 02:11 pm CET#10
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Gamer777 wrote on 24.01.2018 at 12:05 pm: Actually, I would call myself an experienced gambler, however, I registered in the gaming mania at a completely unknown to me casino and gambled away there around 1000 euros.
It came in principle almost zero wins, only downward it went.
It's about Flamantis29.com, actually a sports betting Provider with casino.
Problem here:
It has only a Curacao license (yes I know it actually, there you should not play) and the hammer is that there all transactions are made via a payment provider from BULGARIA, which already sounds not serious.
I have deposited with MasterCard / credit card and the payment provider in Bulgaria is called HIPAYWALLET.
How do the others here see it ? Should I take my loss as a given, or should I try to get my money back via chargeback credit card claim since the constant losses were a bit unusual to me ?
In itself must question here but also once something
You can of course ask any question you want but what resonance did you hope for? You are an adult and can certainly make decisions for yourself. Or have you now actually made dependent on the opinion of the users here?
If you return the money good. If not good. But do something like this with yourself. Do not put your decision about this in the hands of others......
Who knows Flamantis29.com ? How to get money back ?
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In principle, there were almost zero wins, only downward it went.
It's about Flamantis29.com, actually a sports betting Provider with casino.
Problem here:
It has only a Curacao license (yes I know it actually, there you should not play) and the hammer is that there all transactions are made via a payment provider from BULGARIA, which already sounds not serious.
I have deposited with MasterCard / credit card and the payment provider in Bulgaria is called HIPAYWALLET.
How do the others here see it ? Should I take my loss as a given, or should I try to get my money back via chargeback credit card claim since the constant losses were a bit unusual to me ?
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Who knows Flamantis29.com ? How to get money back ?
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Even a Curacao license is just a license, although worthless in case of dispute, yet not all casinos fraudsters. Furthermore, Bulgaria is an EU country, do not understand why a payment service Provider should not be reputable. Both are clearly stated at the bottom of the home page.
If you are an experienced player and even have such prejudices, then I simply assume you intention.
Look for a possible Curacao booth, Deposit with chargeback possibility, play high, if something comes, good, if not, then chargeback.
And honest players then get the great bonus conditions, as compensation.
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Who knows Flamantis29.com ? How to get money back ?
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I personally would try a chargeback. Contrary to what the previous speaker said, there is no Risk of abuse of this function, because it is not easy to get a CB through. It depends on the bank. Barclaycard, for example, is very bad.
Flamantis is not unserious per se but there are comparatively many complaints.
You just have to see how you get the chargeback through. You can simply say that you do not know the turnover, that is the most promising, but then you have to block the card and apply for a new one. If you have entered a code for Verified with Visa or MC SecureCode, but that no longer works logically. Then you have to act differently with the bank. Either say, the payee has screwed you or immediately on the track, that payment to gambling providers are not legal.can sometimes be a struggle. Play in any case in the future no more aif such sites.Had you won, they would have bitched with the payout, weekly limits, Verification, etc. One has only trouble with the Curacaobuden.
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But such a shit I read here more often, casino fraud blah blah blah, thread creators who then no longer report, because possibly everything is fabricated and lied.
I find it rather dubious that a "such" forum allows such things and also keeps online.
You write over and over again that casinos are sooooo fraudulent, but on the other hand you should say that tens of players are no different.
Among other things because of such actions.
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Please do not get excited. It was a normal question asked because I signed up there hastily and deposited a lot without thinking.
Since I have to write that off willy-nilly.
Basically, I usually play in casinos that GJ recommends here and have done quite well so far.
Please forgive my Frege...... ... .
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So it looks like, but everyone may make mistakes if he learns from it. sippi is right, gambled is gambled whether with Malta license or with Curacao "license".
But why is he not allowed to ask that? And why should GJ be harmed if they do not delete such a topic? I do not understand. Is ne info for everyone who did not know how it runs so in the OC - license world. Sure the money is gone, but the thread creator will have already noticed that bitterly... And why are other users not allowed to explain it to him?
Rather by bitter comments a forum is destroyed if the thread creator is directly finished and possibly never reports again.....great
Greetings JoKer
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So losing money is annoying, losing money in a short time because it just rattles down, is even more annoying. But then you avoid this casino in the future and done.
If the players all start to withdraw money now, just because they lost...Where do we go from there? And this is starting to annoy me a little bit here...
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Who knows Flamantis29.com ? How to get money back ?
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It's not right to gamble online, collect when you win, and make a chargeback when you lose. No question, so that is clear, but the subject is complex.
Basically, it is not legal from ZAhlungsdienstleister and banks to direct funds to gambling companies. The legal transaction with a casino is not legal, at least according to the current legal situation. If you want to know more, please post a message in the forum, I will send you all the paragraphs and data.
Nevertheless it is tolerated. Anyway, that's just as a note.
If now a player is conned by a casino or falls for a fraudulent site, he has in my opinion all the right in the world to get his money back. Is like being scammed by an online store. Also taking advantage of a casino of Gambling addiction is not okay in my opinion and the player should get his money back.
However, the recovery "chargeback" is difficult and works only with a few payment methods and also not often.
There are specialized law firms in complicated cases. In the meantime, settlements or judgments have been obtained against various banks and payment service providers, including Sofort.
I know that opinions differ on this subject. I am neither for nor against chargeback, but it is necessary to lead the discussion in an objective way and to see all aspects, instead of being for or against the whole thing.
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In itself must question here but also once something
You can of course ask any question you want but what resonance did you hope for? You are an adult and can certainly make decisions for yourself. Or have you now actually made dependent on the opinion of the users here?
If you return the money good. If not good. But do something like this with yourself. Do not put your decision about this in the hands of others......
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