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What's going on with StarGames???
4th May. 2023, at 02:13 pm CEST#61
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frapi07 wrote on 04.05.2023 at 14:
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Yes, that the player tells false facts here, just to make the casino worse, I also do not find okay. However, I must also be critical of StarGames that a casino gives out such data. I mean because of data protection and so.
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However, that would also interest me times burning, whether the user has agreed to the publication of his statistics here in the forum?
There is no such thing as an average, per se. Probably the average is a bit worse than the 100x I mentioned, you may be right. Would be too nice if Pragmatic offers a bonus feature at fair conditions But still I think 80-90x should be a good average.
Yes, that the player here tells false facts, just to make the casino worse, I also do not find okay. However, I must also be critical of StarGames, that a casino gives out such data. I mean because of data protection and so.
Yes, these few games say nothing, except that it may have run moderately. For a more objective opinion, you would have to play in the long term. Could have been the other way around, so that 8 free spins run above average. The number of free spins is simply too little to say something good/bad about the casino. Moreover, you are right, the AQ is bad. Has almost gambling house level, although the number suggests otherwise.
I say it again and again: it is only logical that the casinos that follow German regulations do not do nearly as well as other licensed casinos. The main reason is that the max bet of 1€ also generates less revenue. Less turnover = less payout. Anyone who has played on high stakes knows how quickly thousands of euros can go away. At StarGames and co. you need longer. In addition, each player has 1k Deposit limit. The other reason: less turnover, because these slots are only switched for the special German market. An American, for example, still has the RTP of 96-97% at LOD. In addition, you also have to be clear about one thing: if you want to win a thousand euros with 1€, you have to land a 1000x hit. I have never had it online. Play but since nen year little slots, but does not matter that a 1000x+ hit is very rare. The "jackpot" at 1€ would be depending on the slot 5.000€ - 10.000€ and that is already the max. win.
Yes and I think the most important reason for the poor rtp and thus the worse performance is besides the points you mentioned like maxbet etc especially the tax.
On every bet 5,3 percent. Theoretically, with a good hit at the beginning, which the player then ditches, the tax to be paid by the casino for the session can be higher than the deposit.
In a way, the casino protects itself through the low rtp thus not only in the sense that less is distributed to the player and thus paid out if necessary. But also to the effect that the session with a deposit does not last indefinitely with too many spins. Even if nothing remains with the player at the end, the tax would be very high for such a session with many spins...
However, I would be very interested to know if the user has agreed to the publication of his statistics here in the forum?
We take DSGVO seriously. There is no personal data in our comment above. Therefore, it also needs no consent from the thread creator.
You can also see the wins, games and first names of our latest winners on our homepage when you visit StarGames. This is also completely okay according to the German Data Protection Act (DSGVO).
So I had yesterday through the free wheel 15 Freespins get. The yield from this was 23.40. This then animated me to Deposit there times 10 euros because the 23.40 are cash back. In fact, I have then managed to earn the 23.40 with the tenner. When I was after some time on 40 euros and my motivation was no longer so high I put on 50 cents and thought to me, just turn until gone. Thought that I vlt still so come to 100 euros or just ultimately have a loss of 10 euros. At some point there were then but free spins at Book of Ra and I got there 4 heads. In total I got over 600. Then I played down to 500 and since yesterday I have the remaining 500 in the payout. Since I have already experienced one or the other negative in casinos, I'm sure with the whole only when I have the money. According to Live Chat everything should be fine. I am curious.
Can therefore but say that you can actually win there.
I myself have been playing for over 18 years in various casinos and gaming houses, both online and online and I would not say that 100x or 80x is the usual win average for free spins.
I used to play Book of Ra on 2 euros and there were often free spins that paid only 20x, especially with explorers, sometimes not 1x 3 explorers. It was the same with Lucky Ladies Charm and other slots with free spins.
My gut feeling tells me that the average free spins win is 50-60x and if free spins sometimes bring over 100x, then you can be happy and put the bet high and hope that good games with over 100x factor come again.
250x or even over 300x are really good in my opinion and everything from 500x is mega good and a reason to be really happy.
But maybe I have different expectations, because I used to play on 2 Euro per spin and I was really happy about a 500 Euro win... so I didn't even think about complaining that it's only 250x...
And if you get 8x free spins and 3 of them pay over 100x - I honestly find that really okay.
After all, it's not a winning machine, but a gambling machine. Sometimes you are lucky and play at the right moment on the right machine and then you win a lot, but as a rule, the loss but in any casino by the RTP is the absolute normal case.
To publicly portray a casino in the form of tall tales about the course of the game, on the other hand, I do not find normal.
Now purely theoretically I could calculate for the period of at least the last 2 years at least my - which should be identical with the majority of all here - average X-value of all free spins, since all game sessions per Deposit are available in at least manually maintained Excel format. Even broken down to each casino would be possible But that would be a really bad piece of work, because the lists are not structured in a way that I only filter the columns where for example the X appears, but also additional categorizations/comments about the Basegame history are available in the same field. Not exactly the employment I imagine for the spring But I agree with Matthias'estimate 50X-60X, which could be true for the larger part. But I would assume at least 60X in the total average, because hits > 100X I think occur more often than for example hits < 10X, which pull the average mutually disproportionately up and down. But this is only a rough statement
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Matthias wrote on 04.05.2023 at 17:47: I myself have been playing for over 18 years in various casinos and gaming houses, both online and online and I would not say now that 100x or 80x is the usual win average on free spins.
I used to play Book of Ra on 2 euros and there were often free spins that paid only 20x, especially with explorers, sometimes not 1x 3 explorers. It was the same with Lucky Ladies Charm and other slots with free spins.
My gut feeling tells me that the average free spins win is 50-60x and if free spins sometimes bring over 100x, then you can be happy and put the bet high and hope that good games with over 100x factor come again.
250x or even over 300x are really good in my opinion and everything from 500x is mega good and a reason to be really happy.
But maybe I have different expectations, because I used to play on 2 Euro per spin and I was really happy about a 500 Euro win... so I didn't even think about complaining that it's only 250x...
And if you get 8x free spins and 3 of them pay over 100x - I honestly find that really okay.
After all, it's not a winning machine, but a gambling machine. Sometimes you are lucky and play at the right moment on the right machine and then you win a lot, but as a rule, the loss but in any casino by the RTP is the absolute normal case.
To publicly portray a casino in the form of tall tales about the course of the game, on the other hand, I do not find normal.
Spielothek or offline is ne other story. There I would also define everything from 100x as good. Online, however, it is in my opinion something else. The AQ in the Spielos is significantly lower than the online arcades. It feels like 60%, whereas the online arcades offer slots with 89% or similar. So it makes a huge difference.
The average Multiplier at TE is around 91x and that is fine as you said. Due to the fact that the higher stakes ran moderately, the overall balance looks bad. It is no use if I have a 500x bonus on 0.10 cents and the Bonuses on higher stakes run significantly worse.
Have today once again nice and relaxed nen fuffi loaded at StarGames..wanted to turn only relaxed aif 20 cents to recover a little from the stressful day. Not once had free spins .at each game always came only 2 Scatter! This is not the first time. With StarGames comes with me never what. Had there also once 150€ loaded on a day and aucz only on 20 cents mostly turned and there's also not even free spins.
In the casino it runs by far better. Even in a lumpy spielothek around the corner.
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 08.05.2023 at 00:49 clock: Have today once again nice and relaxed nen fuffi loaded at StarGames..wanted to turn only relaxed aif 20 cents to recover a little from the stressful day. Not once had free spins .at each game always came only 2 Scatter! This is not the first time. With StarGames comes with me never what. Had there also once 150€ loaded on a day and aucz only on 20 cents mostly turned and there's also not even free spins.
In the casino it runs by far better. Even in a lumpy spielothek around the corner.
Then StarGames just doesn't like you! Get over it and just do not play there anymore, if you know that you never win anything!
I've done that with other arcades too... But you don't need to make the store bad or complain about it!
It is not called for nothing GLÜCKSspiel, Ne😉🤷♀️
XXLEONIDASXX wrote on 08.05.2023 at 00:49 clock: Have today once again nice and relaxed nen fuffi loaded at StarGames..wanted to turn only relaxed aif 20 cents to recover a little from the stressful day. Not once had free spins .at each game always came only 2 Scatter! This is not the first time. With StarGames comes with me never what. Had there also once 150€ loaded on a day and aucz only on 20 cents mostly turned and there's also not even free spins.
In the casino it runs by far better. Even in a lumpy spielothek around the corner.
Have seen yesterday evening nen contribution of Arte, online via Youtube.
It was not exactly well talked about the MGA also came up with things like, connections to the mafia, that there gambling is used for money laundering, etc..
No idea whether all this corresponds to the truth but was already interesting.
Have seen yesterday evening nen contribution of Arte, on-line over Youtube.
It was not exactly well talked about the MGA also came up with things like, connections to the mafia, that there gambling is used for money laundering, etc..
No idea whether all this corresponds to the truth but was already interesting.
So that the mafia uses gambling for money laundering is not new. It is not only a problem of MGA (online casinos registered in Malta) but also of offline casinos. The gambling industry is not the only place where they launder their money. Pretty much everywhere they can. In the construction industry, in the public sector, in the banking industry, etc.
Many people also forget that in the past, criminals also engaged in illegal gambling. Some still do, for example in Austria. On Youtube there are some videos where the financial police there acts against illegal gambling providers. It's interesting to see how cleverly the locations are hidden and secured.
What's going on with StarGames???
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However, that would also interest me times burning, whether the user has agreed to the publication of his statistics here in the forum?
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Am not a data protection officer, but since niemend knows his name, it is probably unproblematic. And also justified in the case I find.
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Yes and I think the most important reason for the poor rtp and thus the worse performance is besides the points you mentioned like maxbet etc especially the tax.
On every bet 5,3 percent. Theoretically, with a good hit at the beginning, which the player then ditches, the tax to be paid by the casino for the session can be higher than the deposit.
In a way, the casino protects itself through the low rtp thus not only in the sense that less is distributed to the player and thus paid out if necessary. But also to the effect that the session with a deposit does not last indefinitely with too many spins. Even if nothing remains with the player at the end, the tax would be very high for such a session with many spins...
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We take DSGVO seriously. There is no personal data in our comment above. Therefore, it also needs no consent from the thread creator.
You can also see the wins, games and first names of our latest winners on our homepage when you visit StarGames. This is also completely okay according to the German Data Protection Act (DSGVO).
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Can therefore but say that you can actually win there.
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I used to play Book of Ra on 2 euros and there were often free spins that paid only 20x, especially with explorers, sometimes not 1x 3 explorers. It was the same with Lucky Ladies Charm and other slots with free spins.
My gut feeling tells me that the average free spins win is 50-60x and if free spins sometimes bring over 100x, then you can be happy and put the bet high and hope that good games with over 100x factor come again.
250x or even over 300x are really good in my opinion and everything from 500x is mega good and a reason to be really happy.
But maybe I have different expectations, because I used to play on 2 Euro per spin and I was really happy about a 500 Euro win... so I didn't even think about complaining that it's only 250x...
And if you get 8x free spins and 3 of them pay over 100x - I honestly find that really okay.
After all, it's not a winning machine, but a gambling machine. Sometimes you are lucky and play at the right moment on the right machine and then you win a lot, but as a rule, the loss but in any casino by the RTP is the absolute normal case.
To publicly portray a casino in the form of tall tales about the course of the game, on the other hand, I do not find normal.
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Spielothek or offline is ne other story. There I would also define everything from 100x as good. Online, however, it is in my opinion something else. The AQ in the Spielos is significantly lower than the online arcades. It feels like 60%, whereas the online arcades offer slots with 89% or similar. So it makes a huge difference.
The average Multiplier at TE is around 91x and that is fine as you said. Due to the fact that the higher stakes ran moderately, the overall balance looks bad. It is no use if I have a 500x bonus on 0.10 cents and the Bonuses on higher stakes run significantly worse.
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That is violent! Can I ask times with how much you play so per month ?
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Too much 😅
And I realize more and more how pointless it is only. No matter where you play, you only get ripped off.
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In the casino it runs by far better. Even in a lumpy spielothek around the corner.
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Then StarGames just doesn't like you! Get over it and just do not play there anymore, if you know that you never win anything!
I've done that with other arcades too... But you don't need to make the store bad or complain about it!
It is not called for nothing GLÜCKSspiel, Ne😉🤷♀️
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Have seen yesterday evening nen contribution of Arte, online via Youtube.
It was not exactly well talked about the MGA also came up with things like, connections to the mafia, that there gambling is used for money laundering, etc..
No idea whether all this corresponds to the truth but was already interesting.
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So that the mafia uses gambling for money laundering is not new. It is not only a problem of MGA (online casinos registered in Malta) but also of offline casinos. The gambling industry is not the only place where they launder their money. Pretty much everywhere they can. In the construction industry, in the public sector, in the banking industry, etc.
Many people also forget that in the past, criminals also engaged in illegal gambling. Some still do, for example in Austria. On Youtube there are some videos where the financial police there acts against illegal gambling providers. It's interesting to see how cleverly the locations are hidden and secured.
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