Vizzard wrote on 04/16/2023 at 22:53: So I am completely served.... StarGames has given me today the worst casino day of my life. Have deposited about 10 times and played everything that you just play. And got the whole day about 1 time free spins and won there a whole 30 cents, that with 50 cents bet. So I know that you are ripped off in the casino anyway but something like this can not exist or what? So I'm also really speechless. ... If someone from StarGames is represented here (because winning pictures are immediately commented on) explains to me but please times how that can be? RTP of 0.1% or what is the reason? Best regards
We have now looked at your sessions from 16.4. and unfortunately can not understand your statements. Here are our findings about your free spins on that day:
Game "Cash Connection - Charming Lady": received free spins three times. These brought
12,90 Euro and 54 Euro on 30 Cent bet, as well as
11.60 euros on 40 cents bet.
Game "Eye of Horus": received four free spins. These brought
26,40 Euro on 10 Cent bet,
11.60 euros on 30 cents bet,
11.40 euros on a 10-cent stake,
3.50 euros on 25 cents bet.
Game "Sparta": received free spins once. These brought 27 euros on 50 cents bet.
Sorry, but your statements about once free spins and thus 30 cents win on 50 cents bet we can not understand from this data. That the RTP is reduced at all licensed casinos because of the German regulations and tax , is already known everywhere. But we can confirm that our RTP in April was 89.82%.
Then that would be cleared up 😂
Regarding the other statistics, you should of course always consider the significance.
The fact that one is xy euros in the minus, does not mean that one would not be less in the minus or also in the plus, if one had paid out e.g. at an earlier time...
A large part of the win make bookie and casinos in my opinion not only the RTP, but also by the undisciplinarity of players
Many people always blame the casinos when they don't win anything. But most of the time it's their own fault because they are too greedy and when they win they don't stop in time and pay out the money ...
T0uchTheSky wrote on 04.05.2023 at 12:41: Many people always blame the casinos when they don't win anything. But most of the time it's their own fault because they are too greedy and when they win they don't stop in time and pay out the money ...
I agree with you, but when I look at the free spins, the player has only had two good free spins - 54€ on 30 cents (180x) and 26€ on 10 cents (260x). Once the player then won just over 100x. All other free spins were under 100x. Ultimately 5/8 free spins brought wins under 100x and 3/8 brought wins of 100-260x. Not a good yield considering 100x is supposed to be so the average. At least with most bonus buys you pay 100x, with the exception of some slots, where you may pay less or more. Since the stakes here vary greatly, an overall balance is not possible without much effort. But the best Multiplier had the player it with 10 cents stake earned. Therefore, it is objectively bad run. Listing: 30 cents: 3x free spins, once 180x and twice about 40-43x 40 Cent: 1x free spins, 29x 50 Cent: 1x free spins, 54x 25 Cent: 1x about 15x 10 Cent: 2x, once 260x and once 114x Would also feel screwed if I got €3.50 on 25 cents. That's more or less how I had it in a gambling house. Got free spins on 20 cents and received 3,55€. I was so frustrated that I pushed up the ladder, with luck the machine allowed 140€. But in an online gambling house this is not possible.
T0uchTheSky wrote on 04.05.2023 at 12:41: Many people always blame the casinos when they don't win anything. But most of the time it's their own fault because they are too greedy and when they win they don't stop in time and pay out the money ...
You don't even get into the situation of being greedy because you don't win anything from the beginning gewinnt☝️
frapi07 wrote on 04.05.2023 at 13:21:
Agree with you there in itself, but when I look at the free spins like this, the player has only had good free spins twice - and that was €54 on 30 cents (180x) as well as €26 on 10 cents (260x). Once the player then won just over 100x. All other free spins were under 100x.
Ultimately 5/8 free spins brought wins under 100x and 3/8 brought wins of 100-260x. Not a good yield considering 100x is supposed to be so the average. At least with most bonus buys you pay 100x, with the exception of some slots, where you may pay less or more. Since the stakes here vary greatly, an overall balance is not possible without much effort. But the best Multiplier had the player it with 10 cents stake earned. Therefore, it is objectively bad run.
Listing:
30 cents: 3x free spins, once 180x and twice about 40-43x
40 Cent: 1x free spins, 29x
50 Cent: 1x free spins, 54x
25 Cent: 1x about 15x
10 Cent: 2x, once 260x and once 114x
Would also feel screwed if I got €3.50 on 25 cents. That's more or less how I had it in a gambling house. Got free spins on 20 cents and received 3,55€. I was so frustrated that I pushed up the ladder, with luck the machine allowed 140€. But in an online gambling house this is not possible.
So 100 x is I think not an average value for free spins, or I would not assume. This belongs for me rather to the better free spins from 100 x...
But not since the regulation, but always.
In the beginning I played a lot of netent many years ago, there were so 5 to 10 euros on 20 cents standard in the free spins.
I do not pay now and of course you can not generalize, but I would say 50 x is rather so the average win in free spins.
As for the threaderöffner, that was certainly not a good session, but far from what he has told here.
With the other statistics applies in my eyes what Touch the sky and I wrote, they say nothing about what would have been possible to win, etc...
But in the end, the AQ are unfortunately underground at the licensed casinos, which even the manager does not deny.
For me it feels like more or less 1000 x wins are replaced by 500 x wins etc... So from the probability.
Surely the whole thing is but also not a StarGames specific problem...
frapi07 wrote on 04.05.2023 at 13:21:
Agree with you there in itself, but when I look at the free spins like this, the player has only had good free spins twice - and that was €54 on 30 cents (180x) as well as €26 on 10 cents (260x). Once the player then won just over 100x. All other free spins were under 100x.
Ultimately 5/8 free spins brought wins under 100x and 3/8 brought wins of 100-260x. Not a good yield considering 100x is supposed to be so the average. At least with most bonus buys you pay 100x, with the exception of some slots, where you may pay less or more. Since the stakes here vary greatly, an overall balance is not possible without much effort. But the best Multiplier had the player it with 10 cents stake earned. Therefore, it is objectively bad run.
Listing:
30 cents: 3x free spins, once 180x and twice about 40-43x
40 Cent: 1x free spins, 29x
50 Cent: 1x free spins, 54x
25 Cent: 1x about 15x
10 Cent: 2x, once 260x and once 114x
Would also feel screwed if I got €3.50 on 25 cents. That's more or less how I had it in a gambling house. Got free spins on 20 cents and received 3,55€. I was so frustrated that I pushed up the ladder, with luck the machine allowed 140€. But in an online gambling house this is not possible.
Yes and that is exactly currently the main problem and in this I can only say it does not matter whether regulated or unregulated before 2018 taken exactly in my real active time of 14-17 there were such frustration results not and if it came to very isolated now it does not matter where the rule
If you had in the said time in the hall on 1 € the games you were guaranteed 100 € in 90% of cases now you are turned away with 10 € and online I have similar experience
And in the beginning I thought yes well will probably be imagination but I have now talked to different people and all have made similar experiences although they do not even know each other and do not play in the same hall
And even if you can stamp that even more as imagination my assumption was fully confirmed when looking at the deposits / payments of currently installed devices compared to TR.4 devices I have to ask a friend if he sends me times his numbers have here namely still old printouts of Tr.4 boxes lie then I can call you times numbers
Stromberg wrote on 04.05.2023 at 13:40:
So 100 x is I think not an average value for free spins, or I would not assume. This belongs for me rather to the better free spins from 100 x...
But not since the regulation, but always.
At the beginning I have zb much netent played many years ago, there were so 5 to 10 euros on 20 cents standard in the free spins.
I do not pay now and of course you can not generalize, but I would say 50 x is rather so the average win in free spins.
As for the threaderöffner, that was certainly not a good session, but far from what he has told here.
With the other statistics applies in my eyes what Touch the sky and I wrote, they say nothing about what would have been possible to win etc....
But in the end, the AQ are unfortunately underground at the licensed casinos, which even the manager does not deny.
For me it feels like more or less 1000 x wins are replaced by 500 x wins etc... So from the probability.
However, the whole thing is certainly not a StarGames-specific problem...
There is no average value per se. Probably the average is a bit worse than the 100x I mentioned, you may be right. It would be nice if Pragmatic offered a bonus feature at fair conditions But I still think that 80-90x should be a good average.
Yes, that the player here tells false facts, just to make the casino worse, I also do not find okay. However, I must also be critical of StarGames, that a casino gives out such data. I mean because of data protection and so.
Yes, these few games say nothing, except that it may have run moderately. For a more objective opinion, you would have to play in the long term. Could have been the other way around, so that 8 free spins run above average. The number of free spins is simply too little to say something good/bad about the casino. Moreover, you are right, the AQ is bad. Has almost gambling house level, although the number suggests otherwise.
I say it again and again: it is only logical that the casinos that follow German regulations do not do nearly as well as other licensed casinos. The main reason is that the max bet of 1€ also generates less revenue. Less turnover = less payout. Anyone who has played on high stakes knows how quickly thousands of euros can go away. At StarGames and co. you need longer. In addition, each player has 1k Deposit limit. The other reason: less turnover, because these slots are only switched for the special German market. An American, for example, still has the RTP of 96-97% at LOD. In addition, you also have to be clear about one thing: if you want to win a thousand euros with 1€, you have to land a 1000x hit. I have never had it online. Play but since nen year little slots, but does not matter that a 1000x+ hit is very rare. The "jackpot" at 1€ would be depending on the slot 5.000€ - 10.000€ and that is already the max. win.
Yes and that is exactly currently the main problem and thereby I can only say it does not matter whether regulated or unregulated before 2018 strictly speaking in my real active time of 14-17 there were such frustration results not and if it came to it very sporadically now it does not matter where the rule
If you had in the said time in the hall on 1 € the games you were guaranteed 100 € in 90% of cases now you are turned away with 10 € and online I have similar experience
And in the beginning I thought yes well will probably be imagination but I have now talked to different people and all have made similar experiences although they do not even know each other and do not play in the same hall
And even if you can stamp that even more as imagination my assumption was fully confirmed when looking at the deposits / payments of currently installed devices compared to TR.4 devices I have to ask a friend if he sends me his numbers have here namely still old printouts of Tr.4 boxes lie then I can call you times numbers
Unfortunately, I have no empirical values to be able to talk about it. But I also know that TR 4 was more "player friendly" than TR 5. That's why I'm glad that I'm slowly getting away from the slots. When I do play, it's Blackjack, because I can use a strategy to increase my chances of winning. This is not possible with slots. It's a program that determines whether you win or lose.
What's going on with StarGames???
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as long as it can be again not yet... otherwise you would have asked the question in english
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As an employee of such "casinos" you must have absolutely no conscience
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Definitely not a showcase statistic, Hammer 😔
Must have a look at me 🙈
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Hää what have the employees to do with it I think they can least for your stats...
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We have now looked at your sessions from 16.4. and unfortunately can not understand your statements. Here are our findings about your free spins on that day:
Game "Cash Connection - Charming Lady": received free spins three times. These brought
Game "Eye of Horus": received four free spins. These brought
Game "Sparta": received free spins once. These brought 27 euros on 50 cents bet.
Sorry, but your statements about once free spins and thus 30 cents win on 50 cents bet we can not understand from this data. That the RTP is reduced at all licensed casinos because of the German regulations and tax , is already known everywhere. But we can confirm that our RTP in April was 89.82%.
Thank you for your understanding.
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Regarding the other statistics, you should of course always consider the significance.
The fact that one is xy euros in the minus, does not mean that one would not be less in the minus or also in the plus, if one had paid out e.g. at an earlier time...
A large part of the win make bookie and casinos in my opinion not only the RTP, but also by the undisciplinarity of players
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or just play the wrong games
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You don't even get into the situation of being greedy because you don't win anything from the beginning gewinnt☝️
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So 100 x is I think not an average value for free spins, or I would not assume. This belongs for me rather to the better free spins from 100 x...
But not since the regulation, but always.
In the beginning I played a lot of netent many years ago, there were so 5 to 10 euros on 20 cents standard in the free spins.
I do not pay now and of course you can not generalize, but I would say 50 x is rather so the average win in free spins.
As for the threaderöffner, that was certainly not a good session, but far from what he has told here.
With the other statistics applies in my eyes what Touch the sky and I wrote, they say nothing about what would have been possible to win, etc...
But in the end, the AQ are unfortunately underground at the licensed casinos, which even the manager does not deny.
For me it feels like more or less 1000 x wins are replaced by 500 x wins etc... So from the probability.
Surely the whole thing is but also not a StarGames specific problem...
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Yes and that is exactly currently the main problem and in this I can only say it does not matter whether regulated or unregulated before 2018 taken exactly in my real active time of 14-17 there were such frustration results not and if it came to very isolated now it does not matter where the rule
If you had in the said time in the hall on 1 € the games you were guaranteed 100 € in 90% of cases now you are turned away with 10 € and online I have similar experience
And in the beginning I thought yes well will probably be imagination but I have now talked to different people and all have made similar experiences although they do not even know each other and do not play in the same hall
And even if you can stamp that even more as imagination my assumption was fully confirmed when looking at the deposits / payments of currently installed devices compared to TR.4 devices I have to ask a friend if he sends me times his numbers have here namely still old printouts of Tr.4 boxes lie then I can call you times numbers
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There is no average value per se. Probably the average is a bit worse than the 100x I mentioned, you may be right. It would be nice if Pragmatic offered a bonus feature at fair conditions But I still think that 80-90x should be a good average.
Yes, that the player here tells false facts, just to make the casino worse, I also do not find okay. However, I must also be critical of StarGames, that a casino gives out such data. I mean because of data protection and so.
Yes, these few games say nothing, except that it may have run moderately. For a more objective opinion, you would have to play in the long term. Could have been the other way around, so that 8 free spins run above average. The number of free spins is simply too little to say something good/bad about the casino. Moreover, you are right, the AQ is bad. Has almost gambling house level, although the number suggests otherwise.
I say it again and again: it is only logical that the casinos that follow German regulations do not do nearly as well as other licensed casinos. The main reason is that the max bet of 1€ also generates less revenue. Less turnover = less payout. Anyone who has played on high stakes knows how quickly thousands of euros can go away. At StarGames and co. you need longer. In addition, each player has 1k Deposit limit. The other reason: less turnover, because these slots are only switched for the special German market. An American, for example, still has the RTP of 96-97% at LOD. In addition, you also have to be clear about one thing: if you want to win a thousand euros with 1€, you have to land a 1000x hit. I have never had it online. Play but since nen year little slots, but does not matter that a 1000x+ hit is very rare. The "jackpot" at 1€ would be depending on the slot 5.000€ - 10.000€ and that is already the max. win.
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Unfortunately, I have no empirical values to be able to talk about it. But I also know that TR 4 was more "player friendly" than TR 5. That's why I'm glad that I'm slowly getting away from the slots. When I do play, it's Blackjack, because I can use a strategy to increase my chances of winning. This is not possible with slots. It's a program that determines whether you win or lose.
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