These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020
9th Oct. 2020, at 05:55 pm CEST#71
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ChillEffect wrote on 09.10.2020 at 15:26
Basically it is whole time already forbidden to play in Online Casinos except in Schleswig-Holstein. From dsher I will continue to play at vs, no matter if with or without german license
You are right of course, if Germany sees itself as the only true legislator
and continues to ignore Euro laws. But what will you do if all
Payment providers for com.de fail ?
These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020
9th Oct. 2020, at 06:08 pm CEST#72
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Royal777 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 17:47
You can win even on stakes under 1€. There are dozens of slots that have a high potential. The RTP will not change massively.
I see more often a 100,000x on 20cent than a 50,000x on 5€.
If you don't want to accept the payouts of 1€ on 10 lines at Book of Dead, you have to play 1 line on 1€, then you have your 10€ payouts
Sure Ed there are such slots. But... 1000x on 5€, is much more than 1000x on 1€😊😊. And 1000x is aufjedenfall to win
I personally turn from time to time on 5-10€ a line on BOD, and wins from such turns can not be compared with a line on 1€.
No matter how rare 50.000x occurs, you should have a chance to win it big (bet 4+€).
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9th Oct. 2020, at 06:14 pm CEST#73
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Klempo77 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 18:08
Sure Ed there are slots like that. But... 1000x on 5€, is much more than 1000x on 1€😊😊. And 1000x is aufjedenfall to win
I personally turn from time to time on 5-10€ a line on BOD, and wins from such turns can not be compared with a line on 1€.
No matter how rare 50.000x occurs, you should have a chance to win it big (bet 4+€).
That's true, with a bit of luck you can get relatively quickly a substantial win of 500x - 1,000x on 5€ bet.
On the other hand, it can take tens of thousands of spins, so you definitely lose more on higher stakes than on 1€, both in the short term and in the long term.
Just by the way, there will still be dozens of MGA casinos that will not adhere to the 1€ requirement.
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9th Oct. 2020, at 06:20 pm CEST#74
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Katharina2 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 17:55
You are right, of course, if Germany sees itself as the only, true legislator
and continues to ignore Euro laws. But what are you going to do if all
Payment providers for com.de fail ?
you don't really understand much. You think Germany is going it alone, but check out what is going on in other countries and especially in other EU countries. Germany is far behind in terms of Player protection and what is being negotiated here right now has long been common practice in other countries.
Also that the payment providers are restricted by the state is complete bullshit. It is their own decision to accept payments and forward them to the casinos and the state does not interfere. But now that they are more strictly controlled and regulated, there is no desire to conduct numerous lawsuits, because players can legally book their money back, which they have gambled away in an online casino without a valid German license
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9th Oct. 2020, at 06:51 pm CEST#75
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Lapalingo is from the 15th also as .de at the start
And Lapa is not a small animal!!! I think that with the 1 Euro maxbet ban of live casinos etc. sooner or later every OC will / must cooperate...
It was for years the talk but so serious was never... 1 Euro maxbet Hola the Wood Fairy
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9th Oct. 2020, at 06:54 pm CEST#76
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Katharina2 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 09:48
Yes, not with them, with payment providers(ZAB) already...... ... ... ..both: casinos and
Payment providers are just getting hot and grilled by D. We had
on 6. u. 7.10 a congress. Casinos can consider a German license
ZAB is prohibited from serving casinos without a German license.
Oh so that means the put TrustlyNetellerSkrill etc. under pressure that the create with the OCs that do not cooperate Not together ??? Do I understand this correctly?
These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020
9th Oct. 2020, at 07:05 pm CEST#77
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People if we are once erlich
Is but the best if there will be an authority where the player can be blocked centrally or if a player has problems with a payout he knows where and if he has to report it a panic button I also find right
For me personally, everything that comes super even the Live Casino comes away
I gamble 15J online and I was often ripped off by "reputable" casino
And there was also no gamble Joe
Where you help and not everyone knows English or wants to translate a text and send to Malta...
Those who have such a big face and crying rum because they can not Deposit more than 1k I understand not at all sorry for you I have Gakein understanding
There are more of the people like me
Who work normal and get a normal salary and from us no one pays more unless we have iwo won 5k
And exactly here this regulation protects my ass
I love Germany comes a little late but better than never
And I bet it should have come sooner but casino lobby stop
Exactly the same with ziggereretten
The deterrent pictures should have come earlier but the Philip Moris lobby postponed it for years....
So babert here no shit of DDR 2.0 or something like that
If the state is not careful
Who should then
Otherwise the rich do what they want
And fi...us properly
Peter8 wrote on 09.10.2020 at 19:05: people if we are once erlich
Is the best if there will be an authority where the player can be blocked centrally or if a player has problems with a payout he knows where and if he has to report it a panic button I also find right
For me personally, everything that comes super even the Live Casino comes away
I gamble 15J online and I was often ripped off by "reputable" casino
And there was also no gamble Joe
Where you help and not everyone knows English or wants to translate a text and send to Malta...
Those who have such a big face and crying rum because they can not Deposit more than 1k I understand not at all sorry for you I have Gakein understanding
There are more of the people like me
Who work normal and get a normal salary and from us no one pays more unless we have iwo won 5k
And exactly here this regulation protects my ass
I love Germany comes a little late but better than never
And I bet it should have come sooner but casino lobby stop
Exactly the same with ziggereretten
The deterrent pictures should have come earlier but the Philip Moris lobby postponed it for years....
So babert here no shit of DDR 2.0 or something like that
If the state is not careful
Who should then
Otherwise the rich do what they want
And fi...us properly
Goodbye self-responsibility Ban alcohol, there are millions of alcoholics. Abolish drugs, there are many who abuse drugs. Smoking forbid. Casinos restrict.... Sometime then still air to breathe regulate....
These casinos will withdraw from the German market in October 2020
9th Oct. 2020, at 07:26 pm CEST#79
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Metallica_88 wrote on 09/10/2020 at 18:54
Oh so that means they put TrustlyNetellerSkrill etc under pressure that they create with the OCs that don't cooperate Not together ???? Do I understand this correctly?
Under 'pressure' doesn't describe it properly, it was simply prohibited, ergo banned.
Payment service providers are rightly upset, after all it goes until July 2021.
Other than that, you got it right. This is all done by Pistorius, the head of Lower-
saxony for the whole of Germany. That's why our funds are not safe and every
2. Thread actually reports this tragedy by casinos withholding,
keeping silent, not paying at all, and keeping deposited funds from players.
A few days ago, they at least bothered to go through the verification
torture, but now less so. It is getting tight, time-wise, from 15.10. they will
withdraw or i- when acquire a license .de
But we should not get too hot and if D holds out with its new contract
is also the Auszahlungselend so-called serious casinos run. It is said in the GlüStV 'swiftly'
after request of the player and certain sum are transferred automatically.
No more 'petting zoo', but practices, as in the past, can be legally sanctioned
be punished. What is left for us are reputable casinos. One thing I have always wished for and
i believe the majority of players as well. Just on the side...but extremely important and
relieving.
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9th Oct. 2020, at 07:35 pm CEST#80
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Kleinkariert wrote on 09.10.2020 at 13:14
There is already a law to be worked out and confirmed. The points in it have also changed several times extremely. Just Deposit limit of 1000 € should not apply to some players if they have sufficient funds and no signs of Gambling addiction (how to check this is on another star). It was also already introduced that you have to have 1 hour break to gamble sports betting wins at the casino or vice versa. In addition, there should be a setting where from a certain amount of the balance is automatically paid out. Even funnier is the planned panic button, which should be placed easily accessible (everywhere where you can play) so that you are immediately locked after pressing 24 hours.
Otherwise you underestimate what is possible. VPN you can do, but there are casinos that point out with large wins then you have played with VPN and therefore the winnings are canceled. Has already happened and is guaranteed to happen with large wins, so rather dangerous with a few serious exceptions that will probably have a German license.
Payment providers can be made to comply with legal requirements, which then works through the banks that make it more difficult for the payment providers. Well visible in the fact that not everyone can use Trustly, if the bank no longer participates. E-wallets that do not comply are then put on a Blacklist of the bank. This is all already possible and is partly practiced.
The censorship of illegal content is allowed, this is already happening today with sites on which you can watch illegal streams or purchase prohibited goods. Most sites then reappear under a new domain, but that is then a cat-and-mouse game. It would have no problem in front of the BGH.
The only thing that is true is that the lobby of the gambling industry is very powerful, at the latest when Merkur and Novo are officially online again for DE, the laws will blur again. One tries to bring now by hard rules all to the agreement, one has already seen first weakenings and exceptions. I think that some rules will hold, but other things will be loosened
There is currently no law, there is a draft law - to be precise, the draft in Germany has the following title: "Draft law" and this title it carries until this is presented for consultation and vote and decided on the vote
Accordingly, there is currently no law and until it is decided there is still a long way to go
The whole thing could also still dissolve into thin air, I do not think that this will happen but in the end nothing is decided yet
With the VPN I give you right, one would give oneself on very thin ice
In the end, I just wanted to say, in principle, there would be a way to reach the unlicensed casinos
Personally, that would also not be an option for me
You can of course make it more difficult for the payment service Provider and possibly even force some to give up but not all
No e-wallet is necessarily dependent on the German banks
I can already top up my "MuchBetter" account via "Cash to Code" without any problems and I also don't need a German bank to withdraw my money again
Skrill or Neteller could easily follow suit and come up with something similar to Cash to Code
It's just not as simple as you make it out to be
First of all there has to be a law, then you can see if it really holds up in front of the BGH
I respect your opinion but see it completely differently
The BGH has already had something to say about many German laws and has partially overturned them with their decisions
Internet censorship in Germany is a very difficult topic
In the end, as I said, these are just my thoughts about it - I keep emphasizing it, I can and will be completely wrong about many things
I'm not an expert and I don't want to convey that here, but I don't see this gambling contract as simple and as a given
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You are right of course, if Germany sees itself as the only true legislator
and continues to ignore Euro laws. But what will you do if all
Payment providers for com.de fail ?
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Sure Ed there are such slots. But... 1000x on 5€, is much more than 1000x on 1€😊😊. And 1000x is aufjedenfall to win
I personally turn from time to time on 5-10€ a line on BOD, and wins from such turns can not be compared with a line on 1€.
No matter how rare 50.000x occurs, you should have a chance to win it big (bet 4+€).
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That's true, with a bit of luck you can get relatively quickly a substantial win of 500x - 1,000x on 5€ bet.
On the other hand, it can take tens of thousands of spins, so you definitely lose more on higher stakes than on 1€, both in the short term and in the long term.
Just by the way, there will still be dozens of MGA casinos that will not adhere to the 1€ requirement.
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you don't really understand much. You think Germany is going it alone, but check out what is going on in other countries and especially in other EU countries. Germany is far behind in terms of Player protection and what is being negotiated here right now has long been common practice in other countries.
Also that the payment providers are restricted by the state is complete bullshit. It is their own decision to accept payments and forward them to the casinos and the state does not interfere. But now that they are more strictly controlled and regulated, there is no desire to conduct numerous lawsuits, because players can legally book their money back, which they have gambled away in an online casino without a valid German license
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And Lapa is not a small animal!!! I think that with the 1 Euro maxbet ban of live casinos etc. sooner or later every OC will / must cooperate...
It was for years the talk but so serious was never... 1 Euro maxbet Hola the Wood Fairy
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Oh so that means the put Trustly Neteller Skrill etc. under pressure that the create with the OCs that do not cooperate Not together ??? Do I understand this correctly?
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Is but the best if there will be an authority where the player can be blocked centrally or if a player has problems with a payout he knows where and if he has to report it a panic button I also find right
For me personally, everything that comes super even the Live Casino comes away
I gamble 15J online and I was often ripped off by "reputable" casino
And there was also no gamble Joe
Where you help and not everyone knows English or wants to translate a text and send to Malta...
Those who have such a big face and crying rum because they can not Deposit more than 1k I understand not at all sorry for you I have Gakein understanding
There are more of the people like me
Who work normal and get a normal salary and from us no one pays more unless we have iwo won 5k
And exactly here this regulation protects my ass
I love Germany comes a little late but better than never
And I bet it should have come sooner but casino lobby stop
Exactly the same with ziggereretten
The deterrent pictures should have come earlier but the Philip Moris lobby postponed it for years....
So babert here no shit of DDR 2.0 or something like that
If the state is not careful
Who should then
Otherwise the rich do what they want
And fi...us properly
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Goodbye self-responsibility Ban alcohol, there are millions of alcoholics. Abolish drugs, there are many who abuse drugs. Smoking forbid. Casinos restrict.... Sometime then still air to breathe regulate....
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Under 'pressure' doesn't describe it properly, it was simply prohibited, ergo banned.
Payment service providers are rightly upset, after all it goes until July 2021.
Other than that, you got it right. This is all done by Pistorius, the head of Lower-
saxony for the whole of Germany. That's why our funds are not safe and every
2. Thread actually reports this tragedy by casinos withholding,
keeping silent, not paying at all, and keeping deposited funds from players.
A few days ago, they at least bothered to go through the verification
torture, but now less so. It is getting tight, time-wise, from 15.10. they will
withdraw or i- when acquire a license .de
But we should not get too hot and if D holds out with its new contract
is also the Auszahlungselend so-called serious casinos run. It is said in the GlüStV 'swiftly'
after request of the player and certain sum are transferred automatically.
No more 'petting zoo', but practices, as in the past, can be legally sanctioned
be punished. What is left for us are reputable casinos. One thing I have always wished for and
i believe the majority of players as well. Just on the side...but extremely important and
relieving.
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There is currently no law, there is a draft law - to be precise, the draft in Germany has the following title: "Draft law" and this title it carries until this is presented for consultation and vote and decided on the vote
Accordingly, there is currently no law and until it is decided there is still a long way to go
The whole thing could also still dissolve into thin air, I do not think that this will happen but in the end nothing is decided yet
With the VPN I give you right, one would give oneself on very thin ice
In the end, I just wanted to say, in principle, there would be a way to reach the unlicensed casinos
Personally, that would also not be an option for me
You can of course make it more difficult for the payment service Provider and possibly even force some to give up but not all
No e-wallet is necessarily dependent on the German banks
I can already top up my "MuchBetter" account via "Cash to Code" without any problems and I also don't need a German bank to withdraw my money again
Skrill or Neteller could easily follow suit and come up with something similar to Cash to Code
It's just not as simple as you make it out to be
First of all there has to be a law, then you can see if it really holds up in front of the BGH
I respect your opinion but see it completely differently
The BGH has already had something to say about many German laws and has partially overturned them with their decisions
Internet censorship in Germany is a very difficult topic
In the end, as I said, these are just my thoughts about it - I keep emphasizing it, I can and will be completely wrong about many things
I'm not an expert and I don't want to convey that here, but I don't see this gambling contract as simple and as a given
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