You can't help people like that anymore. Take off your aluhut and stop gambling, it will surely do you good. All the bozos who rant about fraud here just want to justify their losses.
Winning is the exception and winning a lot is the bigger exception. As a rule, the house wins. Understand that.
With that, in a very rude way, you're not saying anything different than I am! And that then has to do with luck or bad luck that almost always the house wins? Dream on... If it is about a random principle, then the result would not be so. And I wrote directly, it's my experience. That doesn't give you the right to be insulting.
Frankey wrote on 05/20/2023 at 00:04: Judge: " So you want your losses back from online casino "....." because it offered illegal games?"
Player: " Yes is all listed in the betting history ".
Judge: " I see the wins are also listed there......
Player: " Yes"
Judge: .....all the wins and losses from their participation in illegal gambling... right?
Player:....uhh yes ...."
Judge: " Were you forced to Deposit and participate in the illegal gambling by the casino in any way?"
Player .....n-n-no....
........
Sorry, but rarely read something so moronic. In the courts, the current rather runs like this:
Player: I want my money back.
Frankfurt Higher Regional Court: No problem, the law is on your side.
Player: I want my money back, that is from the online casino.
Munich Higher Regional Court: That is their right. Shall be!
Player: I want my money back from the online casino and somehow I also suspected that all this is not quite legal.
Munich Higher Regional Court: No problem. The casino must pay you back their losses. That's the way the law wants it.
Player: I lost a lot of money at the online casino. I want my losses back.
Higher Regional Court of Cologne, Koblenz, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Karlsruhe: Düsseldorf: We award you these claims!!! Get your losses back from the online casino!
And if you ask yourself now, where there are all the judgments with file number. E.g. here: www.gluecksspielforderung.de. By the way, the judgment of the OLG Karlsruhe is also published there.
Please stop spreading any nonsense here. Not even as a gambler. Thank you.
Thanks for your answer. Do you mean because they don't want to say it or because it doesn't happen ? It may be that the courts agree with you, it sounds logical. But what should make OC based in Malta, Curaco etc. pay? If that were the case, PC VV and Co. would have already made a long time in DE dricht?
With that, in a very rude way, you are not saying anything different than I am! And then that has to do with luck or bad luck that the house almost always wins? Dream on... If it's about a random principle, then the result wouldn't be like that. And I wrote directly, it is my experience. That doesn't give you the right to be insulting.
"Luck" in gambling is more about being in the right place at the right time. Example: 2,000x win at Gigantoonz. Would that have happened if I had played the slot 10 minutes earlier or later?
When I play a slot, I know that the money is most likely gone. Everything else is luck. Whoever goes to gambling with a different attitude, should rather leave it alone.
Surely "luck" in gambling is more about being in the right place at the right time. Example: 2,000x win on Gigantoonz. Would that have come even if I had played the slot 10 minutes earlier or later?
When I play a slot, I know that the money is most likely gone. Everything else is luck. If you have a different attitude towards gambling, you should not gamble at all.
In principle you are right and it is as you write. But Marie has a point that I could never explain to me until today. If each slot then knocks out, if the coincidence so wants, how do you explain that there are actually phases, where All Slots at the same time well knock out. She said you can play what you want then, the slots are doing remarkably well. And that's across manufacturers.
For me a mystery which I could never explain satisfactorily. Now, of course, you can say that this is also a coincidence. Possible, but imho unlikely.
Now to my VT. If one logs in in the Casino it is already certain at this time whether it becomes generally rather a good or bad session. Something like a global, cross-game RNG in the casino. Probably this RNG is reseted by a new deposit. A possible justification to the statement, after several deposits it suddenly ran.
But as I said, only ne VT...
Begbie wrote on 20.05.2023 at 11:00 am:
In principle you are right and it is as you write. But Marie has one point that I have never been able to explain to myself either until today. If every slot then knocks out when chance wants it that way, how do you explain that there are actually phases where All Slots knock out well at the same time. She said you can play what you want then, the slots are doing remarkably well. And that's across manufacturers.
For me a mystery which I could never explain satisfactorily. Now, of course, you can say that this is also a coincidence. Possible, but imho unlikely.
Now to my VT. If one logs in in the Casino it is already certain at this time whether it becomes generally rather a good or bad session. Something like a global, cross-game RNG in the casino. Probably this RNG is reseted by a new deposit. A possible justification to the statement, after several deposits it suddenly ran.
But as I said, only ne VT...
Such phases where just everything runs I also know and not only online on offline and there it will be just also luck or you catch a day where the odds are turned to right
Begbie wrote on 20.05.2023 at 11:00 am:
In principle you are right and it is as you write. But Marie has one point that I have never been able to explain to myself either until today. If every slot then knocks out when chance wants it that way, how do you explain that there are actually phases where All Slots knock out well at the same time. She said you can play what you want then, the slots are doing remarkably well. And that's across manufacturers.
For me a mystery which I could never explain satisfactorily. Now, of course, you can say that this is also a coincidence. Possible, but imho unlikely.
Now to my VT. If one logs in in the Casino it is already certain at this time whether it becomes generally rather a good or bad session. Something like a global, cross-game RNG in the casino. Probably this RNG is reseted by a new deposit. A possible justification to the statement, after several deposits it suddenly ran.
But as I said, only ne VT...
Is just nonsense. For one thing, slots can not run well at the same time, unless you are one of those "I have four slots open at the same time" specialists.
Furthermore, what does "run well" mean? In my opinion, this is a subjective assessment. For one person, good means that he can play with his Bullet for a very long time, and for another, perhaps, it means that he is making a very high win. (Very high - x times - are very rare btw)
All conspiracy theories are just this. Theories born out of the subjective feelings of the players. As a rule, they are groundless and not factually provable (unless we are talking about casinos that offer fake slots etc.)
All conspiracy theories are just that. Theories born out of the subjective feelings of the players. Usually these are baseless and not factually provable (Unless we are talking about casinos that offer fake slots etc)
Sorry, but rarely read something so moronic. In the courts, this is currently going on more like this:
Player: I want my money back.
Frankfurt Higher Regional Court: No problem, the law is on your side.
Player: I want my money back, that is from the online casino.
Munich Higher Regional Court: That is their right. Shall be!
Player: I want my money back from the online casino and somehow I also suspected that all this is not quite legal.
Munich Higher Regional Court: No problem. The casino must pay you back their losses. That's the way the law wants it.
Player: I lost a lot of money at the online casino. I want my losses back.
Higher Regional Court of Cologne, Koblenz, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Karlsruhe: Düsseldorf: We award you these claims!!! Get your losses back from the online casino!
And if you ask yourself now, where there are all the judgments with file number. E.g. here: www.gluecksspielforderung.de. By the way, the judgment of the OLG Karlsruhe is also published there.
Please stop spreading any nonsense here. Not even as a gambler. Thank you.
Thanks, for the hint, but I always look at Justiz.de when I search for court rulings. Is the official portal for such things from the Ministry of Justice. There you can also find the judgments where the players did not get right, They are somehow completely missing on the page you linked. There you read
"There have already been X thousand cases successfully mediated...." Wow! Strong words that now what exactly say? May be that the judgments are legally binding, what I am missing are concrete statements that the casinos have paid.
Should the casinos really return all the money, great, but since the players carry a certain complicity because they participated in illegal gambling, it would also be appropriate if the judgment says ' Casino has to pay back all the losses of the player. 50% to players 50% to ...good cause...or is.
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you should be sued in the same way participation in illegal gambling ....equal to double the penalty
Shame on you !
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Player: "Yes, everything is listed in the betting history".
Judge: " I see that the wins are also listed there......
Player: " Yes"
Judge: .....all wins and losses from their participation in illegal gambling... correct?
Player:....uhh yes ...."
Judge: " Were you forced to Deposit and participate in the illegal gambling by the casino in any way?"
Player .....n-n-no....
........
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With that, in a very rude way, you're not saying anything different than I am! And that then has to do with luck or bad luck that almost always the house wins? Dream on... If it is about a random principle, then the result would not be so. And I wrote directly, it's my experience. That doesn't give you the right to be insulting.
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Sorry, but rarely read something so moronic. In the courts, the current rather runs like this:
Player: I want my money back.
Frankfurt Higher Regional Court: No problem, the law is on your side.
Player: I want my money back, that is from the online casino.
Munich Higher Regional Court: That is their right. Shall be!
Player: I want my money back from the online casino and somehow I also suspected that all this is not quite legal.
Munich Higher Regional Court: No problem. The casino must pay you back their losses. That's the way the law wants it.
Player: I lost a lot of money at the online casino. I want my losses back.
Higher Regional Court of Cologne, Koblenz, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Karlsruhe: Düsseldorf: We award you these claims!!! Get your losses back from the online casino!
And if you ask yourself now, where there are all the judgments with file number. E.g. here: www.gluecksspielforderung.de. By the way, the judgment of the OLG Karlsruhe is also published there.
Please stop spreading any nonsense here. Not even as a gambler. Thank you.
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Thank you for visiting.
Over there is the door, don't fall on your way out.
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The difference between civil litigation and criminal litigation mean anything to you?
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"Luck" in gambling is more about being in the right place at the right time. Example: 2,000x win at Gigantoonz. Would that have happened if I had played the slot 10 minutes earlier or later?
When I play a slot, I know that the money is most likely gone. Everything else is luck. Whoever goes to gambling with a different attitude, should rather leave it alone.
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In principle you are right and it is as you write. But Marie has a point that I could never explain to me until today. If each slot then knocks out, if the coincidence so wants, how do you explain that there are actually phases, where All Slots at the same time well knock out. She said you can play what you want then, the slots are doing remarkably well. And that's across manufacturers.
For me a mystery which I could never explain satisfactorily. Now, of course, you can say that this is also a coincidence. Possible, but imho unlikely.
Now to my VT. If one logs in in the Casino it is already certain at this time whether it becomes generally rather a good or bad session. Something like a global, cross-game RNG in the casino. Probably this RNG is reseted by a new deposit. A possible justification to the statement, after several deposits it suddenly ran.
But as I said, only ne VT...
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Such phases where just everything runs I also know and not only online on offline and there it will be just also luck or you catch a day where the odds are turned to right
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Is just nonsense. For one thing, slots can not run well at the same time, unless you are one of those "I have four slots open at the same time" specialists.
Furthermore, what does "run well" mean? In my opinion, this is a subjective assessment. For one person, good means that he can play with his Bullet for a very long time, and for another, perhaps, it means that he is making a very high win. (Very high - x times - are very rare btw)
All conspiracy theories are just this. Theories born out of the subjective feelings of the players. As a rule, they are groundless and not factually provable (unless we are talking about casinos that offer fake slots etc.)
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And now????? All posts here refer to civil cases. Those who can read are clearly at an advantage.
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Yes, and that's why it's completely gaga to write about a criminal offense of illegal gambling being at issue in these hearings.
Did you even catch what I was responding to? Maybe you should get the benefit of reading.
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Very well brought to the point.
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Thanks, for the hint, but I always look at Justiz.de when I search for court rulings. Is the official portal for such things from the Ministry of Justice. There you can also find the judgments where the players did not get right, They are somehow completely missing on the page you linked. There you read
"There have already been X thousand cases successfully mediated...." Wow! Strong words that now what exactly say? May be that the judgments are legally binding, what I am missing are concrete statements that the casinos have paid.
Should the casinos really return all the money, great, but since the players carry a certain complicity because they participated in illegal gambling, it would also be appropriate if the judgment says ' Casino has to pay back all the losses of the player. 50% to players 50% to ...good cause...or is.
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