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21st Sep. 2020, at 01:31 am CEST#81
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Sindragosa wrote on 09/21/2020 at 00:44: I have no idea after all
My mother is accused Section 284 Unauthorized organization of a game of chance
Section 284 Unauthorized organization of a game of chance
(1) Anyone who publicly organizes or holds a game of chance or provides the facilities for this purpose without official permission shall be punished by imprisonment of up to two years or a fine.
(2) Games of chance in clubs or closed societies in which games of chance are habitually organized shall also be deemed to be publicly organized.
(3) Whoever in the cases of paragraph 1 1.
commercially or
2.
acts as a member of a gang which has joined forces to commit such acts on a continuous basis,
shall be punished by imprisonment from three months to five years.
(4) Whoever advertises a public game of chance (paragraphs 1 and 2) shall be punished by imprisonment of up to one year or a fine.
The lawyer said that online casino belongs to public events (which I can not imagine that it belongs).
It's bad enough that she thinks she won't get the win, she's panicking about being punished!
This is an outrage.
I only have the garnishment order for the account from the prosecutor's office.
She has not received anything in writing that she is accused of.
Normally you get something ?
Thanks I have read everything
You are not particularly credible!!!!
Falko wrote on 09/21/2020 at 01:23 PM
Maybe you also have the wrong lawyer. Here in the thread was also recommended by a mod a lawyer who is the right address for problems in gambling. Through exactly this lawyer, the woman in the thread had her 45 000 from the prosecutor's office then get back. With your sum I would advise you to go to the same lawyer Hambach & Hambach. The lawyer you have now, which is perhaps not so much specialized in this area.
Sindragosa wrote on 09/21/2020 at 01:43 PM
Thank you very much for the tip.
Gladly and I would like it if you continue to report here about your case and contact but times the next few days beidiesem lawyer. He will tell you on the phone how your chances are. You can also send the letter to the mail and then he can start to respond. He should be really good this Hambach.
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21st Sep. 2020, at 01:50 am CEST#85
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Sindragosa wrote on 09/21/2020 at 01:43 PM
Or can you justify in what way I am untrustworthy?
Can you roughly imagine to what extent this case would arouse public interest?
Such a crime, still involving such a large sum, would have been published! Many media incl. Gamblejoe would have reported on such a case, which did not happen. Since the money was already confiscated, as you think, some time has also passed. As a rule, the money is always a little blocked at the bank first
If something is accused, it is money laundering and even about it would have read!
Daniel wrote on 08/13/2019 at 17:28: I hope I'm not doing JessBabe88 wrong. But I'm always skeptical about cases like this. The last two times the story turned out to be fake. Fakes from frustrated players who lost their money and wanted to unsettle other players with their postings to harm the Online Casinos and take revenge.
Theoretically, however, it would also be conceivable that this case is real. Be that as it may, I have already communicated with the user and recommended the law firm Hambach & Hambach to her: https://www.timelaw.de/de/startseite/
This law firm specializes in such cases and, as far as I know, they also helped the master painter to his acquittal in the second instance.
I think with the memminger public prosecutor's office this did not get around yet. I am convinced that it will not even come here to a court case.
For example, I have neither mentioned the name of an online casino nor have I said that the said casino has NOT paid out the win
In addition, I am not an online casino or a casino player in general
I have merely described a problem
Therefore, I ask myself all the time why some must claim that my "story" is unbelievable?
Jokerboy wrote on 09/21/2020 at 01:50 AM
Can you roughly imagine to what extent this case would arouse public interest?
Such a crime, still involving such a large sum, would have been publicized! Many media incl. Gamblejoe would have reported on such a case, which did not happen. Since the money was already confiscated, as you think, some time has also passed. As a rule, the money is always a little blocked at the bank first
If something is accused, it is money laundering and even about it would have read!
Yes I can imagine, but it is not my case but that of my mother
My account was blocked only because she has transferred me without asking me (as a surprise) 300k of 1/2 million!
The only thing I think about is that it was only not (yet) published because it is going on with illegal things! Because I read on the one hand it is illegal to play and on the other hand the players get their wins in the end.
I repeat myself. The money is blocked on the account! It should be done on a "daily account" and linger there until there is a decision / judgment or what I know what!
In the letter from the lawyer to the prosecutor's office of 3 September 2020 is the following in it, I quote
On the part of our client and her son, there is the binding willingness to pay the garnished amounts in the total amount of 500,000.00 € to a blocked account, if this is associated with the release of the accounts
An agreement with the seizure and a possible forthcoming confiscation is expressly not connected with it.
Falko wrote on 09/21/2020 at 01:23 PM
Maybe you also have the wrong lawyer. Here in the thread was also recommended by a mod a lawyer who is the right address for problems in gambling. Through exactly this lawyer, the woman in the thread had her 45 000 from the prosecutor's office then get back. With your sum I would advise you to go to the same lawyer Hambach & Hambach. The lawyer you have now, which is perhaps not so much specialized in this area.
The law firm is located in Munich and that is Bavaria.
We are in Baden-Württemberg.
Our lawyer is located locally.
I don't know if that makes a difference?
And what about withdrawing the mandate from a lawyer and hiring a new one?
That will be really expensive
And no one can confirm whether there is a 100% chance of success
My mother is 61 years old and ill. She works a physically hard job and psychologically she is not the same anymore.
I just feel so sorry for her. She would have deserved the money so much. That would help her a lot.
In addition, she has suffered a lot of injustice in life and is therefore a broken person.
I just hope that everything turns out really well.
If you had won the money in a normal casino such as in Constance on Lake Constance, then no one could have said anything
She has also played online because she is afraid to be seen with a win because she feels quickly times pursued
She does not want to be observed what I can also understand.
However, I am not a fan of gambling in general!
Have always told her to let it be
Then she has just once had a huge luck and then something like this.
She did not know that it is forbidden to play online, especially since it is advertised everywhere.
On the said casino site were even countries in which the game NOT is allowed or permitted!
Why the hell is Germany then permitted, if it is not the case?
The fault lies not with the consumer / player but with those who get no clarity in this legal gray area on the row!
What else is important to me for all those reading along
It's not about to vulture the money because any luxury goods must be bought.
It is for Debt relief and freedom!
She can pay her debts. And the few years that remain to her can spend more beautiful!
Debts she has suffered only through injustices and strokes of fate in her life
She is not to blame for the situation and I support her wherever I can
I work full time in retail and have to put up with a lot.
But I do it for her or for us
She was there for me when I was young, small and stupid or did stupid things.
I don't leave her alone.
And that the state now wants to take away her win I think is the very last thing
If the online gambling would be clearly regulated then it would be a completely different thing, but that is not so!
She would also never do anything forbidden to it she is much too scared.
I had to let this out. It's 02:55 and I just can't sleep because this thing is bothering me a lot.
My head is full
How would you fare in such a situation?
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21st Sep. 2020, at 03:14 am CEST#90
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Sindragosa wrote on 09/21/2020 at 02:18 PM
Yes I can imagine, but it is not my case but my mother's
My account was blocked only because she transferred me 300k of 1/2 mil without asking me (as a surprise)!
The only thing I think about is that it was only not (yet) published because it is going on with illegal things! Because I read on the one hand it is illegal to play and on the other hand the players get their wins in the end.
I repeat myself. The money is blocked on the account! It should be done on a "daily account" and linger there until there is a decision / judgment or what I know what!
In the letter from the lawyer to the prosecutor's office of 3 September 2020, it says the following, I quote
On the part of our client and her son, there is a binding willingness to pay the garnished amounts in the total amount of 500,000.00 € to a blocked account, if this is associated with the release of the accounts
An agreement with the seizure and a possible forthcoming confiscation is expressly not connected with it.
Okay, but then you are still at the beginning. I had understood that to mean that the prosecution had already taken the money. Which is not so according to your post, but it is first "temporarily stored". Accordingly, nothing has been decided yet and the past in such cases has always shown that people were allowed to keep their money
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Thanks I have read everything
You are not particularly credible!!!!
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If you don't believe me then save your comments.
I have no more desire from any statements to have to read out that I am untrustworthy
Or can you justify how far I am untrustworthy?
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Thank you very much for the tip.
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Gladly and I would like it if you continue to report here about your case and contact but times the next few days beidiesem lawyer. He will tell you on the phone how your chances are. You can also send the letter to the mail and then he can start to respond. He should be really good this Hambach.
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Can you roughly imagine to what extent this case would arouse public interest?
Such a crime, still involving such a large sum, would have been published! Many media incl. Gamblejoe would have reported on such a case, which did not happen. Since the money was already confiscated, as you think, some time has also passed. As a rule, the money is always a little blocked at the bank first
If something is accused, it is money laundering and even about it would have read!
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For example, I have neither mentioned the name of an online casino nor have I said that the said casino has NOT paid out the win
In addition, I am not an online casino or a casino player in general
I have merely described a problem
Therefore, I ask myself all the time why some must claim that my "story" is unbelievable?
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Yes I can imagine, but it is not my case but that of my mother
My account was blocked only because she has transferred me without asking me (as a surprise) 300k of 1/2 million!
The only thing I think about is that it was only not (yet) published because it is going on with illegal things! Because I read on the one hand it is illegal to play and on the other hand the players get their wins in the end.
I repeat myself. The money is blocked on the account! It should be done on a "daily account" and linger there until there is a decision / judgment or what I know what!
In the letter from the lawyer to the prosecutor's office of 3 September 2020 is the following in it, I quote
On the part of our client and her son, there is the binding willingness to pay the garnished amounts in the total amount of 500,000.00 € to a blocked account, if this is associated with the release of the accounts
An agreement with the seizure and a possible forthcoming confiscation is expressly not connected with it.
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The law firm is located in Munich and that is Bavaria.
We are in Baden-Württemberg.
Our lawyer is located locally.
I don't know if that makes a difference?
And what about withdrawing the mandate from a lawyer and hiring a new one?
That will be really expensive
And no one can confirm whether there is a 100% chance of success
My mother is 61 years old and ill. She works a physically hard job and psychologically she is not the same anymore.
I just feel so sorry for her. She would have deserved the money so much. That would help her a lot.
In addition, she has suffered a lot of injustice in life and is therefore a broken person.
I just hope that everything turns out really well.
If you had won the money in a normal casino such as in Constance on Lake Constance, then no one could have said anything
She has also played online because she is afraid to be seen with a win because she feels quickly times pursued
She does not want to be observed what I can also understand.
However, I am not a fan of gambling in general!
Have always told her to let it be
Then she has just once had a huge luck and then something like this.
She did not know that it is forbidden to play online, especially since it is advertised everywhere.
On the said casino site were even countries in which the game NOT is allowed or permitted!
Why the hell is Germany then permitted, if it is not the case?
The fault lies not with the consumer / player but with those who get no clarity in this legal gray area on the row!
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What else is important to me for all those reading along
It's not about to vulture the money because any luxury goods must be bought.
It is for Debt relief and freedom!
She can pay her debts. And the few years that remain to her can spend more beautiful!
Debts she has suffered only through injustices and strokes of fate in her life
She is not to blame for the situation and I support her wherever I can
I work full time in retail and have to put up with a lot.
But I do it for her or for us
She was there for me when I was young, small and stupid or did stupid things.
I don't leave her alone.
And that the state now wants to take away her win I think is the very last thing
If the online gambling would be clearly regulated then it would be a completely different thing, but that is not so!
She would also never do anything forbidden to it she is much too scared.
I had to let this out. It's 02:55 and I just can't sleep because this thing is bothering me a lot.
My head is full
How would you fare in such a situation?
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Okay, but then you are still at the beginning. I had understood that to mean that the prosecution had already taken the money. Which is not so according to your post, but it is first "temporarily stored". Accordingly, nothing has been decided yet and the past in such cases has always shown that people were allowed to keep their money
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