Begbie wrote on 01/15/2020 at 10:22 pm
omg how bad.
that was just an observation, without jmd specific to have meant.
that most users here, including me, have a problem with gambling should be clear or cpt obvious?
Did not refer to me, but your statements tend to want to nip any discussion in the bud. You can just say that the discussion about RTP is unnecessary because it usually does not change the odds, instead you portray everyone who is somewhat concerned with it as an addict.
For me the RTP is important when I play online, I don't want to play 92 - 94 % slots at Aspire. I can play offline with a better atmosphere. But I am not so strict that I let my game selection be limited by it and also play slots with lower RTPs. The RTP is only important to me for which casino I choose, one that always offers the lowest version or one that always gets the highest for the player.
But with both I will have lost the money in the end. The result will therefore not change significantly.
someone who plays from time to time usually doesn't care about the RTP at all.
only people who play more intensively are interested in it.
and most of the time someone who plays intensively is also addicted to gambling or has tendencies to it.
but you can certainly find more flowery adjectives, that may be *g*
You can try to build up some pressure by mentioning that this process was processed at the casino group XYZ in half the time and to your complete satisfaction. Or flirt with how well & long you are networked in various forums such as gamblejoe, casinomeister, etc..
In OC's work to over 95% lateral entrants, so better laymen. No specialists, experts and only very few specialists. Means they have to look for help themselves first. Keeping them on their toes is the quickest way.
My case has now been to the games department, but they couldn't track down the differences either. Now it goes on to the technical department
By the way, it may also be that my loss of almost 13 thousand euros has arisen precisely because my rtp does not match the one because it may not have been recorded
Even the support staff said with an average bet of 40 cents it is strange to have 13k minus with 200 thousand spins.... Would understand it if I had turned to 2 or 5 euros bet ..
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Kleinkariert wrote on 14.01.2020 at 23:00
Far more players come to the theoretical RTP value. In normal cases a few percent deviation after about 100,000 spins in extreme cases 1,000,000 but from then on you are actually always close to the RTP.
Unfortunately, people often confuse RTP with the payout ratio. But 20% RTP for a long time I have rarely seen, even if it goes very badly is often still at 60%. All intermediate winnings count as well.
But you have to ask yourself if you can play up to the RTP balance. Thus one has in absolute amount usually more loss
i think you are confusing here something because the official rtp value
is issued by the slot Provider and is not based on the
results of any players.
it may be that the manufacturer runs the game on more than one machine
and then calculates an average. but that's it. the official rtp value
the official rtp value is also not a lifetime value that is always updated
is updated again and again. before release is tested and then the
value
if you don't tell us which slot it is and how many spins you have made on which bet, we can't help you.
if you play starburst the rtp should settle relatively quickly after more than 1000 spins
but if you play for example jammin jars or other extremely high Variance games you should not be surprised because the rtp can be around 86 percent even after 100000 spins.
vomvom12 wrote on 24.01.2020 at 00:29
i think you are confusing something here because the official rtp value
is given out by the slot Provider and is not based on the
results of any player.
it may be that the manufacturer runs the game on more than one machine
more than one machine and then calculates an average. but that's it
the official rtp value is also not a lifetime value that is always updated
is updated again and again. before release is tested and then the
value
The RTP of the manufacturer is tested, there are a lot of spins made. If you make a lot of spins yourself, you will eventually end up in the vicinity. With some games this takes much longer because they simply have more potential and possibilities, but with Starburst you should get very very close after 500 000 to 1 000 000 spins.
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Did not refer to me, but your statements tend to want to nip any discussion in the bud. You can just say that the discussion about RTP is unnecessary because it usually does not change the odds, instead you portray everyone who is somewhat concerned with it as an addict.
For me the RTP is important when I play online, I don't want to play 92 - 94 % slots at Aspire. I can play offline with a better atmosphere. But I am not so strict that I let my game selection be limited by it and also play slots with lower RTPs. The RTP is only important to me for which casino I choose, one that always offers the lowest version or one that always gets the highest for the player.
But with both I will have lost the money in the end. The result will therefore not change significantly.
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only people who play more intensively are interested in it.
and most of the time someone who plays intensively is also addicted to gambling or has tendencies to it.
but you can certainly find more flowery adjectives, that may be *g*
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In OC's work to over 95% lateral entrants, so better laymen. No specialists, experts and only very few specialists. Means they have to look for help themselves first. Keeping them on their toes is the quickest way.
Oh, and good luck with your MRI!
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By the way, it may also be that my loss of almost 13 thousand euros has arisen precisely because my rtp does not match the one because it may not have been recorded
Even the support staff said with an average bet of 40 cents it is strange to have 13k minus with 200 thousand spins.... Would understand it if I had turned to 2 or 5 euros bet ..
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i think you are confusing here something because the official rtp value
is issued by the slot Provider and is not based on the
results of any players.
it may be that the manufacturer runs the game on more than one machine
and then calculates an average. but that's it. the official rtp value
the official rtp value is also not a lifetime value that is always updated
is updated again and again. before release is tested and then the
value
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if you play starburst the rtp should settle relatively quickly after more than 1000 spins
but if you play for example jammin jars or other extremely high Variance games you should not be surprised because the rtp can be around 86 percent even after 100000 spins.
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The RTP of the manufacturer is tested, there are a lot of spins made. If you make a lot of spins yourself, you will eventually end up in the vicinity. With some games this takes much longer because they simply have more potential and possibilities, but with Starburst you should get very very close after 500 000 to 1 000 000 spins.
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