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Online Casinos in general: Gambeljoe supports scammers? Softswiss Casinos in the Toplist! (Page 6)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2021 | Page: 6 of 19 | Answers: 189 | Views: 33,253
Goeki72
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30th Jan. 2021, at 08:52 pm CET#51
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Gamblejoe is the most reputable comparison site I know. Anyone can rate casinos here and no curacoa stalls are advertised like elsewhere.

N1 casino even locks the games you can't play with bonus.

Even when criminals launder money. At the end of the day, it's all about the service.
We players are not Interpol...

Most of us here have lost a few thousand in a few days in Antilauf - it was a learning experience.
If you run hot then you lose even on slots with RTP over 100%...






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YungKafa12
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30th Jan. 2021, at 08:53 pm CET#52
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Matthlign wrote on 30.01.2021 at 20:19: The thread creator of course has every right to be critical here and the casino's mentioned are stores that I personally have always avoided - so nothing that blows me away now
Black sheep on the market, nothing new
Whether these should really be listed here, you can argue about it

Also, the approach that possibly the lists should be revised and some casinos should definitely be subjected to a new evaluation, in my opinion, is also out of the question.
There are some casinos that are listed here, which should not have such good ratings for a long time, as XY months / years ago when they were first tested by the team

Up to this point, I think you can follow the creator of this topic and at least partially right

However, the contribution was much too emotional in my opinion

A statement like "...I could sleep the night only badly..." (this is not the exact wording but it is analogous) I personally find rather questionable
As I said, it's nothing really new that there are black sheep on the market and to be taken away so emotionally?
Well, I book it once under "each person is different"

At the same time, the seemingly boiling emotions have led to the criticism of the GJ team, in my opinion, a bit too harsh
Therefore I can understand Matthias, which one noticed, which he was somewhat displeased
This side here is now once also business and who should not be clear that the whole here must be financed somehow and the ladies and gentlemen here want to earn money and also must around their living to make, which should not go over go and perhaps again back to the start and think over what that is here for a side
The team here does a good job overall, offers us a good platform and has already helped many a player to his right

I can't take the video seriously, neither can the "buddy" who lives in Malta and has been gathering information
No evidence, no sources, nothing
Nevertheless, one thing is quite clear, black sheep exist, even more than we as players would like to be but to be aware of this, I do not need a badly made YouTube video or other questionable theories of questionable people on the Internet
By questionable I don't mean the author though, I think his real intention for this post was to help, not to out himself as an aluhut wearer

What remains in the end, who plays in online casino's not only runs the Risk of losing his money due to "no luck", but can also always have bad luck and to dubious providers devices and lose his money so in the end despite the necessary portion of "luck" in advance yet
However, this is old hat and everyone should be aware of it
Everything has an end only the sausage has two, in this sense

Thank you for your contribution and your constructive criticism. Yes, it may well be that I am at one or the other point emotionally overshot the mark. Yes, I do not take everything from the video at face value, and yes the black sheep in the business are familiar to me somewhere


With the "the night can not sleep" it was now times in such a way that I normally attribute losses to my own "stupidity" or my play behavior. In this case, for the first time, I could not dismiss it so easily and it made me very uneasy. The feeling of being cheated. I think the story about the colleague from Malta may have been taken the wrong way. I intuitively asked him if he could obtain information in any form. He himself has nothing to do with casinos. He works in another area and has taken a new job there. And as I said already in 2019, I had hoped for more from his side allerding it remained what I could only put up as a guess. It is not that he could have forwarded something solid on the spot.

Yes, this side and the operators operate that as Business and that is completely legitimate. Only and one must emphasize that. They do with the money quite certainly NOT only their livelihood. They earn themselves a golden nose would I mean. Meinet because of that is also legitimate. But just to have that in mind. I count more than 50 casinos here on the site, we assume an average of 100 € per player (which is very very very low) which are deposited monthly. In some casinos they sent less players and in others less. But here we can assume a total of 1000 players without problems with the size of the community.

we scale that down and say these 1000 players are distributed to the 50 casinos so that would give a total generated amount of 100,000 €! On the casino sites I can see models which are set between 40%-50% profit sharing.

My best we are talking about at least 40.000€ - 50.000€ income and that monthly! This is not a living this is Big Business. And if then continue such brands are in the top list, this should be questioned not only by me but also the community

Even with one-time compensation models that I have also looked at the casino sites, is here neat money raked

And I am very sure that my model calculation is still quite far down

Ergo I would accordingly claim that my criticism is not too harsh! The effort of the GJ team would have to be at the exorbitant highest level and be maintained

I will initially remain until the weekend is over and one of the team comments on it!

I hope you understand the aspect

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30th Jan. 2021, at 09:51 pm CET#53
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YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 8:53 PM

Thank you for your contribution and your constructive criticism. Yes, it may well be that I've overshot the mark emotionally at one point or another. Yes, I do not take everything from the video at face value, and yes the black sheep in the business are familiar to me somewhere


With the "the night can not sleep" it was now times in such a way that I normally attribute losses to my own "stupidity" or my play behavior. In this case, for the first time, I could not dismiss it so easily and it made me very uneasy. The feeling of being cheated. I think the story about the colleague from Malta may have been taken the wrong way. I intuitively asked him if he could obtain information in any form. He himself has nothing to do with casinos. He works in another area and has taken a new job there. And as I said already in 2019, I had hoped for more from his side allerding it remained what I could only put up as a guess. It is not that he could have forwarded something solid on the spot.

Yes, this side and the operators operate that as Business and that is completely legitimate. Only and one must emphasize that. They do with the money quite certainly NOT only their livelihood. They earn themselves a golden nose would I mean. Meinet because of that is also legitimate. But just to have that in mind. I count more than 50 casinos here on the site, we assume an average of 100 € per player (which is very very very low) which are deposited monthly. In some casinos they sent less players and in others less. But here we can assume a total of 1000 players without problems with the size of the community.

we scale that down and say these 1000 players are distributed to the 50 casinos so that would give a total generated amount of 100,000 €! On the casino sites I can see models which are set between 40%-50% profit sharing.

My best we are talking about at least 40.000€ - 50.000€ income and that monthly! This is not a living this is Big Business. And if then continue such brands are in the top list, this should be questioned not only by me but also the community

Even with one-time compensation models that I have also looked at the casino sites, is here neat money raked

And I am very sure that my model calculation is still quite far down

Ergo I would accordingly claim that my criticism is not too harsh! The effort of the GJ team would have to be at the exorbitant highest level and be maintained

I will initially remain until the weekend is over and one of the team comments on it!

I hope you understand the aspect

At the latest now the penny should have fallen even with the last. What GJ earns here with MARKETING goes to you probably a shit! Or can you therefore not sleep at night because you earn less? Your thread is pure resentment, envy and also you are upset because you lost. A pure hate mail!

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30th Jan. 2021, at 10:04 pm CET#54
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YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 8:53 PM

Thank you for your contribution and your constructive criticism. Yes, it may well be that I've overshot the mark emotionally at one point or another. Yes, I do not take everything from the video at face value, and yes the black sheep in the business are familiar to me somewhere


With the "the night can not sleep" it was now times in such a way that I normally attribute losses to my own "stupidity" or my play behavior. In this case, for the first time, I could not dismiss it so easily and it made me very uneasy. The feeling of being cheated. I think the story about the colleague from Malta may have been taken the wrong way. I intuitively asked him if he could obtain information in any form. He himself has nothing to do with casinos. He works in another area and has taken a new job there. And as I said already in 2019, I had hoped for more from his side allerding it remained what I could only put up as a guess. It is not that he could have forwarded something solid on the spot.

Yes, this side and the operators operate that as Business and that is completely legitimate. Only and one must emphasize that. They do with the money quite certainly NOT only their livelihood. They earn themselves a golden nose would I mean. Meinet because of that is also legitimate. But just to have that in mind. I count more than 50 casinos here on the site, we assume an average of 100 € per player (which is very very very low) which are deposited monthly. In some casinos they sent less players and in others less. But here we can assume a total of 1000 players without problems with the size of the community.

we scale that down and say these 1000 players are distributed to the 50 casinos so that would give a total generated amount of 100,000 €! On the casino sites I can see models which are set between 40%-50% profit sharing.

My best we are talking about at least 40.000€ - 50.000€ income and that monthly! This is not a living this is Big Business. And if then continue such brands are in the top list, this should be questioned not only by me but also the community

Even with one-time compensation models that I have also looked at the casino sites, is here neat money raked

And I am very sure that my model calculation is still quite far down

Ergo I would accordingly claim that my criticism is not too harsh! The effort of the GJ team would have to be at the exorbitant highest level and be maintained

I will initially remain until the weekend is over and one of the team comments on it!

I hope you understand the aspect

The way you write, you seem strangely familiar with me, of course I can also be wrong, but that's my female intuition.


Your milkmaid calculation you can put ad acta, I link you times the appropriate contribution here from the forum, which has surely escaped you, although you know this page for years, as you write yourself.

https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sonstiges/smalltalk/was-kostet-oder-bringt-das-forum-6145/#p6186

Flat rate is the magic word here.

Of course they earn money with it and if they would earn millions in month with it, yes, then they are also begrudged that.
That this page must be profitable and is also should be clear to everyone.

The lotteries that take place are a win win situation for both sides, it provides more traffic, better ranking, better affilate, that should also be clear to most, if not this is also communicated just as openly by the operators, the advantage for you is that you can win what without paying in. Another advantage for you, given the reach and size of Gamblejoe, is that their influence with the casinos is constantly growing, when it comes to disputes and you need their help.
Things can be accelerated here and there are certainly one or two users here who have already benefited from this and there have also been payouts that were more accommodating than if you had faced the problem alone.

You yourself write about yourself that you are a smart man, but this also includes a self and independence.
You register in 2018 in the casinos criticized by you, make regular payments, but do not continuously inform yourself about the experiences of other players, otherwise the first entries on Trustpilot should have made you suspicious and you should have immediately stopped playing there, measured against your requirements for yourself.

At both casinos you mentioned, there are a total of 53 in words fifty-three reviews, how are they supposed to be meaningful?
There is an overall cumulative score of 2.2 here.
You think that's bad?
Then take a look at LeoVegas, they have 1557 reviews and an overall score of 1.8 out of a possible 5 stars.
We could ask users here about their experiences with LeoVegas, I'll start by giving them 5 stars because they are a highly reputable casino in my eyes.

We stick to your standard and then have to conclude that the two casinos you criticized are still better than LeoVegas on average.
Betsson also has only a 2.0, we could continue the list at will, you already play at the top casinos, measured by Trustpilot, so you did everything right.
If the really good casinos are rated so poorly, you have to play at the top casinos, always measured by your own chain of reasoning.
You think this story was made up? Unfortunately not, because that's exactly how it happened on Trustpilot.

Finally, I think it is a very dangerous trend to take everything that is presented to you on the Internet at face value and believe it without questioning, especially with the more than dubious sources that you give here to put it mildly.
If it had now come from the Wendler, that would of course be something else, but no matter.

If I still remember the username that I associate with your place and spelling, I'll get back to you.
Greetings from Florida at sunny 25 degrees in Cape Coral.





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Falke
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30th Jan. 2021, at 10:30 pm CET#55
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Calm down people.

Gamblejoe should check this as announced and if there are really solid indications, they will certainly do something.

In the video also not really evidence is delivered.

And that probably behind many casinos dubious backers should also be clear to everyone who is not completely naive.

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30th Jan. 2021, at 10:44 pm CET#56
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robby811 wrote on 30.01.2021 at 20:08
Dear YungKafa12 I don't know any roby811, and I am not in the investigator team but in the supervisory board.Clarify this with Hernn upola when he is on duty again.

I am back on duty, have today night shift.

As both fires are not peanuts, I would be more than satisfied if I get my money back.




The TE has written it himself, he wants to have his money back, nothing else.
Everything else is just gibberish.

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31st Jan. 2021, at 12:00 am CET#57
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YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 8:53 PM

Thank you for your contribution and your constructive criticism. Yes, it may well be that I've overshot the mark emotionally at one point or another. Yes, I do not take everything from the video at face value, and yes the black sheep in the business are familiar to me somewhere


With the "the night can not sleep" it was now times in such a way that I normally attribute losses to my own "stupidity" or my play behavior. In this case, for the first time, I could not dismiss it so easily and it made me very uneasy. The feeling of being cheated. I think the story about the colleague from Malta may have been taken the wrong way. I intuitively asked him if he could obtain information in any form. He himself has nothing to do with casinos. He works in another area and has taken a new job there. And as I said already in 2019, I had hoped for more from his side allerding it remained what I could only put up as a guess. It is not that he could have forwarded something solid on the spot.

Yes, this side and the operators operate that as Business and that is completely legitimate. Only and one must emphasize that. They do with the money quite certainly NOT only their livelihood. They earn themselves a golden nose would I mean. Meinet because of that is also legitimate. But just to have that in mind. I count more than 50 casinos here on the site, we assume an average of 100 € per player (which is very very very low) which are deposited monthly. In some casinos they sent less players and in others less. But here we can assume a total of 1000 players without problems with the size of the community.

we scale that down and say these 1000 players are distributed to the 50 casinos so that would give a total generated amount of 100,000 €! On the casino sites I can see models which are set between 40%-50% profit sharing.

My best we are talking about at least 40.000€ - 50.000€ income and that monthly! This is not a living this is Big Business. And if then continue such brands are in the top list, this should be questioned not only by me but also the community

Even with one-time compensation models that I have also looked at the casino sites, is here neat money raked

And I am very sure that my model calculation is still quite far down

Ergo I would accordingly claim that my criticism is not too harsh! The effort of the GJ team would have to be at the exorbitant highest level and be maintained

I will initially remain until the weekend is over and one of the team comments on it!

I hope you understand the aspect

I must confess honestly, I have never thought about how much the ladies and gentlemen earn here
Why also, it is nevertheless legitimate
The whole thing here is not a voluntary story for gambling addicts, it is business
Let's assume that your figures are realistic - personally I think that you are too high and that you have ignored some costs, but as I said, let's assume that your figures are realistic
Do you know what I would say to the operators of this site? Congratulations!
When I start a business, I want to be as successful as possible and, in the best case, make the most profit possible, month after month
Every now and then I have the feeling that some people don't quite understand where they are moving here - once again, this is not an honorary office, not a counseling center for gambling addicts
It is a free offer for everyone who wants to use this platform to get information or exchange ideas. End
Furthermore, I personally do not care if they earn on my losses (although I suspect that less use the links here to sign up in Casino's than you think - I'm not even sure if I've ever signed up directly through a link here somewhere) in the end I would Deposit the money anyway and if I'm not fetching the luck is just also lose

In addition, you write that the efforts of the GJ team would have to be accordingly (in terms of potential revenue) at an exorbitantly high level
Once again, you are using a completely free "service"
So in the end you are entitled to what? Exactly, nothing

In the end, yes of course you want as a player that you get the best possible information about the respective casino's here
In the end, however, is it not rather your own responsibility whether and where you play?

Nevertheless, in one point I agree with you, I also think that the lists here should be revised and some casinos are not so well rated here
Many casino's have dropped in terms of customer service, the duration of withdrawals, Verification and or simply have changed deposit and withdrawal options

In the end two things remain, your criticism is and remains too harsh and the feeling that you are confusing this free offer you are using with a paid service

Your intention to help the community in which you draw attention to black sheep is absolutely legitimate and should be so of course also a good thing but you overshoot the goal

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Falke
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31st Jan. 2021, at 12:12 am CET#58
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upola wrote on 01/30/2021 at 10:44 pm



The TE has written it himself, he wants his money back, nothing else.
Everything else is just gibberish.

If he is from Austria, he can also get it back without any problems.

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YungKafa12
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31st Jan. 2021, at 01:23 am CET#59
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Please read exactly what I write! And now listen carefully and carefully what I have to say! Because I will answer the last responses in this thread in an entire post

@ Jokerboy Listen carefully! It concerns me very well something if I get me out of solidartät information here and by opening a player account the team behind the side supporte. Ergo with finance! If it does not interest you, then be so! Point colleague! Besides, you know but not what I and how much I earn and haue away in casinos.

@ upola your comments are "Fugasi" nothing meaningful. Fehenstaub. You keep ignoring könnt essential details of my answers. I'm not primarily about getting my money back, the aspect resonates but that's it. It's not my way but I don't respond to your commis anymore. Anyone who actually comments on my content correctly, I also pay attention

@ Dutch78 Mademoiselle, I am really curious to whom I should remind you I put my hand in the fire that I was never active at any time in writing. Therefore I am interested nevertheless very much which Duktus you would like to connect with whom supposedly

So, and to you I give actually my fullest attention. Because you seem to have taken the trouble to read my comments even if it was obviously done half-heartedly. Listen now please exactly or read exactly!

So, suprise suprise also this thread I know that you have listed here, as I said I have often looked in here. So, so "milchmädchenrechnung" then please open your eyes. So as in almost all areas of information provision, they let you know only what you should know or better said, they try. Here now times more concretely. First of all I pick the example which is given by the GJ team. It is said that a player on sunmaker times 50€ eingzhalt and 40,000€ has won and that has led to the fact that his account as a partner would have killed. Therefore, one has agreed on the lump sum in the future! now it's interesting madame

First, I key times the following: Thanks to Corona, I had in the past months far more time available than it was normally the case. During my "research" for "Spinia" etc. I also looked at Casios compensation programs for interest. And just for you, I took the trouble to look at Sunmaker again. On Sunmaker and that is the exception to almost all other brands such as Videoslots, Platinum, Caxino or Wildz, Boom Casino, Twin, etc.to those I have looked at it, there is only there (so on Sunmaker) in the area of compensation the so-called "Negative Carryover". So far I have understood correctly means that concretely: wins a player high amounts (in this case 40,000 €) then these wins are booked for the Vetragspartner as negative amounts on his account and carried over to the next month! In 90% of the other casinos, as I could read, these big wins are set to zero at the beginning of the month.
Why is exactly this example explicitly chosen!? Well, do you get a light!? They only let you know what they want you to know. Even better what generates the best external effect! Your dangerous half-knowledge is clearly not an advantage here

The lump sums for which one is to have decided, do not look certainly happig with such a platform. (I guess times on 300€-400€) per player, since it concerns a unique remuneration if I understood that correctly. And you do not believe that the operators here their old contracts with the revenue shares to quote you "ad acta" have put, this flat rate applies to newly generated players
Be not angry with me, but the numbers in my supposed "milkmaid calculation" are still far from too low! Well, has the bubble "puff" burst? I write this intentionally in this subtle but direct way so that it becomes clear once and for all

To your Trustpilot area in your Kommi, I can and will not go far because you read here apparently only half-heartedly. I have only looked at certain casinos from time to time reviews. And rather delicately recently to "Spinia". The fact is, of course I know that the number of ratings and the generated "grade" are related, if you will, and that is to question the respective brands on Trustpilot. Furthermore, I have Trustpilot only listed, that I was as good as it is only possible on wide-ranging information to make me a substantiated picture. I'm not into it, but for you I like to repeat myself. Read exactly what I write before you answer in your sunny Florida


@Matthlign look if you don't care that "millions" are generated by your money then so be it. To each his own! But certain aspects I must then clarify. So, here nothing is free! (in the grundegenommen)
I'll give you an example: at "free" email providers, you perse pay nothing for the use of your account, fine. But you pay indirectly through your data! Which they then use for marketing purposes and others, or do you think we live in the land of milk and honey where we get everything for free

Exactly this fact, this site uses exactly the same, it provides you "free" bundled and also quite transparent information about Online Casinos to verfügung. (I have long assumed at least) And? does it click? besides, it plasters the page to with casino advertising in the hope that you click on it and sign up. And finally thus bring money into the cash register!

Thus, I have indirectly from my point of view clearly claim to so some! First and foremost, as already mentioned, the greatest possible transaparency, especially because the operators have direct contacts with the casinos. Or why do you think can be helped in case of failed payouts or other problems. Is ne cool marketing story, because a satisfied customer is a paying customer

I do not confuse here at all. I find my claim that I put here in the first place and now x times made clear is that the employees here work more reliably when they advertise with their motto and I have brought them over the years a lot of money in the cash

Likewise, the community must be informed about the points listed above

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31st Jan. 2021, at 01:46 am CET#60
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One more thing, I really hope that my thread is not closed or my account is deleted before I get an answer from the GJ team. And get conveyed what they have done to this group and the associated casinos have brought light into the dark!

If that happens, the community can make their own picture about it.

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