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Online Casinos in general: Gambeljoe supports scammers? Softswiss Casinos in the Toplist! (Page 5)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2021 | Page: 5 of 19 | Answers: 189 | Views: 33,262
Anonym
upola wrote on 01/30/2021 at 2:17 pm
So you're all about getting your money back?
Now we are getting closer to the point.

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upola wrote on 30.01.2021 at 15:06 clock: If you think the casinos cheat, then you no longer play.
Constantly you read here conspiracy theories, without having the slightest proof.
I lose=Casino cheats
Violate the terms and conditions=Casino cheats
Double account=Casino cheats.
Sure there are black sheep among casinos.
I play for 10 years in OC, only once they would not pay me the win, and then the fault was still with me.

That's the way it looks but I don't get excited about such theories anymore - on the contrary, most of the time it's hilarious

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BinGOLDiG
Expert
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 17:40: Hi,
once again all together. So I am currently busy filing a complaint on www.gluecksspielforderung.de for now. Once I have that ready and get feedback I will share that with you guys immediately

Regarding the recent comments. You guys are significantly missing the point here. We often (myself included) drive up with the same in circling topics. Can providers be manipulated? Or as for example Jokerboy mentioned that XY amount X deposits and clears and YY amount XXXXX and fetches nothing

If I tell you but if money is in the game, fraudsters are usually not far. You have to separate the wheat from the chaff. And here I think we all have developed a feeling for which brands are more serious. Believe me, for the repeated times, whether it is Wildz, Platincasino, Videoslots, Casumo or Vodoo Dreams and then StarGames are, I have in Casino X neatly purely banged, but then also at some point thick wins had, these used to further purely in the other casino and then got there into the minus but have also had there again at some point Big Wins. So in each of these casinos e.g. 20K purely hit and also hits of 7K etc. had

However, profit / loss calculation is usually whether High Roller or Low Roller in the long run, the losses are always higher than the wins you bring in. Nevertheless, if I tell you but at Spinia as well as Slotwolf is something hugely NOT right!

For me it is interesting if the GJ team as an insider can create transparency here. And put these brands on the Blacklist? I can at no time claim that I get all the sources proven in the approach, where from?

@BingOo666

To Platincasino I can only say, same story other users (so I). Have experienced exactly the same since about the end of November. Since the mails from the respective brands such as Wildz to players went around that they want to adhere to regulatory guidelines goes ominously wise "nothing" (small wins are of course there, but the proportionality hardly fits) more on Platin
Bonus Cash is doing better than Raw, for whatever reason, and it's also questionable why they're simply ignoring the whole regulation thing. Although they actively advertise for German players. Serious all this definitely does not seem!

This is not a complaint that you file! They take your money back without any justification! Just because they can NOCH, since yes until July this year gambling on the Internet is prohibited in Germany!!!!
If you want to complain you have to arrange the competent supervisory authority, the casino!
You should be clear, however, that once you have retrieved your money, you will no longer get a floor under the feet in any online casino! But your name will then be listed everywhere and where you are registered, you will be thrown out! In addition, it is still far from certain whether they will stand up for you, because it should also be worthwhile for the lawyers and applications with millions are of course preferred

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Butterbrezel
Elite
Jokerboy wrote on 01/30/2021 at 18:31
My comparison is not lame at all. It is as you say common knowledge, but still it is bought and millions of sales are generated. Some like cheap meat because they can't afford anything else and are convinced of the quality and others just pay attention to what they buy. It's the same with casino groups, you make your own experiences with them.
With casinos, it is also known that there are groups that simply have a bad reputation
However, your point is not only that you wanted to tell us that you were cheated, but you also wanted to create a mood against this group, which is what the video you added about this is supposed to prove
If it is only about GJ's opinion on the subject, you can also write an email.

In battlerap you would now throw away the mic...Battle won. Super contribution.

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Butterbrezel
Elite
@Yung

For what precise reasons should GJ Blacklist the casinos you mention?
There may well be reasons. But so far that has not been clear from your posts.
Knock yourself out.

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Chrizzi
Experienced
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 17:40: Hi,
once again all together. So I am currently busy filing a complaint on www.gluecksspielforderung.de for now. Once I have that ready and get feedback I will share that with you guys immediately

Regarding the recent comments. You guys are significantly missing the point here. We often (myself included) drive up with the same in circling topics. Can providers be manipulated? Or as for example Jokerboy mentioned that XY amount X deposits and clears and YY amount XXXXX and fetches nothing

If I tell you but if money is in the game, fraudsters are usually not far. You have to separate the wheat from the chaff. And here I think we all have developed a feeling for which brands are more serious. Believe me, for the repeated times, whether it is Wildz, Platincasino, Videoslots, Casumo or Vodoo Dreams and then StarGames are, I have in Casino X neatly purely banged, but then also at some point thick wins had, these used to further purely in the other casino and then got there into the minus but have also had there again at some point Big Wins. So in each of these casinos e.g. 20K purely hit and also hits of 7K etc. had

However, profit / loss calculation is usually whether High Roller or Low Roller in the long run, the losses are always higher than the wins you bring in. Nevertheless, if I tell you but at Spinia as well as Slotwolf is something hugely NOT right!

For me it is interesting if the GJ team as an insider can create transparency here. And put these brands on the Blacklist? I can at no time claim that I get all the sources proven in the approach, where from?

@BingOo666

To Platincasino I can only say, same story other users (so I). Have experienced exactly the same since about the end of November. Since the mails from the respective brands such as Wildz to players went around that they want to adhere to regulatory guidelines goes ominously wise "nothing" (small wins are of course there, but the proportionality hardly fits) more on Platin
Bonus Cash is doing better than Raw, for whatever reason, and it's also questionable why they're simply ignoring the whole regulation thing. Although they actively advertise for German players. Serious all this definitely does not seem!

Look at Schnubbi,

for 3 months, weekly videos of all casinos that use Softswiss are uploaded. So you do not uncover anything, but have stumbled upon it yourself.
Or you like to make advertising for your videos. Also okay

You can not seriously expect that one puts here casinos on the blacklist, because you throw such things without any sources in the room. Then ganrnix is recommended here more...

Have already read from some people here that they had problems after years and on N1 group are not good to speak. Then you form your own opinion and that's it

If the big hit there was missing, it still comes to bring you at least to the rtp in the slots that is given. You just need enough buffer. Maybe 30k is not enough there.

Maybe you pay another 10k and try your luck?





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Kleinkariert
Expert
BingOo666 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 6:49 PM
That's not a complaint you're filing! They get your money back even without any justification! Just because they can NOCH, since yes until juli this year gambling on the Internet is banned in Germany!!!!
If you want to complain you have to arrange the competent supervisory authority, the casino!
You should be clear, however, that as soon as you have retrieved your money, you will get no more ground under the feet in any online casino! But your name will then be listed everywhere and where you are registered, you will be thrown out! In addition, it is still far from certain whether they will stand up for you, because it should also be worthwhile for the lawyers and applications with millions are of course preferred.

What kind of millions? Such fancy clawback sites are in vogue, simply collect 50% of the clawed back money. That is worthwhile already starting from 1000 € for most cases.

You work it all off and you're done. And you are not on a dubious list where you can never play again. But only where the money was retrieved. Leg larger groups will certainly affect many casinos. However, not nearly all.

I'm against Cashback, but such panic false statements can not stand at all. From my family jmd has gone through a cashback and then gambled away everything again. Everything was possible without any problems. He has done well congratulated him that he has brought the money back to the right place.

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YungKafa12
Rookie
BingOo666 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 6:49 PM
That's not a complaint you're filing! They get your money back even without any justification! Just because they can NOCH, since yes until juli this year gambling on the Internet is banned in Germany!!!!
If you want to complain you have to arrange the competent supervisory authority, the casino!
You should be clear, however, that once you have retrieved your money, you will no longer get a floor below the feet in any online casino! But your name will then be listed everywhere and where you are registered, you will be thrown out! In addition, it is still far from certain whether they will stand up for you, because it should also be worthwhile for the lawyers and applications with millions are of course preferred.

I see! Admittedly I would have to ask now which supervisory authority would be that in my case? Can you help me there? or name the contact point? Askgamblers, for example, I have rather refrained from. Or rather MGA?

Since both brands are not peanuts, I would be more than satisfied if I get my money back. I don't care about the rest, let them list me Black. Distance to the Online Casinos in the pandemic without sports and other activities I have so in everyday life make it harder of course. But realistically speaking to take a long break is long overdue with me

On the other hand, now purely hypothetically considered, but just as well my cousin can make an account and "we" gamble with my money. If but times the desire comes up. And on the other hand, I rather poche on real "German licenses" there can be this Malta gedönns but wumpe me. Or? I mean the gambling machines have also been able to circumvent the guidelines in which you can convert the money into points and thus leverage all the requirements. In the long term, this will also happen for German licenses, I think. Only a question of time. Then hopefully Malta is obsolete.

Thanks for your feedback.

@roby881 and upola

Is me 2 nasen! Always these fundamental critics who want to have everything proven. With time, everything comes out as with diesel scandal (VW, Daimler, etc.) then I want to read your chatter. Think about what is massively cheated and you would fall victim to it!

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YungKafa12
Rookie
One more thing that slipped my mind while answering the user comments. I was able to find out that not all games at Spinia Casino are operated under the Maltese license of N1 Interactive Limited. The games of the developer NetEnt are operated via a own license (license number: MGA/CL4/184/2004) means for me if you can run providers on their own licenses and I know this from any other casino, how serious is that?

Source: Terms and Conditions (Spinia.com) dear roby811 and upola

Such aspects and more are what I would like to have illuminated by the GJ team. As I said, I would like to know what the insiders of the site say about the group and the listed brands and whether they want to continue to promote them

Money back etc. I can otherwise also strive for it myself.and if not also ne bitter pill that swallow! Just so that everything is made clear here again

And I am not compulsively accused that I have opened this thread at all
I would like to emphasize again that I have primarily started to question the credibility of this platform (not the community)

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Anonym
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/30/2021 at 19:49
Source: T&C's (spinia.com) dear roby811 and upola

Such aspects and more are what I would like to have illuminated by the GJ team. As I said, I would like to know what the insiders of the site say about the group and the listed brands and whether they want to continue to promote them

Money back etc. I can otherwise also strive for it myself.and if not also ne bitter pill that swallow! Just so that everything is made clear here again

And I am not compulsively accused that I have opened this thread at all
I would like to emphasize again that I have primarily started to question the credibility of this platform (not the community).

Dear YungKafa12 I do not know roby811, and I'm not in the investigative team but in the supervisory board.klärst that with Hernn upola when he is back on duty

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Anonym
The thread creator of course has every right to be critical here and the casino's mentioned are stores that I personally have always avoided - so nothing that blows me away now
Black sheep on the market, nothing new
Whether these should really be listed here, you can argue about it

Also, the approach that possibly the lists should be revised and some casinos should definitely be subjected to a new evaluation, in my opinion, is also out of the question.
There are some casino's that are listed here, which may not have such good ratings for a long time, as XY months / years ago when they were tested by the team for the first time

Up to this point, I think you can follow the creator of this topic and at least partially right

However, the contribution was much too emotional in my opinion

A statement like "...I could sleep the night only badly..." (this is not the exact wording but it is analogous) I personally find rather questionable
As I said, it's nothing really new that there are black sheep on the market and to be taken away so emotionally?
Well, I book it once under "each person is different"

At the same time, the seemingly boiling emotions have led to the criticism of the GJ team, in my opinion, a bit too harsh
Therefore I can understand Matthias, which one noticed, which he was somewhat displeased
This side here is now once also business and who should not be clear that the whole here must be financed somehow and the ladies and gentlemen here want to earn money and also must around their living to make, which should not go over go and perhaps again back to the start and think over what that is here for a side
The team here does a good job overall, offers us a good platform and has already helped many a player to his right

I can't take the video seriously, neither can the "buddy" who lives in Malta and has been gathering information
No evidence, no sources, nothing
Nevertheless, one thing is quite clear, black sheep exist, even more than we as players would like to be but to be aware of this, I do not need a badly made YouTube video or other questionable theories of questionable people on the Internet
By questionable I don't mean the author though, I think his real intention for this post was to help, not to out himself as an aluhut wearer

What remains in the end, who plays in online casino's not only runs the Risk of losing his money due to "no luck", but can also always have bad luck and to dubious providers devices and lose his money so in the end despite the necessary portion of "luck" in advance yet
However, this is old hat and everyone should be aware of it
Everything has an end only the sausage has two, in this sense

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