Royal777 wrote on 12.04.2022 at 14:43: What do you actually want to achieve with this post?
What is a forum for anyway? I just want to share my thoughts and get to know other points of view, which can be very interesting. And the tone here is really pleasant ; )
Wutmaennchen wrote on 04/12/2022 at 19:09: I didn't even read your feedback from back then.
I don't like generalizations, so I don't think "forum for gambling addicts" is ok either. GJ is a cool community.
"Forum for gambling addicts" - Yeah, what else? Who reports their wins in relation to their losses? "Hey! Here is my winning picture - 2600 EUR! Thanks for your good luck, but I've already lost many times that amount..."
If you bet only 200 EUR within a year, I'm happy for you.
My experience within 2 years in altogether approx. 15 different OC's is evenly that one first always becomes "angefixt", and then "hangs in it" (is not in all OC's so - with some one wins probably never something...) - and exactly this system, and/or this proceeding is evenly sometime conspicuous. Just as conspicuous is the effect of the slots on the gambler - addictive behavior is forced, otherwise it would be pretty quickly quite pointless for the providers.
If I were now a real fox, I would (of course only after extensive research) always re-register in different OC's to get my losses back in^^ What would even MUCH work^^
But it's all so noticeable that I (I refer only and exclusively to myself) has become clear that I f**k myself in the long run with the gambling.
And as I've written before, gambling hasn't broken my neck. I'm fine and I could just keep doing it. But that's exactly what I don't want, an addiction only limits me in the long run - I don't need and don't want that anymore.
I will certainly not keep a diary here regarding my abstinence from gambling..
Seaweed wrote on 04/13/2022 at 00:09 PM
"Forum for gambling addicts" - Yeah, what else? Who reports his wins in relation to losses? "Hey! Here is my winning picture - 2600 EUR! Thanks for your good luck, but I've already lost many times that amount..."
We are passionate gamblers who enjoy betting and spinning . Winning is not always the highest priority, but entertainment
Royal777 wrote on 13.04.2022 at 01:00
We are passionate players who enjoy betting and turning . Winning is not always the highest priority, entertainment is
Ah, ok. That is interesting. But is the entertainment value still there after several years and X losses?
So entertainment is the main priority, regardless of losses? Sorry if I ask so stupidly...
Wutmaennchen wrote on 04/12/2022 at 19:09
I also think (without proof) that the slots have an AI and the player is controlled in that respect
It is coincidence, but controlled coincidence. A paradox in itself, but fits just so.
Therefore, I also suspect that the "new" player is hooked with wins.
Personally, I am only registered at 3 OCs. It was however with all 3 in such a way that I won at the beginning,
and then almost only lost. Last year there was a single payout in the OC.
If it were so that new players are always hooked with fat wins, it would be easy to become a multimillionaire. Just always sign up at new casinos, spin to 50€ or even higher, dust off the Big Win and off to the next casino. I do not think that they have money to give away.
If it were so that new players are always hooked with fat wins, it would be easy to become a multimillionaire. Just always sign up at new casinos, spin to 50€ or even higher, dust off the Big Win and off to the next casino. I do not think that they have money to give away.
It's possible that this can even work for a while. But human weakness is certainly calculated in.
And probably the player data (i.e. playing behavior, amount and frequency of deposits, etc.) will be stored decentrally and exchanged among the various OCs if necessary. Then, with the help of a well-developed AI, it could be helped that the player gets or stays hooked again, or his reward system is sufficiently triggered. Then "chance" determines whether and when and in which OC wins are distributed. The hardcore gambler then perhaps uses his entire win again (because he is on a lucky streak) and makes himself even more dependent...
Seaweed wrote on 04/13/2022 at 02:08 PM
But human weakness is certainly factored in.
And probably the player data (i.e. playing behavior, amount and frequency of deposits, etc.) will be stored decentrally and exchanged among the different OC's if necessary. Then, with the help of a well-developed AI, it could be helped that the player gets or stays hooked again, or his reward system is sufficiently triggered. Then "chance" determines whether and when and in which OC wins are distributed. The hardcore gambler might then put his entire win back in (because he is on a winning streak), making himself even more dependent...
Do you have any evidence or proof of this? Was there ever a whistleblower from the casino scene?
If you google the terms online casino and artificial intelligence together, you will only find articles about the fact that the use of AI will be pushed in the future, for example by using chatbots to save personnel costs, or to improve the casino experience for the customer (there was then the stupid example mentioned that if someone likes to play Book of Dead, then other book slots are suggested to him. But you don't need an AI for that, you just need an excel list), or the probl. Playing behavior can be recognized sooner.
I realize that the casinos would not peddle your thesis, but something like that would always come out sooner or later. There will be people who work for an OC, and at some point look for a job in a new area. Then simply sell this "scandal story" to a publisher, and the casino is finished.
I don't understand why people are always spasmodically thinking about such VTs, even though the RTP alone is enough for all customers to lose really fat dough in the long run. If you as a casino boss know that you can earn 5 villas, 1 private yacht and a few Ferraris every year legally, why take the Risk? To get 1 more Ferrari? Yes, man is greedy, but in the vast majority of cases it stops there, where potentially the entire legal money-making comes to a standstill.
Royal777 wrote on 13.04.2022 at 01:00
We are passionate players who enjoy betting and turning . Winning is not always the highest priority, entertainment is
True words@ Royal777
And I work for 5,34€ hourly wage because I enjoy working so much - I don't get there with my money from front to back - but what the heck - it's enough if I'm entertained on my work ... hahahahaha
In addition, I am very far from being greed-driven, I have a very fulfilling life, am totally happy - and am totally glad that Online Casinos allow me such a great and full life.
Seaweed wrote on 04/13/2022 at 01:14 AM
Ah, ok. That's interesting. But is the entertainment value still there after several years and X losses?
Sure is. Meanwhile I have invested several tens of thousands of Euros in Alemannia and still we are not champions, instead we relegate again. Nevertheless, it is still fun for me to support the club. I consider both soccer and gambling to be a hobby
So entertainment is in the foreground, regardless of losses? Sry, if I ask so stupidly...
When gambling, it is important to set a limit for yourself, thereby you definitely take losses into consideration. Just as important is the acceptance that losing is part of gambling.
I also like to play in fun mode to test new slots or because some slots are just fun for me.
True words@ Royal777
And I work for 5,34€ hourly wage because I enjoy working so much - I can't make it with my money from front to back - but what the heck - it's enough if I'm entertained on my work ... hahahahaha
I don't understand why you compare gambling to your work. If you set standards to fulfill your own needs, then you should be able to achieve something. For example, I am unvaccinated, which resulted in various restrictions as well as heavy criticism, which I have to endure and accept
So it behaves also with the money...
Seaweed wrote on 04/13/2022 at 01:14 AM
Ah, ok. That's interesting. But is the entertainment value still there after several years and X losses?
So entertainment is the main focus, regardless of losses? Sorry if I ask so stupidly...
Fun costs halt.... (Of course, there are also free things that are fun)
Most things that give you pleasure in life cost money. One goes skydiving for hundreds of euros, the other enjoys himself regularly in brothels for but hundreds and others gamble just. Losses are part of it, do you want to sit on your money and do nothing with it? No matter what entertainment you spend your money on, it's gone
The last shirt has no pockets, so get out the money and have fun in life
First always BigWins and then...?
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What is a forum for anyway? I just want to share my thoughts and get to know other points of view, which can be very interesting. And the tone here is really pleasant ; )
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"Forum for gambling addicts" - Yeah, what else? Who reports their wins in relation to their losses? "Hey! Here is my winning picture - 2600 EUR! Thanks for your good luck, but I've already lost many times that amount..."
If you bet only 200 EUR within a year, I'm happy for you.
My experience within 2 years in altogether approx. 15 different OC's is evenly that one first always becomes "angefixt", and then "hangs in it" (is not in all OC's so - with some one wins probably never something...) - and exactly this system, and/or this proceeding is evenly sometime conspicuous. Just as conspicuous is the effect of the slots on the gambler - addictive behavior is forced, otherwise it would be pretty quickly quite pointless for the providers.
If I were now a real fox, I would (of course only after extensive research) always re-register in different OC's to get my losses back in^^ What would even MUCH work^^
But it's all so noticeable that I (I refer only and exclusively to myself) has become clear that I f**k myself in the long run with the gambling.
And as I've written before, gambling hasn't broken my neck. I'm fine and I could just keep doing it. But that's exactly what I don't want, an addiction only limits me in the long run - I don't need and don't want that anymore.
I will certainly not keep a diary here regarding my abstinence from gambling..
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Ah, ok. That is interesting. But is the entertainment value still there after several years and X losses?
So entertainment is the main priority, regardless of losses? Sorry if I ask so stupidly...
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If it were so that new players are always hooked with fat wins, it would be easy to become a multimillionaire. Just always sign up at new casinos, spin to 50€ or even higher, dust off the Big Win and off to the next casino. I do not think that they have money to give away.
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It's possible that this can even work for a while. But human weakness is certainly calculated in.
And probably the player data (i.e. playing behavior, amount and frequency of deposits, etc.) will be stored decentrally and exchanged among the various OCs if necessary. Then, with the help of a well-developed AI, it could be helped that the player gets or stays hooked again, or his reward system is sufficiently triggered. Then "chance" determines whether and when and in which OC wins are distributed. The hardcore gambler then perhaps uses his entire win again (because he is on a lucky streak) and makes himself even more dependent...
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Do you have any evidence or proof of this? Was there ever a whistleblower from the casino scene?
If you google the terms online casino and artificial intelligence together, you will only find articles about the fact that the use of AI will be pushed in the future, for example by using chatbots to save personnel costs, or to improve the casino experience for the customer (there was then the stupid example mentioned that if someone likes to play Book of Dead, then other book slots are suggested to him. But you don't need an AI for that, you just need an excel list), or the probl. Playing behavior can be recognized sooner.
I realize that the casinos would not peddle your thesis, but something like that would always come out sooner or later. There will be people who work for an OC, and at some point look for a job in a new area. Then simply sell this "scandal story" to a publisher, and the casino is finished.
I don't understand why people are always spasmodically thinking about such VTs, even though the RTP alone is enough for all customers to lose really fat dough in the long run. If you as a casino boss know that you can earn 5 villas, 1 private yacht and a few Ferraris every year legally, why take the Risk? To get 1 more Ferrari? Yes, man is greedy, but in the vast majority of cases it stops there, where potentially the entire legal money-making comes to a standstill.
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True words@ Royal777
And I work for 5,34€ hourly wage because I enjoy working so much - I don't get there with my money from front to back - but what the heck - it's enough if I'm entertained on my work ... hahahahaha
In addition, I am very far from being greed-driven, I have a very fulfilling life, am totally happy - and am totally glad that Online Casinos allow me such a great and full life.
I swear Altaaa ... everything wah
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Sure is. Meanwhile I have invested several tens of thousands of Euros in Alemannia and still we are not champions, instead we relegate again. Nevertheless, it is still fun for me to support the club. I consider both soccer and gambling to be a hobby
When gambling, it is important to set a limit for yourself, thereby you definitely take losses into consideration. Just as important is the acceptance that losing is part of gambling.
I also like to play in fun mode to test new slots or because some slots are just fun for me.
I don't understand why you compare gambling to your work. If you set standards to fulfill your own needs, then you should be able to achieve something. For example, I am unvaccinated, which resulted in various restrictions as well as heavy criticism, which I have to endure and accept
So it behaves also with the money...
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Fun costs halt.... (Of course, there are also free things that are fun)
Most things that give you pleasure in life cost money. One goes skydiving for hundreds of euros, the other enjoys himself regularly in brothels for but hundreds and others gamble just. Losses are part of it, do you want to sit on your money and do nothing with it? No matter what entertainment you spend your money on, it's gone
The last shirt has no pockets, so get out the money and have fun in life
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