Cona87 wrote on 31/03/2022 at 07:49
With model railroads you have but a countervalue
Yes of course that's true but wanted to go less to the value but more to the fact that there are different people and everyone must know for themselves best what makes him fun and for what he wants to spend his money now
Gambling is of course still not recommended and a money destruction
You just can not force anything. I've had enough examples where I registered and won a lot right away. After that you are of course hooked. But the more you win at the beginning, the more you lose afterwards
Of course, everyone can do what he wants with his money. But it doesn't matter if you earn 50K a month or 2K - where is the difference to win 100K by chance with 100 EUR per spin or 2K with 0.20 EUR per spin? The gambling addict will always be happy about a win and hide the losses. At the end of a gambler's career, however, the losses will probably always be higher..
If someone burns his entire fortune within a very short time, or loses his apartment/house, car, etc., that is also a "free" decision - there are enough reports of people affected, quite extreme. But isn't it similarly extreme to regularly Risk money for nothing? Even if it is "only" 500, or 1000 EUR per month? Over years?
If you have the Gambling addiction under control, wonderful. But maybe you are just telling yourself that. If money doesn't play a role at all, that's okay too. There are reports about multimillionaires who ended up on the street because of gambling. If you really don't have anything anymore, you can still shift your addiction and start with crack.
I'm glad I haven't been addicted for long and am now pulling the ripcord. My human weakness - gambling addiction - is disgusting and p**ses me off. Fortunately, the puke stimulus is pronounced enough to quit for good now. I am only judging myself with this and I am grateful for it. Everyone has to know for themselves, or figure out, what is good for them.
Thanks for the well-written insights into your gambling career. Too bad that there was relatively little response. Good luck to you with the planned implementation and hopefully with the last Fuffi again what thick came out - that makes the farewell certainly easier
If anyone is interested - the 50 EUR that I finally paid in are gambled away..
Just now I completely blew my last Deposit, after just under an hour. The slots were just eating. Somehow I thought that maybe something would "come back" again - rarely stupid! Stupid gambler thinking!
Today at noon there were free spins for "Motörhead" at Woopwin, 66 spins - this turned into about 18 EUR. Within 2 hours I came to over 40 EUR. Wow! Played several slots, 40 EUR gone. So I wasted 2 hours of my life time on bullshit. I really realized that again today.
On Monday I get Cashback, also at Woopwin. When the cashback is gambled away, it's finally over with gambling. If I can cash out then, I don't care. The main thing is to end the addiction.
It's always the same principle - you pay in and hope to win. But if you lose everything, you hope to win again the next time. And so on, and so on...
If I were the operator of an OC I would be happy about such bozos as I was until just now. A new bling for the wife, a new Ferrari... For me the topic is through. From now on, I will deal with other, more beautiful things.
If it were that easy to quit, most casinos (online) or halls (offline) wouldn't exist in the first place.
And whether one should call oneself a "moron" because of the upper circumstance?
No I would say rather not,
However, you can still keep the option "douchebag" open - and probably if
you know that playing is not good for you and you continue playing anyway!
Predominantly, the reason for falling into an addiction is to look for personal deficits
And if possible, you should seek professional advice or help in this regard
What is, however, only a recommendation on my part, because in your contributions already clearly recognizable (at least for me), that you are in the gambling spiral and mandatory action is needed
I will get Cashback on Monday, also at Woopwin. When the cashback is gambled away, it's finally over with gambling. Whether I can cash out then, I already do not care. The main thing is that the addiction has an end.
And after the cashback comes a Deposit, but only once. And then the bonus and then cashback again. Either stop completely or not at all.
Cona87 wrote on 03.04.2022 at 11:31 am
And then after the Cashback comes a Deposit after all, but only once. And then still the bonus and then cashback again. Either stop completely or not at all.
Exactly, I find also so:
@TE
Even if you wouldn't then take the money you were given, I wouldn't touch the cashback.
If you already realize that it is bullshit and a waste of time, this step would also be a first respect success.
The fact that you tried it again with 50.00 EUR, although you already found it bullshit before, indicates to me that it is not as easy for you to stop gambling as you might think or state here.
Of course, since I don't know you, I could be wrong about that. Good luck with the plan to stop gambling, saves 99% money
Yes, it's true, it's not easy. Since I'm in a forum for "gambling addicts" - sorry, but I don't have a better term right now - I'd like to point out that you shouldn't judge others by yourself and that every addict is probably a bit different. Fortunately, I was able to stop gambling for several months (without any problems).
The term "moron" is perhaps not so wrong, if you consider that the operators make a pile of ashes with the gambling addicts. However, I only meant myself - I don't want to offend anyone. Everyone should know for himself what he can do and what he can be responsible for. For my part, I have just realized that it is not good for me.
And yes, I will definitely stop gambling. Nix with bonus after Cashback and Deposit again etc.. Please do not conclude from yourself to others. I am here just like you, anonymous on the road and just want to share my thoughts.
And I know that Gambling addiction is not to be underestimated. All the more motivated I am. After all that I have "experienced" in the last two years in various OC's, it is simply enough for me. Some people have had enough already, or they don't even start. The other still talks his addiction after 10 years beautifully.
How many BigWins do you need to justify your gambling addiction? I'm not kidding myself and I know only too well that the losses will always be higher than the wins. Put that way, gambling isn't fun either. It's no fun to know (!) that you're the "sucker" or loser in the end. The allure of knowing you could win... Yes, therein lies the problem. You don't have that problem, and you can control your addiction? Congratulations!
Gambling addiction took away a part of my quality of life and I'm getting it back. Wish everyone who reads this nothing but the best ; )
Here is another "nice" example: If we now assume (purely fictitiously) that the average addict pays in approx. 200 EUR per month and wins a total of 1000 EUR in the long run (for example within 6 months) - then he has lost (oh, miracle) 200 EUR.
Let's say that this example refers to some (in the German-speaking area) extremely popular casino and let's assume a number of 20,000 players - then these are in total stakes of 24,000,000 EUR (24 million EUR) - let's further assume that each player wins 1000 EUR over this period (6 months), the online casino is left with an amount or win of 4,000,000 EUR (4 million EUR)
However, the amounts are just a thought experiment and probably vary extremely. One player deposits 100 EUR a month, the other 5000 EUR. And everyone hopes for the BigWin (or is addicted to gambling), otherwise he would not gamble.
Hm, funny. I have the suspicion that it is extremely lucrative to operate an online casino, to advertise for it on TV (alternatively GambleJoe or Askgamblers) and to attract as many players as possible. Almost a goldmine..
And the best thing is that everyone does it voluntarily. Absolutely no compulsion. Only the free will counts ; )
The individual player is perhaps by a (relatively) fat win (shortly after registration and after the first, second or third deposit) only times nicely angefixt... The whole Bonuses and other reward programs also serve only the addiction maintenance or the cash flow of the providers. Everyone knows that after a certain period of time, if he is honest with himself.
In retrospect, I wish I had stopped gambling immediately after my first BigWin (over 2000 EUR at RazorShark). Easier said than done... But better late than never..
I do not fool myself anymore and look at this "gambler world" only absolutely sober..
First always BigWins and then...?
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Yes of course that's true but wanted to go less to the value but more to the fact that there are different people and everyone must know for themselves best what makes him fun and for what he wants to spend his money now
Gambling is of course still not recommended and a money destruction
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If someone burns his entire fortune within a very short time, or loses his apartment/house, car, etc., that is also a "free" decision - there are enough reports of people affected, quite extreme. But isn't it similarly extreme to regularly Risk money for nothing? Even if it is "only" 500, or 1000 EUR per month? Over years?
If you have the Gambling addiction under control, wonderful. But maybe you are just telling yourself that. If money doesn't play a role at all, that's okay too. There are reports about multimillionaires who ended up on the street because of gambling. If you really don't have anything anymore, you can still shift your addiction and start with crack.
I'm glad I haven't been addicted for long and am now pulling the ripcord. My human weakness - gambling addiction - is disgusting and p**ses me off. Fortunately, the puke stimulus is pronounced enough to quit for good now. I am only judging myself with this and I am grateful for it. Everyone has to know for themselves, or figure out, what is good for them.
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Just now I completely blew my last Deposit, after just under an hour. The slots were just eating. Somehow I thought that maybe something would "come back" again - rarely stupid! Stupid gambler thinking!
Today at noon there were free spins for "Motörhead" at Woopwin, 66 spins - this turned into about 18 EUR. Within 2 hours I came to over 40 EUR. Wow! Played several slots, 40 EUR gone. So I wasted 2 hours of my life time on bullshit. I really realized that again today.
On Monday I get Cashback, also at Woopwin. When the cashback is gambled away, it's finally over with gambling. If I can cash out then, I don't care. The main thing is to end the addiction.
It's always the same principle - you pay in and hope to win. But if you lose everything, you hope to win again the next time. And so on, and so on...
If I were the operator of an OC I would be happy about such bozos as I was until just now. A new bling for the wife, a new Ferrari... For me the topic is through. From now on, I will deal with other, more beautiful things.
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And whether one should call oneself a "moron" because of the upper circumstance?
No I would say rather not,
However, you can still keep the option "douchebag" open - and probably if
you know that playing is not good for you and you continue playing anyway!
Predominantly, the reason for falling into an addiction is to look for personal deficits
And if possible, you should seek professional advice or help in this regard
What is, however, only a recommendation on my part, because in your contributions already clearly recognizable (at least for me), that you are in the gambling spiral and mandatory action is needed
I wish you much success!
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And after the cashback comes a Deposit, but only once. And then the bonus and then cashback again. Either stop completely or not at all.
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Exactly, I find also so:
@TE
Even if you wouldn't then take the money you were given, I wouldn't touch the cashback.
If you already realize that it is bullshit and a waste of time, this step would also be a first respect success.
The fact that you tried it again with 50.00 EUR, although you already found it bullshit before, indicates to me that it is not as easy for you to stop gambling as you might think or state here.
Of course, since I don't know you, I could be wrong about that. Good luck with the plan to stop gambling, saves 99% money
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The term "moron" is perhaps not so wrong, if you consider that the operators make a pile of ashes with the gambling addicts. However, I only meant myself - I don't want to offend anyone. Everyone should know for himself what he can do and what he can be responsible for. For my part, I have just realized that it is not good for me.
And yes, I will definitely stop gambling. Nix with bonus after Cashback and Deposit again etc.. Please do not conclude from yourself to others. I am here just like you, anonymous on the road and just want to share my thoughts.
And I know that Gambling addiction is not to be underestimated. All the more motivated I am. After all that I have "experienced" in the last two years in various OC's, it is simply enough for me. Some people have had enough already, or they don't even start. The other still talks his addiction after 10 years beautifully.
How many BigWins do you need to justify your gambling addiction? I'm not kidding myself and I know only too well that the losses will always be higher than the wins. Put that way, gambling isn't fun either. It's no fun to know (!) that you're the "sucker" or loser in the end. The allure of knowing you could win... Yes, therein lies the problem. You don't have that problem, and you can control your addiction? Congratulations!
Gambling addiction took away a part of my quality of life and I'm getting it back. Wish everyone who reads this nothing but the best ; )
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Let's say that this example refers to some (in the German-speaking area) extremely popular casino and let's assume a number of 20,000 players - then these are in total stakes of 24,000,000 EUR (24 million EUR) - let's further assume that each player wins 1000 EUR over this period (6 months), the online casino is left with an amount or win of 4,000,000 EUR (4 million EUR)
However, the amounts are just a thought experiment and probably vary extremely. One player deposits 100 EUR a month, the other 5000 EUR. And everyone hopes for the BigWin (or is addicted to gambling), otherwise he would not gamble.
Hm, funny. I have the suspicion that it is extremely lucrative to operate an online casino, to advertise for it on TV (alternatively GambleJoe or Askgamblers) and to attract as many players as possible. Almost a goldmine..
And the best thing is that everyone does it voluntarily. Absolutely no compulsion. Only the free will counts ; )
The individual player is perhaps by a (relatively) fat win (shortly after registration and after the first, second or third deposit) only times nicely angefixt... The whole Bonuses and other reward programs also serve only the addiction maintenance or the cash flow of the providers. Everyone knows that after a certain period of time, if he is honest with himself.
In retrospect, I wish I had stopped gambling immediately after my first BigWin (over 2000 EUR at RazorShark). Easier said than done... But better late than never..
I do not fool myself anymore and look at this "gambler world" only absolutely sober..
Thanks for reading!
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