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Online Casinos in general: Development of the forum (Page 7)

Topic created on 02nd Oct. 2018 | Page: 7 of 8 | Answers: 77 | Views: 16,031
blizzard1986
Experienced
As you can see, this leads to nothing and you may also be quickly misunderstood on such a delicate subject.

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blizzard1986
Experienced
*Upola* The casino no longer exists but Spintactic is classified as a reputable casino and is blacklisted at the same time.

*Ronny1982*I have also noted twice that at Lapalingo the 35 x bonus is not true. It must be converted 35 x bonus + Deposit! Please correct that finally!

*Hightower* Then take a look, you also have Super Gaminator drinne, the casino no longer exists and StarGames offers play only to FUn, real money is no longer there, which should also be taken out

*I* So I have not checked now but the Bonuses here must be correct so far. Had the problem with Platin also registered through you but they knew nothing about such a bonus.
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I'm still in favor of a new moderator to determine because it just degenerates too quickly and Julian can not do everything alone because he is also not so often here. My suggestion in any case times among others Ronny.
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What was mentioned once a month a small update what was planned and discussed here by you without revealing internals
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Notification who has replied to my posts and create entries.
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Personal suggestion if possible: Pin important or very good posts in a thread so that you don't have to search again on page 20 or don't follow certain rules.
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An extra subforum where you can talk about everyday stuff from me also politics if that is absolutely desired. Of course only for registered users.
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Maybe you get it times around the Christmas season or in the spring to meet all times so that you also know times with whom you have it so to do. Think that also contributes to a better climate.
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Maybe you should start a small survey from time to time from the team to certain topics.
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Just a few suggestions that come to mind directly. I'll let you continue the whole thing if you feel like it.

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K****t
If there should be a new moderator, please someone who is politically neutral here.

My suggestion for improvement would be that you make the rating of the casinos a little different.
I have already rated casinos in almost everything very bad, alone the payout as good - and already the casino has a positive general rating.
This bothers me a lot and is also misleading.
Payouts should be a matter of course, that alone does not make a good casino. Especially since it varies from player to player and also the payout can make problems with others again.

For example, with some I could not evaluate the payout at all, because it has never come to the payout. If you never win for years, you can not give a rating in this category.

There are three crucial criteria for casinos:
Fairness, good/honest chances of winning, hassle-free payout.
All three things have to be given for a general rating to be positive. However, if it is criticized that the slots never throw anything after a long, long time, that the support is cheeky, that bonus rules are traps, but one time a small payout worked out, the casino in question should not receive a general quite positive rating.

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Knochen
Elite
Coffee light wrote on 04/10/2018 at 16:18: If there should be a new moderator, please someone who is politically neutral here.



There are three key criteria for casinos:
Fairness, good/honest odds, hassle-free payout.
All three things must be given, so that a general evaluation is positive. However, if it is criticized that the slots never throw anything after a long, long time, that the support is cheeky, that bonus rules are traps, but one time a small payout worked out, the casino in question should not receive a general quite positive rating.

The problem here is that basically all casinos have the same chances of winning at the same slot. Even if you don't believe that, it is at least the official representation and Gamblejoe of course sticks to it. It would be extremely unfair to a casino to judge it badly because user X could not win anything. But another one is great because user Y won a lot. A month later, however, User Y has again squandered all the money in the casino and rates it again as bad, because you can not win anything.

Chances of winning are equally bad everywhere, so this is not a criterion that makes a good casino. Especially since the slots run as already mentioned several times and for each player verifiable via servers of the manufacturers and the casinos are only service providers

If it were up to that, I would have to say that sunmaker is a miserable casino, since I have never won there. Vera&John, on the other hand, is an excellent casino, as I have only ever won there! But now there will be other users who have had exactly the opposite experience. That's like saying that Spielbank Baden Baden is bad because you only lost at Roulette, but Spielbank Berlin, with the same roulette wheel, is good because you could win there. This is subjective and has nothing to do with the quality of a casino

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Julian
Elite
"I have also twice noted that at Lapalingo the 35 x bonus is not true. It must be converted 35 x bonus + Deposit! Please correct that finally!"

I just checked and this is already shown on our subpage as described, but I also don't know how current this complaint is:
https://www.gamblejoe.com/online-casinos/lapalingo/bonus/


" An extra subforum where you can talk about everyday stuff from me also politics if that is absolutely desired. Of course only for registered users. "

It was already indicated by each Gamblejoe member that we do not tolerate such things, since it only provides for riots among themselves and thus (as one notices meanwhile) also on other topics jumps over and provides only for unrest since many users do not create it to distinguish certain political opinions from other topics and reduce them finally only on it. - There are, as I said, many other forums on the Internet where you have the opportunity to talk about political issues, but here such a thing is not desired.

"Important or very good contributions in a Thread to pin that one does not have to look on page 20 again or certain rules does not keep."

Yes, this is really a big problem at the moment because quite a lot of off-topic topics of conversation are built up (e.g. politics / conspiracy theories) and that just doesn't find an end most of the time and even if we forbid it it just leads to the discussion being continued in other threads. We can discuss the proposal in the next team meeting.

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Emx81
Top Member
Bone wrote on 04/10/2018 at 16:25
The problem here is that basically all casinos have the same odds on the same slot. Even if you don't believe that, it's at least the official representation and Gamblejoe sticks to that of course. It would be extremely unfair to a casino to judge it badly because user X could not win anything. But another one is great because user Y won a lot. A month later, however, User Y has again squandered all the money in the casino and rates it again as bad, because you can not win anything.

Chances of winning are equally bad everywhere, so this is not a criterion that makes a good casino. Especially since the slots run as already mentioned several times and for each player verifiable via servers of the manufacturers and the casinos are only service providers

If it were up to that, I would have to say that sunmaker is a miserable casino, since I have never won there. Vera&John, on the other hand, is an excellent casino, as I have only ever won there! But now there will be other users who have had exactly the opposite experience. That's like saying that Spielbank Baden Baden is bad because you only lost at Roulette, but Spielbank Berlin, with the same roulette wheel, is good because you could win there. This is subjective and has nothing to do with the quality of a casino.

Correct.
As mentioned above a kind of statistics / ranking for members who are already a few days active here to avoid manipulation. Since you could see zb by a ranking where it just runs, possibly top 10 slots insert, this ranking varies of course depending on the rating.

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Knochen
Elite
Just because one person is doing well at Casino X does not mean that the other person is doing the same. For him it runs perhaps in the casino Y well. The point here is not to win as much money as possible but to offer an overview of reputable casinos. I would be happy, by the way, if more new casinos would be listed. Meanwhile, there are some casinos in which I play, which do not appear here. But the GJ team is probably already on it and will continue to expand. It would also be interesting to list UK casinos and not only Mga casinos and to set up a corresponding filter option depending on the license.

What I noticed the other day is that the information about some games is not quite correct.

For example Aloha says minimum win 00,06€. The minimum win is 00,05€ and furthermore it is not possible under any circumstances to win 6 cents on this slot, no matter what the stake. This may be a small thing that no one is interested in and it is certainly a lot of effort to enter all of these games, so such a mistake can happen.

Then, however, the casinos should also be updated from time to time using the filter options. For example, the first Deposit bonus for Casino Heroes is not 50% but 200% + free spins. Also, the payment methods such as Paysafecard are not correct at some casinos or no longer. So far, I have actually always tried when I was looking for a new casino to do so via the GJ filter function, but has never really worked as I imagined.


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Julian
Elite
Bone wrote on 04/10/2018 at 17:14

What I noticed the other day is that the details for some games are not quite right.

For example, on Aloha it says minimum win 00,06€. The minimum win is 00,05€ and furthermore it is not possible under any circumstances to win 6 cents on this slot, no matter what the stake. This may be a small thing that no one is interested in and it is certainly a lot of effort to enter all of these games, so such a mistake can happen.

Yes, it is possible that there are still some games in the system whose win factors were entered incorrectly.
I have been taking care of the games for more than a year now and have been adding them to the system, but there were games listed here on Gamblejoe before my time, which makes it difficult for me to have a proper overview of them. I try to look in from time to time and adjust the Win factor if necessary. Hints like yours help me enormously and if you notice any other mistakes in the future, you can leave me a message via Communicator and I will correct it.

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K****t
Bone wrote on 04/10/2018 at 16:25
The problem here is that basically all casinos have the same odds on the same slot. Even if you don't believe that, it's at least the official representation and Gamblejoe sticks to that of course. It would be extremely unfair to a casino to judge it badly because user X could not win anything. But another one is great because user Y won a lot. A month later, however, User Y has again squandered all the money in the casino and rates it again as bad, because you can not win anything.

Chances of winning are equally bad everywhere, so this is not a criterion that makes a good casino. Especially since the slots run as already mentioned several times and for each player verifiable via servers of the manufacturers and the casinos are only service providers

If it were up to that, I would have to say that sunmaker is a miserable casino, since I have never won there. Vera&John, on the other hand, is an excellent casino, as I have only ever won there! But now there will be other users who have had exactly the opposite experience. That's like saying that Spielbank Baden Baden is bad because you only lost at Roulette, but Spielbank Berlin, with the same roulette wheel, is good because you could win there. This is subjective and has nothing to do with the quality of a casino.

You represent again something as fact, which you cannot know.
But that was not the point, you misunderstood me.

I can not rate a casino where I have never paid out, that is: I can not give the stars for "payout".
I can not rate a casino as positive in general, if a payout has worked once, but the rest is not true.
And yet, even if this is not the topic at all: If you never win more than your payout in three years, something is wrong, no matter who gives what as an official explanation.

The following asterisks are to be awarded:

Fun factor

Software/games offered

Bonus and offers

Support

First payout

Follow-up payment

Fun factor drops way down if you don't win anything. For this then already times half to one star

Software/game offer is good, so three to 5 stars
BUT: Game offer great, software crashes all the time. So what do you give for a rating?

Bonus and offers are numerous.
BUT: Many bonus traps or impossible turnover requirements. How to rate?

Support is good or bad, there can be an accurate evaluation, no thing.

First payout worked, but the rest is lousy (the other criteria). 4 to 5 stars, bang, good general rating.
Initial payout never happened, but the rest is right. Again, an inconsistent general rating.

Follow-up payment never took place. Initial payment did. Everything else is bad or most of it is bad. Nevertheless, quite good general rating only by the initial payment.

This is simply not an objective or coherent rating.

For example, I would definitely separate software from games or put only games.
And also create subcategories. For example, first payout yes, problems yes or no?
Bonus offers generous yes, easy to implement and/or fair yes or no?

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Knochen
Elite
You represent with your "player profiles" just as something as a claim what you can not know at all. Payout is indeed difficult, I have also rated a casino where I only made one payout and thus had to invent the point second payout freely. It should simply be possible to give an incomplete rating

If you haven't made a single payout in 3 years then there is something wrong with your playing style. Everyone has bad luck but everyone has good luck. Maybe you have not been satisfied with wins, gambled it all away again, not played very often? I end up paying out about every third time I play. I can't imagine being that much luckier than you

Fun factor is a difficult point, of course fun factor goes down if you don't win, but as far as we all know the casino can't do anything about that. I have always interpreted it a little differently. I can have fun even if I lose, that's not the point. It's really not fun anymore when the games hang all the time, kick you out, you have to close each game manually before you can start a new one (like in Casino Sieger for example)

The fact is, and you can't disagree with this under any circumstances, that in every casino that has been listed here for some time, someone has already won big. Just as many have lost in each one. Whether you win or not is not a factor that somehow contributes to the quality of a casino. At least not until one of the thousands of people involved in this conspiracy goes public with evidence to support these theories

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