Blubbo33 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 08:24: Hmm, so before there were quite a few threads about how badly all casinos run and pictures of super to mega wins .
Just like now . It has changed in principle nix, apart from the per spin money is retained.
And how many have been upset here that they have gambled away despite 96 rtp thousands without a win
Rtp or not, either you accept that you lose or you should shut down or stop completely
You have it in your own hands.
This whining about the rtp is just terrible, many are now hiding behind it and think the rtp is to blame for the loss
It has always been bad, either you are lucky or not, and accept that it is a very expensive hobby, unless you have yourself under control.
But please stop looking for reasons for your loss and whining. You're just fooling yourselves and closing your eyes to reality.
It is a very expensive hobby, as you said.
But hobby should also be fun, and for money you have paid in, should also be a bit of entertainment. Meanwhile, it is no longer so. You get nothing for your money.
I think it's terrible that people trivialize RTP reduction like this.
You're right, you either accept it or you don't.
But RTP reduction leads to three times higher losses, if not more.
I personally don't play in casinos anymore where new rules apply, I might as well throw my money through windows, maybe I'll make someone happy 😊😊
Klempo77 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 08:41 AM
It is a very expensive hobby, just like you said.
But hobby should be fun, and for money what you paid in, should also be bissen entertainment. Meanwhile, it is no longer so. You get nothing for your money.
I think it's terrible that people trivialize RTP reduction like this.
You're right, you either accept it or you don't.
But RTP reduction leads to three times higher losses, if not more.
I personally don't play in casinos anymore where new rules apply, I might as well throw my money through windows, maybe I'll make someone happy 😊😊.
Where do you live?
And what window I would still need to know 😉
Klempo77 wrote on 28.07.2021 at 08:41
I personally don't play in casinos anymore where new rules apply, I might as well throw my money through windows, maybe I'll make someone happy 😊😊.
Can you climb? Then just throw the money through my window
That might make me happy(er).
Klempo77 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 08:41 AM
It is a very expensive hobby, just like you said.
But hobby should be fun, and for money what you paid in, should also be bissen entertainment. Meanwhile it is no longer so. You get nothing for your money.
I think it's terrible that people trivialize RTP reduction like this.
You're right, you either accept it or you don't.
But RTP reduction leads to three times higher losses, if not more.
I personally don't play in casinos anymore where new rules apply, I might as well throw my money through windows, maybe I'll make someone happy 😊😊.
So I notice nothing of a rtp reduction. It runs as always, mostly nothing and now and then a win
Sure you want entertainment, but there was not in the past, is probably more ne distortion of your perception
And I find it just as terrible when people write before the rtp reduction it ran better
Is nonsense, read the 1000 jammer threads before the reduction, so what has changed?
And on the subject of hobby should be fun, there is no guarantee that it is fun, because then you would have to win, and since you lose significantly more than you win ergo less fun
Look at the winning pictures that are posted here, so there are people who win despite reducing the rtp
Blubbo33 wrote on 28.07.2021 at 11:07:So I notice nothing of a rtp reduction. It runs as always, mostly nothing and now and then a win.
Then you are just blind. So I have not seen it for ages, that here 20 and more winning pictures per day were uploaded. Do not you remember the time not so long ago, where almost daily at least 10 to 20 winning pictures in the forum purely were put?
The Blubbo33 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 11:07 AM
So I don't notice anything about a rtp reduction. It runs as always, mostly nothing and now and then a win
Sure you want entertainment, but there was not in the past, is probably more ne distortion of your perception
And I find it just as terrible when people write before the rtp reduction it ran better
Is nonsense, read the 1000 jammer threads before the reduction, so what has changed?
And on the subject of hobby should be fun, there is no guarantee that it is fun, because then you would have to win, and since you lose significantly more than you win ergo less fun
Look at the winning pictures that are posted here, so there are people who win despite reducing the rtp
Instead of any feelings or not meaningful results of short sessions in which you had sometimes bad luck or luck you should just look at the cold bare numbers
On average you have lost about 400 € with Book of Dead at the 96% RTP setting on 10,000 spins with 1€ bet.
If you now make the same number of spins in a casino that uses an 85% setting you lose about 1,500€ that is 3.75 x as much loss as before !!!!
Exactly the same game with the same stake . Everything that deviates from these results is Variance or volatility.
Of course, the low RTP does not mean that you can not win more . It means that the phases of winning are lower and less frequent and the phases of losing are higher and more frequent.
The longer you play with this hardcore low RTP the more you will see it in your wallet.
Krabbenburger wrote on 28.07.2021 at 16:17
Instead of any feelings or not meaningful results of short sessions in which one had times bad luck or luck one should simply look at the cold bare numbers
On average you have lost about 400 € with Book of Dead at the 96% RTP setting on 10,000 spins with 1€ bet.
If you now make the same number of spins in a casino that uses an 85% setting you lose about 1,500€ that is 3.75 x as much loss as before !!!!
Exactly the same game with the same stake . Everything that deviates from these results is Variance or volatility.
Of course, the low RTP does not mean that you can not win more . It means that the phases of winning are lower and less frequent and the phases of losing are higher and more frequent.
The longer you play with this hardcore low RTP the more you will see it in your wallet.
Thank you for your statement! That is exactly how it looks like.
I can't hear or read the argumentation or downplaying slogans that the massive RTP reduction doesn't matter anymore.
And honestly, I am absolutely willing to pay the tax per spin than to play the RTP reduced slots...
Thorin2017 wrote on 07/28/2021 at 6:56 pm
Thank you for your statement! Because that's exactly how it looks like.
I can't hear or read the argumentation or downplaying slogans that the massive RTP reduction doesn't matter anymore.
And honestly, I am absolutely willing to pay the tax per spin than to play the RTP de-tethered slots....
So I am now also of the opinion to feel the reduction clearly. Was not sure at first if it is a long streak of bad luck, which I also had before now and then quite extreme. But somehow it is different, it feels as if now in the frequency in which previously then rarely x 250 to x 500 wins came now x 100 to x 200 wins. Above that nothing goes more currently with me....
But since most slots do not run at 85%, but at about 90%, you should get away in the calculation example cited about as badly, if you pay the tax. In principle, this is nothing other than a reduction of the RTP
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It is a very expensive hobby, as you said.
But hobby should also be fun, and for money you have paid in, should also be a bit of entertainment. Meanwhile, it is no longer so. You get nothing for your money.
I think it's terrible that people trivialize RTP reduction like this.
You're right, you either accept it or you don't.
But RTP reduction leads to three times higher losses, if not more.
I personally don't play in casinos anymore where new rules apply, I might as well throw my money through windows, maybe I'll make someone happy 😊😊
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So I notice nothing of a rtp reduction. It runs as always, mostly nothing and now and then a win
Sure you want entertainment, but there was not in the past, is probably more ne distortion of your perception
And I find it just as terrible when people write before the rtp reduction it ran better
Is nonsense, read the 1000 jammer threads before the reduction, so what has changed?
And on the subject of hobby should be fun, there is no guarantee that it is fun, because then you would have to win, and since you lose significantly more than you win ergo less fun
Look at the winning pictures that are posted here, so there are people who win despite reducing the rtp
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Then you are just blind. So I have not seen it for ages, that here 20 and more winning pictures per day were uploaded. Do not you remember the time not so long ago, where almost daily at least 10 to 20 winning pictures in the forum purely were put?
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Instead of any feelings or not meaningful results of short sessions in which you had sometimes bad luck or luck you should just look at the cold bare numbers
On average you have lost about 400 € with Book of Dead at the 96% RTP setting on 10,000 spins with 1€ bet.
If you now make the same number of spins in a casino that uses an 85% setting you lose about 1,500€ that is 3.75 x as much loss as before !!!!
Exactly the same game with the same stake . Everything that deviates from these results is Variance or volatility.
Of course, the low RTP does not mean that you can not win more . It means that the phases of winning are lower and less frequent and the phases of losing are higher and more frequent.
The longer you play with this hardcore low RTP the more you will see it in your wallet.
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Thank you for your statement! That is exactly how it looks like.
I can't hear or read the argumentation or downplaying slogans that the massive RTP reduction doesn't matter anymore.
And honestly, I am absolutely willing to pay the tax per spin than to play the RTP reduced slots...
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So I am now also of the opinion to feel the reduction clearly. Was not sure at first if it is a long streak of bad luck, which I also had before now and then quite extreme. But somehow it is different, it feels as if now in the frequency in which previously then rarely x 250 to x 500 wins came now x 100 to x 200 wins. Above that nothing goes more currently with me....
But since most slots do not run at 85%, but at about 90%, you should get away in the calculation example cited about as badly, if you pay the tax. In principle, this is nothing other than a reduction of the RTP
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