NML17x3 wrote on 05.06.2021 at 21:19: I would also be very interested in this
Procedure is still ongoing .
Have taken nen lawyer he cares right now.
So end of January had received file inspection about 300 pages lul
I am accused of money laundering and tax evasion, and concealment of assets something.
Strangely enough, I have received from the police a charge of involvement in illegal gambling but this is not even mentioned in the inspection of files.
The point tax evasion was already denied at the beginning by the responsible prosecutor, because the police assumed a tax evasion, which is too hasty.
By the way, in the file inspection are really all transactions of the three banks. Sparkasse, Volksbank and Commerzbank. What a trouble honestly I do not understand.
About a month ago I called my lawyer and asked what was now. He said the procedure is very likely to be discontinued or possibly fined, which I can not imagine, because in the overview of transactions is to see that I have not now made a lot of plus. Well the transactions with MuchBetter are not listed. That is also indicated but as unknown
My feeling tells me that the procedure will be discontinued. If what arises, I'll get back to you.
What might be interesting is. That everything really the banks have initiated
At this point again. USES E-WALLETS
Since then no more problems.
And Commerzbank GRÖSSTER SCHMUTZ. What I have experienced because of the can tell no one. And I think they were also the ones who initiated everything.
Because the savings bank had given me notice in 2019 (you have to read when that was exactly 😬). They had also filed a complaint (I do not know how the Instiut is called, anyway, they ultimately take care of these complaints)
Also Volkdbank same game. In between, time has passed and nothing came.
But then when Commerzbank gave me notice, they also froze my account and never commented. Now in the file inspection I have seen that they have brought the procedure to roll. And bums came then also the Anzeigr quite promptly.
NML17x3 wrote on 05.06.2021 at 21:19: I would also be very interested in this
I don't want to scare you now. But whenever the money comes into your account withdraw it directly. The savings banks are also very known to immediately freeze the account and first open a procedure. Even if you tell them that it is from gambling. Believe me, it always depends on the bank employee. They don't care at all. They change all the time without you noticing. And if the new one is over-motivated, he simply blocks the account first. It was the same with me. Only after my consultant has changed, came strangely enough, the problems.
They just can't imagine that you can win a lot of money with online gambling.
Do not let yourself like anything. If the account should block take without hesitation a lawyer. So you can get your money very quickly. Without a lawyer, it will drag on like chewing gum.
XxxGamerXxx wrote on 05.06.2021 at 21:49
I don't want to scare you now. But whenever the money comes into your account, withdraw it directly. The savings banks are also very well known for immediately freezing the account and first open a procedure. Even if you tell them that it is from gambling. Believe me, it always depends on the bank employee. They don't care at all. They change all the time without you noticing. And if the new one is over-motivated, he simply blocks the account first. It was the same with me. Only after my consultant has changed, came strangely enough, the problems.
They just can't imagine that you can win a lot of money with online gambling.
Do not let yourself like anything. If the account should block take without hesitation a lawyer. So you can get your money very quickly. Without a lawyer, it will drag on like chewing gum.
The 285§ presupposes the 284§ and there must first be an unauthorized gambling provider
provider must be present. Until 30.6. in any case no OC is illegal. One must wait for the 1.7
or play in such a way that the legality is given. For this case however, I see also the
Discontinuation of the procedure, since this is forced into §, which is inapplicable. M.M.
since this thread already exists, I don't need to start a new one.
I also received a summons in May as a defendant under §285 StGB.
I have always played for a long time. And exactly for that reason ING had terminated me last year to 14.12.22 because of suspicion of money laundering. I was able to clear that up, but the termination remained.
After the summons, I immediately called in a lawyer, who demanded to see the files and has now received them. Tonight is the date for the meeting on the situation.
One thing I can say in advance. I had called the police to push the date back, because I did not know now how long the lawyer needs. It was all pretty tight in terms of time.
The police officer was quite in a chatty mood and had already let it be known that ING had reported me. And the suspicion of money laundering was changed to participation in illegal gambling. And it is about a 5 digit amount. Exact sum is not known to me, because I quickly lost track and actually only made a loss, because I have several loans running...
By the way, since the cancellation I am game free. That has already sat for me very much and I also got scared.
It is also worth mentioning that it is about the period August 2021 to September 2022.
Very clever of Bank that the period before the new gambling state treaty is not mentioned 😉
Well today it's off to the lawyer in any case. If you are interested, I'll be happy to keep you up to date 😊
you are welcome to report what came out of your lawyer's appointment.
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That's pretty awesome! Does the bank also have problems with the German licensed casinos? What me so on my account statements aufstößt is that PayPal always the note: Reporting obligation note Hotline Bundesbank and even if I order something from Lieferando (then there is take away on the account statement) or if I buy 1.99 € on google what for Pokemon...
Will you then also eventually get problems there?
Casinos I have always paid via CashtoCode or mutchbetter but never via bank account except now at Novoline
So my lawyer said he's going to get me out of this so it's going to come down to a dismissal of the case.
But he also says that it has become incredibly difficult with the new gambling state treaty and the lawsuits are also piling up. The reason is that banks and payment service providers are now also obliged to report such transactions. They don't even have to issue a warning.
I am curious to see what the letter from him will look like afterwards, since he will probably have to be a bit inventive. But he sees no problem. Only without a lawyer you can't get out of the number.
Take care of yourselves...
When this is hopefully soon through, I finally have everything behind me 🙏
Susina1508 wrote on 06/14/2023 at 23:18: So my lawyer said he will get me out of this so it will come down to a dismissal of the case.
But he also says that with the new gambling state treaty it has become incredibly difficult and the lawsuits are also piling up. The reason is that banks and payment service providers are now also obliged to report such transactions. They don't even have to issue a warning.
I am curious to see what the letter from him will look like afterwards, since he will probably have to be a bit inventive. But he sees no problem. Only without a lawyer you can't get out of the number.
Take care of yourselves...
Hopefully when this goes through soon I'll finally have it all behind me 🙏
Thanks for keeping us updated, wish you the best of luck that all goes well. Which, by the way, I also strongly assume for now.
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Procedure is still ongoing .
Have taken nen lawyer he cares right now.
So end of January had received file inspection about 300 pages lul
I am accused of money laundering and tax evasion, and concealment of assets something.
Strangely enough, I have received from the police a charge of involvement in illegal gambling but this is not even mentioned in the inspection of files.
The point tax evasion was already denied at the beginning by the responsible prosecutor, because the police assumed a tax evasion, which is too hasty.
By the way, in the file inspection are really all transactions of the three banks. Sparkasse, Volksbank and Commerzbank. What a trouble honestly I do not understand.
About a month ago I called my lawyer and asked what was now. He said the procedure is very likely to be discontinued or possibly fined, which I can not imagine, because in the overview of transactions is to see that I have not now made a lot of plus. Well the transactions with MuchBetter are not listed. That is also indicated but as unknown
My feeling tells me that the procedure will be discontinued. If what arises, I'll get back to you.
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At this point again. USES E-WALLETS
Since then no more problems.
And Commerzbank GRÖSSTER SCHMUTZ. What I have experienced because of the can tell no one. And I think they were also the ones who initiated everything.
Because the savings bank had given me notice in 2019 (you have to read when that was exactly 😬). They had also filed a complaint (I do not know how the Instiut is called, anyway, they ultimately take care of these complaints)
Also Volkdbank same game. In between, time has passed and nothing came.
But then when Commerzbank gave me notice, they also froze my account and never commented. Now in the file inspection I have seen that they have brought the procedure to roll. And bums came then also the Anzeigr quite promptly.
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I don't want to scare you now. But whenever the money comes into your account withdraw it directly. The savings banks are also very known to immediately freeze the account and first open a procedure. Even if you tell them that it is from gambling. Believe me, it always depends on the bank employee. They don't care at all. They change all the time without you noticing. And if the new one is over-motivated, he simply blocks the account first. It was the same with me. Only after my consultant has changed, came strangely enough, the problems.
They just can't imagine that you can win a lot of money with online gambling.
Do not let yourself like anything. If the account should block take without hesitation a lawyer. So you can get your money very quickly. Without a lawyer, it will drag on like chewing gum.
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The constant change of advisor is so annoying
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provider must be present. Until 30.6. in any case no OC is illegal. One must wait for the 1.7
or play in such a way that the legality is given. For this case however, I see also the
Discontinuation of the procedure, since this is forced into §, which is inapplicable. M.M.
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since this thread already exists, I don't need to start a new one.
I also received a summons in May as a defendant under §285 StGB.
I have always played for a long time. And exactly for that reason ING had terminated me last year to 14.12.22 because of suspicion of money laundering. I was able to clear that up, but the termination remained.
After the summons, I immediately called in a lawyer, who demanded to see the files and has now received them. Tonight is the date for the meeting on the situation.
One thing I can say in advance. I had called the police to push the date back, because I did not know now how long the lawyer needs. It was all pretty tight in terms of time.
The police officer was quite in a chatty mood and had already let it be known that ING had reported me. And the suspicion of money laundering was changed to participation in illegal gambling. And it is about a 5 digit amount. Exact sum is not known to me, because I quickly lost track and actually only made a loss, because I have several loans running...
By the way, since the cancellation I am game free. That has already sat for me very much and I also got scared.
It is also worth mentioning that it is about the period August 2021 to September 2022.
Very clever of Bank that the period before the new gambling state treaty is not mentioned 😉
Well today it's off to the lawyer in any case. If you are interested, I'll be happy to keep you up to date 😊
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Will you then also eventually get problems there?
Casinos I have always paid via CashtoCode or mutchbetter but never via bank account except now at Novoline
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But he also says that it has become incredibly difficult with the new gambling state treaty and the lawsuits are also piling up. The reason is that banks and payment service providers are now also obliged to report such transactions. They don't even have to issue a warning.
I am curious to see what the letter from him will look like afterwards, since he will probably have to be a bit inventive. But he sees no problem. Only without a lawyer you can't get out of the number.
Take care of yourselves...
When this is hopefully soon through, I finally have everything behind me 🙏
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Thanks for keeping us updated, wish you the best of luck that all goes well. Which, by the way, I also strongly assume for now.
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