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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)
23rd Jan. 2021, at 03:58 pm CET#11
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XxxGamerXxx wrote on 23.01.2021 at 15:51: Do you think there is still a house search afterwards🤔
Nope, that would come before. You are now warned and could burn all evidence, eat or bury in the garden. What are they supposed to find now? And they won't come to your place just to wipe it down.
And what if he simply said that these wins all came from sports betting? That the wins come from slots, of course, he may not say, because then they pee him safely on the leg. Sports betting, on the other hand, is legal and you always pay the betting taxes on it, which then go to our state
May I ask what you have converted before the termination so monthly how many transactions and amounts? I was terminated last year, but I had 5-10 transactions per day with 50/100 euro steps and also large withdrawals.
What also interests me if I now play in the current casinos with German license Tipico ect is it now legal or is that still pursued?
WithoutWings wrote on 23.01.2021 at 16:38: May one ask what you have converted before the termination so monthly how many bookings and amounts? I was terminated last year, however, I had 5-10 transactions per day with 50/100 euro steps and also large payouts.
What also interested me if I now play in the current casinos with German license Tipico ect is it now legal or is that still pursued?
So my bookings were really heavy at the time, they are still but only via e-wallets.
Last year October was also terminated by Commerzbank and Volksbank, because there were simply far too many bookings.
Commerzbank has also frozen everything at that time and no information given.
So bookings were just at Sparkasse, Volksbank and Commerzbank always between 25 - 100EUR per transaction. But had quite often in the month bookings far over 300 - 400 transactions in small amounts.
Now I am with Targobank and Postbank and I really run everything via e-wallets (muchbetter and skrill). I then always withdraw money with the credit card.
I would also really recommend to everyone, do not make any bookings through your banks !!!! Especially I really feel sorry for the people who are at Commerzbank. If something like this happens have fun old....
Now I always pay in much larger amounts in the casinos (between 1000-2000) steps but just about the e-wallets.
Had a total of sunnyplayer, sunmaker, Cherrycasino and Lapalingo about 320,000 Eur deposits and withdrawals were about 312,000, had in any case a minus of 8000 I can remember.
Falko wrote on 23.01.2021 at 16:32: And what if he would simply say that these wins all came only from sports betting ? That the wins come from slots, of course, he may not say, because then they pee him certainly on the leg. Sports betting, on the other hand, is legal and you always pay the betting taxes on it, which then go to our state.
i mean then I would have to tax something or?
And I had then also the savings bank quite openly said are just online casino (slots) wins.
Postbank is yes quasi Commerzbank me has the Postbank end of last year canceled that was but also an up and down of 20,000 monthly at least everything 50-100 euros bookings. So far, only the regular termination came to see if there is still what follows...
Then you have the bank quasi yes admitted and that has vll led to the advertisement I have said sports betting except an AHA came on it further no announcement
WithoutWings wrote on 23.01.2021 at 17:01: Postbank is yes quasi Commerzbank me has the Postbank end of last year canceled that was but also an up and down of 20,000 monthly at least everything 50-100 euros bookings. So far, only the regular termination came to see if there is still what follows...
I really hope for you that they do not give the display. I know a lot can not happen, but that's a real headache and you have to see how you react, that this is quickly clarified.
Here in the forum a member has also reported about it. And from the file inspection it was clear that the bank will then report you.
It's a real shock that the report comes so late....
You are neither obligated to comment on the accusations, nor to react / respond to this letter at all.
This is to be treated like a summons to the police - no one is obliged to appear there
Only a summons from the public prosecutor's office must be obeyed by law in Germany.
It will not come to a house search, on the one hand this would have taken place as a rule in the apron of the investigations, on the other hand the police would have to receive a judicial search warrant for it and that also the police does not get so simply
In the Basic Law is after paragraph 13 of your home a special protection to speak and I would like to see the judge, for further investigations in your case, a search warrant handed out
Does not mean that there was not something like that but just currently, where for a few months gambling is partly tolerated due to regulation, any argumentation is missing.
However, this is of course only my ignorant opinion
Personally, I would not react to the letter
It will go its usual course - the police will finish their investigation and pass their findings to the prosecutor's office
They will then decide whether it is worth pursuing the case further and pressing charges
Personally, I can not imagine that in the end it comes to a trial
In my opinion, a dismissal due to insignificance makes the most sense
However, I am not an expert, so this is just a description of how I would handle the whole scenario
XxxGamerXxx wrote on 23/01/2021 at 17:00
i mean then i would have to pay some tax or?
In the field of sports betting, you always pay the 5% betting tax at the Provider, which the German government collects. In the forum it has often been written that with such threats the case was settled if you said the money came from sports betting. Slots, on the other hand, are completely different, so you can't declare that as a source of income. So if you fill in the questionnaire, don't mention slots. So to your question, you have already paid taxes on your wins this 5% betting tax, but this applies only to sports betting.
Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)
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Nope, that would come before. You are now warned and could burn all evidence, eat or bury in the garden. What are they supposed to find now? And they won't come to your place just to wipe it down.
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What also interests me if I now play in the current casinos with German license Tipico ect is it now legal or is that still pursued?
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So my bookings were really heavy at the time, they are still but only via e-wallets.
Last year October was also terminated by Commerzbank and Volksbank, because there were simply far too many bookings.
Commerzbank has also frozen everything at that time and no information given.
So bookings were just at Sparkasse, Volksbank and Commerzbank always between 25 - 100EUR per transaction. But had quite often in the month bookings far over 300 - 400 transactions in small amounts.
Now I am with Targobank and Postbank and I really run everything via e-wallets (muchbetter and skrill). I then always withdraw money with the credit card.
I would also really recommend to everyone, do not make any bookings through your banks !!!! Especially I really feel sorry for the people who are at Commerzbank. If something like this happens have fun old....
Now I always pay in much larger amounts in the casinos (between 1000-2000) steps but just about the e-wallets.
Had a total of sunnyplayer, sunmaker, Cherrycasino and Lapalingo about 320,000 Eur deposits and withdrawals were about 312,000, had in any case a minus of 8000 I can remember.
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i mean then I would have to tax something or?
And I had then also the savings bank quite openly said are just online casino (slots) wins.
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I really hope for you that they do not give the display. I know a lot can not happen, but that's a real headache and you have to see how you react, that this is quickly clarified.
Here in the forum a member has also reported about it. And from the file inspection it was clear that the bank will then report you.
It's a real shock that the report comes so late....
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This is to be treated like a summons to the police - no one is obliged to appear there
Only a summons from the public prosecutor's office must be obeyed by law in Germany.
It will not come to a house search, on the one hand this would have taken place as a rule in the apron of the investigations, on the other hand the police would have to receive a judicial search warrant for it and that also the police does not get so simply
In the Basic Law is after paragraph 13 of your home a special protection to speak and I would like to see the judge, for further investigations in your case, a search warrant handed out
Does not mean that there was not something like that but just currently, where for a few months gambling is partly tolerated due to regulation, any argumentation is missing.
However, this is of course only my ignorant opinion
Personally, I would not react to the letter
It will go its usual course - the police will finish their investigation and pass their findings to the prosecutor's office
They will then decide whether it is worth pursuing the case further and pressing charges
Personally, I can not imagine that in the end it comes to a trial
In my opinion, a dismissal due to insignificance makes the most sense
However, I am not an expert, so this is just a description of how I would handle the whole scenario
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Charge of unauthorized gambling ( 285 StGB)
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In the field of sports betting, you always pay the 5% betting tax at the Provider, which the German government collects. In the forum it has often been written that with such threats the case was settled if you said the money came from sports betting. Slots, on the other hand, are completely different, so you can't declare that as a source of income. So if you fill in the questionnaire, don't mention slots. So to your question, you have already paid taxes on your wins this 5% betting tax, but this applies only to sports betting.
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