Of course not, that's why directly lawyer - but a specialist lawyer knows what he's doing. My defense brief was just under 3 pages long and was hardly contestable. It was worth 500 euros! And how can you prove "intent"? Casinos constantly advertise or have advertised for a long time with valid licenses, there have been TV commercials, the sites are all in German, etc. - nobody can see through that, and the public prosecutor's office knows that. Unfortunately, they have to investigate every report. As I was already insolvent, there was nothing more to be gained - it can be different with large wins that are still in the account..
In the end, every public prosecutor's office decides differently. There have already been some curious rulings here too.
I myself hired a lawyer who specializes in criminal law and had never had anything to do with Paragraph 285 before.
I'm curious to see what it will cost me. One inspection of the file and a request to discontinue the proceedings in return for a payment.
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12th Apr. 2024, at 02:37 pm CEST#47
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Solos1995 wrote on 12.04.2024 at 14:00:
In the end, every public prosecutor's office decides differently. There have already been curious judgments here too.
I myself hired a lawyer who specializes in criminal law and had never had anything to do with Paragraph 285 before.
I'm curious to see what it will cost me. One inspection of the file and a request to discontinue the proceedings in return for a payment.
Keep your fingers crossed. It will work out. Curious judgments are probably rather rare.
My lawyer was from a large law firm and specialized in this. He said there have been hundreds of such cases in recent years (not a single criminal case or conviction). That would be quite something if there really is more to it..
actually the laws should be clearly regulated "penalties etc." but someone knows a mega-lawyer who uses the torsion force to calculate the laws
and who also happens to be the brother-in-law of the public prosecutor and whose brother is a constitutional judge, can twist the whole indictment so that it is
is dropped.
hollywood generation
the apprentice unfortunately only knew the janitor of the judge's villa, and had to dock the win + fine
Hello, I've been hit too.
I got a letter from the police today.
Accused of participating in illegal gambling.
Reported by the savings bank in May 2023, of course.
However, I was only sent a questionnaire.
Whether I confessed to the crime and whether I knew it was illegal.
Now I don't know what to do.
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13th Apr. 2024, at 09:41 am CEST#50
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 12.04.2024 at 21:51: Hello, it got me too...
Today the letter came from the Kripo.
Accused of participating in illegal gambling.
Reported by the savings bank in May 2023, of course.
However, I was only sent a questionnaire.
Whether I confessed to the crime and whether I knew it was illegal.
Now I don't know what to do.
Get a lawyer, never fill it out myself. It should always be done by a professional who knows their stuff. It's probably all a sham between lawyers anyway, but the main thing is that it's stopped immediately.
Ladybug1998 wrote on 12.04.2024 at 21:51: Hello, I got it too...
Today the letter came from the Kripo.
Accused of participating in illegal gambling.
Reported by the savings bank in May 2023, of course.
However, I was only sent a questionnaire.
Whether I confessed to the crime and whether I knew it was illegal.
Now I don't know what to do.
You can read through the posts in this thread at your leisure. There's been a lot of talk about it here too: Reporting according to § 285 StGB
Yes, I'll call a lawyer on Monday or look for one first.
I gave up playing last year after the savings bank canceled my contract.
Everything was just so nice and now something like this.
I didn't get a wink of sleep yesterday.
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14th Apr. 2024, at 10:02 am CEST#53
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Ladybug1998 wrote on 13.04.2024 at 23:18: Yes, I'll call a lawyer on Monday or look for one first.
I've given up playing since last year after the savings bank canceled me too.
Everything was just so nice and now something like this.
I didn't get a wink of sleep yesterday.
Write me a private message, I'll be happy to recommend my firm to you if you want. Everything went quickly and without complications.
A lawyer also gets access to the files, after which you know exactly who has reported you and what evidence is available.
Ladybug1998 wrote on 12.04.2024 at 21:51: Hello, it got me too...
Today the letter came from the Kripo.
Accused of participating in illegal gambling.
Reported by the savings bank in May 2023, of course.
However, I was only sent a questionnaire.
Whether I confessed to the crime and whether I knew it was illegal.
Now I don't know what to do.
hi, what I don't understand: what does a savings bank HAVE to gain from such a procedure, do they secretly get commissions (attention: sarcasm!)?
And what about banking secrecy? - Okay, in the case of money laundering it is probably obsolete - but in the case of gambling?
In any case, consult a lawyer before you confess to any "deeds"!
Here, I have picked out something for you, where you can find a specialized lawyer in your area (just enter your zip code or town at the top).
https://www.anwalt.de/rechtsanwalt/gluecksspiel.php
Don't let yourself be put off and maybe you can keep us up to date? LG
hi, what I don't understand: what HAS a savings bank from such a procedure, do they secretly get commissions (attention: sarcasm!)?
And what about banking secrecy? - Okay, in the case of money laundering it is probably obsolete - but in the case of gambling?
In any case, consult a lawyer before you confess to any "deeds"!
Here, I have picked out something for you, where you can find a specialized lawyer in your area (just enter your zip code or town at the top).
https://www.anwalt.de/rechtsanwalt/gluecksspiel.php
Don't let yourself be put off and maybe you can keep us up to date? LG
Well, I think that the new rules mean that banks and savings banks are obliged to report all larger payments from abroad.
Yes, keep you up to date.
I'm really scared and panicked myself 🙃
Well I think that with the new rules the banks and savings banks are obliged to report all major withdrawals from abroad.
Yes, keep you up to date.
I'm really scared and panicked myself 🙃
hi, may I ask what amount is involved?
I've just sent you a personal message - then you can send some too!
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If there were not so many beneficiaries in this matter, there would/could be a crackdown instead of just creating a hypocritical whitelist...
But instead of bringing the actual criminals - namely the casinos - to justice, punishing and/or blocking them, the users would rather be milked... SICK WORLD!!!
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Justice wrote on 14.04.2024 at 21:36: If there weren't so many beneficiaries in this matter, there would/could very well be a crackdown instead of just creating a hypocritical whitelist...
But instead of bringing the actual criminals - namely the casinos - to justice, punishing and/or blocking them, they prefer to milk the users... SICK WORLD!!!
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In the end, every public prosecutor's office decides differently. There have already been some curious rulings here too.
I myself hired a lawyer who specializes in criminal law and had never had anything to do with Paragraph 285 before.
I'm curious to see what it will cost me. One inspection of the file and a request to discontinue the proceedings in return for a payment.
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Keep your fingers crossed. It will work out. Curious judgments are probably rather rare.
My lawyer was from a large law firm and specialized in this. He said there have been hundreds of such cases in recent years (not a single criminal case or conviction). That would be quite something if there really is more to it..
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and who also happens to be the brother-in-law of the public prosecutor and whose brother is a constitutional judge, can twist the whole indictment so that it is
is dropped.
hollywood generation
the apprentice unfortunately only knew the janitor of the judge's villa, and had to dock the win + fine
unfortunately cool
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I got a letter from the police today.
Accused of participating in illegal gambling.
Reported by the savings bank in May 2023, of course.
However, I was only sent a questionnaire.
Whether I confessed to the crime and whether I knew it was illegal.
Now I don't know what to do.
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Get a lawyer, never fill it out myself. It should always be done by a professional who knows their stuff. It's probably all a sham between lawyers anyway, but the main thing is that it's stopped immediately.
Good luck!
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You can read through the posts in this thread at your leisure. There's been a lot of talk about it here too: Reporting according to § 285 StGB
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I gave up playing last year after the savings bank canceled my contract.
Everything was just so nice and now something like this.
I didn't get a wink of sleep yesterday.
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Write me a private message, I'll be happy to recommend my firm to you if you want. Everything went quickly and without complications.
A lawyer also gets access to the files, after which you know exactly who has reported you and what evidence is available.
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Can you write me a message, I'm new and therefore can't send anything.
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Same here 🤷🏼♂️
Google: CLLB law firm..
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hi, what I don't understand: what does a savings bank HAVE to gain from such a procedure, do they secretly get commissions (attention: sarcasm!)?
And what about banking secrecy? - Okay, in the case of money laundering it is probably obsolete - but in the case of gambling?
In any case, consult a lawyer before you confess to any "deeds"!
Here, I have picked out something for you, where you can find a specialized lawyer in your area (just enter your zip code or town at the top).
https://www.anwalt.de/rechtsanwalt/gluecksspiel.php
Don't let yourself be put off and maybe you can keep us up to date? LG
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Well, I think that the new rules mean that banks and savings banks are obliged to report all larger payments from abroad.
Yes, keep you up to date.
I'm really scared and panicked myself 🙃
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hi, may I ask what amount is involved?
I've just sent you a personal message - then you can send some too!
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But instead of bringing the actual criminals - namely the casinos - to justice, punishing and/or blocking them, the users would rather be milked... SICK WORLD!!!
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Nothing to add 🙏🏻
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