Royal777 wrote on 08/16/2022 at 13:44
That's right...
PartyPoker or ElectraWorks Ltd. has now been sentenced more often, but whether there was a refund is Unklar. If BigPlayers like PartyPoker and Pokerstars try to get a German license, then they would have to pay the money as well.
I am still unclear whether to press charges against PartyPoker or not. More than 20.000€ are in the room, before that I would definitely have to pay some costs of around 4.500€.... Critical
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I'm pretty sure that you have a criminal record for "illegal gambling".
In other words, you knew/know exactly, and even more so that you play illegally.
(After all, this has been discussed here often enough).
Knowingly gambling illegally, then trying a chargeback ....this is really not a good idea and will also be judged in court (rightly) as "fraud in the making"
Royal777 wrote on 16.08.2022 at 15:18
I can not afford the 4,500€ yet, although I have been saving heavily for 3 months. Probably could also agree on an installment payment, yet I have doubts.
A professional cover letter has already been written, I would only have to hand it over. Nevertheless, I am convinced that PartyPoker would immediately block my account and is guaranteed not to accommodate me.
Strictly speaking, I am a customer there since I was 18 years old (2005), so the decision is not so easy for me....
I mean if you have made there 20k bad in 17 years
Now calculate the losses of the other casinos together
Maybe that gives you the strength to pull it through
Bwin I was also already from the beginning have deposited there quite a bit
It has also cost me strength to lock me there, I shit on the money
Do not want anything back from the casinos am also in a group for addicted players
The problem is when you are addicted to something, you come out of the bubble hard.
Was also longer than a month no longer in the halls thanks to oases
And online I pay almost no more and so Holl I me my losses again
Normal white I hau much much much more in the machines
I save so automatically that is the best thing I can do.
But my greatest respect to the people who can enjoy gambling in moderation without getting sick of it
So my advice to you is to evaluate yourself and how you want to shape your future
Trying to recover your losses is the right step, there are plenty of Online Casinos out there
You don't have to cry for the bwin group
Peace
Peter8 wrote on 16.08.2022 at 15:37
The problem is when you are addicted to something, it is hard to get out of the bubble.
Totally true, but still doable!
But if you keep playing anyway - even if it's in moderation by your standards, you'll never get away from it
It is usually only a question of time
until you are back on it again...
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/16/2022 at 3:36 pm
I'm pretty sure you have a history of "illegal gambling".
In other words, you knew/know exactly, and even more so that you play illegally.
(After all, this has been discussed here often enough).
Knowingly playing illegally, then trying a chargeback ....this is really not a good idea and will also be judged in court (rightly) as "income fraud"
I continue to hold the opinion that playing from Germany in other EU countries is legal, regardless of the license. After all, I also worked for several years as a freelancer or moderator of a casino stream. This was not a side job, instead this was my main source of income.
Difficult.... Nevertheless, I can understand your aspects of the past months...
I still hold the opinion that playing from Germany in other EU countries is Legal, regardless of the license. After all, I worked as a freelancer or moderator of a casino stream for several years. This was not a side job, instead this was my main source of income.
Difficult.... Nevertheless, I can understand your aspects of the past months...
It is not legal . EU rules do not count here as you think. I have already asked several lawyers, all say the same. You are not punishable if you did not know about the licenses, but it is still forbidden and you should stop or switch to legal gambling sites
Ichbins2018 wrote on 08/16/2022 at 3:41 pm
Totally true, but still doable!
But if you keep playing anyway - even in moderation by your standards, you'll never get away from it
It is usually only a question of time
until you are fully on it again...
That is also perfectly clear to me, soon my inpatient therapy will begin - the group helps me too
To talk about it and not just accept that you are addicted to gambling and continue as if nothing is wrong
Work for play on the machine I'm tired, make me broken so that others can chill on the beach in Malta? No thank you
Just open your mouth, do something about it.
Gambling is just not for me
My experience tells me one thing, that addicts are exploited and you can see that casinos delay payouts
Only to the bottom
That is the last
In the gym the same game, the arcade supervision must actually kick you out if you notice that and ill plays
Like me for example am in my Stamm Spilo and play on 10 machines at the same time on 2 floors
No one can tell me that is normal.
What happened to me a few years ago you really do not want to know
i am much better, and I will not give up and this crappy search I will also leave behind me
Because I just want it, and where there is a will there is also a way
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Royal777 wrote on 08/16/2022 at 3:45 PM
I still hold the opinion that playing from Germany in other EU countries is Legal, regardless of the license. After all, I worked as a freelancer or moderator of a casino stream for several years. This was not a side job, instead this was my main source of income.
Difficult.... Nevertheless, I can understand your aspects of the past months...
Then you should read the new gambling state treaty. It is not legal. Exactly this false statement is what all the Twitch streamers are trying to spread. Sooner or later consequences will also come for players even if of course with the operators is started..
I still hold the opinion that playing from Germany in other EU countries is Legal, regardless of the license. After all, I worked as a freelancer or moderator of a casino stream for several years. This was not a side job, instead this was my main source of income.
Difficult.... Nevertheless, I can understand your aspects of the past months...
A lot of money gambled away, chargeback possible?
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I'm pretty sure that you have a criminal record for "illegal gambling".
In other words, you knew/know exactly, and even more so that you play illegally.
(After all, this has been discussed here often enough).
Knowingly gambling illegally, then trying a chargeback ....this is really not a good idea and will also be judged in court (rightly) as "fraud in the making"
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I mean if you have made there 20k bad in 17 years
Now calculate the losses of the other casinos together
Maybe that gives you the strength to pull it through
Bwin I was also already from the beginning have deposited there quite a bit
It has also cost me strength to lock me there, I shit on the money
Do not want anything back from the casinos am also in a group for addicted players
The problem is when you are addicted to something, you come out of the bubble hard.
Was also longer than a month no longer in the halls thanks to oases
And online I pay almost no more and so Holl I me my losses again
Normal white I hau much much much more in the machines
I save so automatically that is the best thing I can do.
But my greatest respect to the people who can enjoy gambling in moderation without getting sick of it
So my advice to you is to evaluate yourself and how you want to shape your future
Trying to recover your losses is the right step, there are plenty of Online Casinos out there
You don't have to cry for the bwin group
Peace
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Totally true, but still doable!
But if you keep playing anyway - even if it's in moderation by your standards, you'll never get away from it
It is usually only a question of time
until you are back on it again...
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I continue to hold the opinion that playing from Germany in other EU countries is legal, regardless of the license. After all, I also worked for several years as a freelancer or moderator of a casino stream. This was not a side job, instead this was my main source of income.
Difficult.... Nevertheless, I can understand your aspects of the past months...
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the other side is not stupid and will pull out all the stops
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It is not legal . EU rules do not count here as you think. I have already asked several lawyers, all say the same. You are not punishable if you did not know about the licenses, but it is still forbidden and you should stop or switch to legal gambling sites
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That is also perfectly clear to me, soon my inpatient therapy will begin - the group helps me too
To talk about it and not just accept that you are addicted to gambling and continue as if nothing is wrong
Work for play on the machine I'm tired, make me broken so that others can chill on the beach in Malta? No thank you
Just open your mouth, do something about it.
Gambling is just not for me
My experience tells me one thing, that addicts are exploited and you can see that casinos delay payouts
Only to the bottom
That is the last
In the gym the same game, the arcade supervision must actually kick you out if you notice that and ill plays
Like me for example am in my Stamm Spilo and play on 10 machines at the same time on 2 floors
No one can tell me that is normal.
What happened to me a few years ago you really do not want to know
i am much better, and I will not give up and this crappy search I will also leave behind me
Because I just want it, and where there is a will there is also a way
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Then you should read the new gambling state treaty. It is not legal. Exactly this false statement is what all the Twitch streamers are trying to spread. Sooner or later consequences will also come for players even if of course with the operators is started..
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Represent the same opinion
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It does not matter what you think, but what is legal situation....
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