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Deposit and withdrawal methods: Bank forbids gambling!

Topic created on 15th Jan. 2019 | Page: 1 of 8 | Answers: 72 | Views: 46,365
TinaTina
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 07:26 pm CET#1
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Hello fellow players!
I'm new here and signed up to ask the round if anyone has ever experienced this. Sorry for the somewhat detailed text!
I have been playing at various casinos for a few years now. Actually always from the same bank, sometimes with PayPal lately and never anyone has said anything. I have usually always deposited with instant payments.
At some point I had a major win last year of a good €10,000. I used it to close an old loan with an old bank. In conversation with my current bank advisor she asked then so incidentally, where the money comes from and since I am an honest man, I said, from the online casino. Then she asked me if I knew that this was illegal. And I told her that this was not true.

When I then again some time later wanted to increase my Dispo, she told me that we had already talked about the issue and that she can not do that under the circumstances.
I took that as it was, but again contradicted her.
She then emailed me something about illegal gambling and I told her that I forbid her to make such insinuations. At that time I had only the information that it is not illegal with the EU licenses here. And I also told her that the casinos even advertise on German television.

After I have now deposited a few times with my credit card, I got without any warning the cancellation of my credit card, although I could not pay the amount on it at any time, and a letter to me, which again accuses me of illegal gambling and asks me to immediately make no more sales with online casino, because otherwise they would terminate my entire account. By the way, this is a district savings bank.

That has one now from its honesty.
Since I still expect a payout of some 1000 €, and my account is completely covered with it, both the MasterCard and the Dispo, they wanted to cancel the Dispo immediately.
I have now asked them to leave it for now and told them that I am planning to change my account anyway. I want to go to comdirect. But now I have read here that they are also very strict.

That's why my question: what do you use to make deposits? If the banks do not allow it at all. Because I do not want to stop playing completely, but of course do not want to get the next notice from my new account then.
Is it possible to Deposit an amount to PayPal and then make deposits and withdrawals through it?
And where does it come from that some write here that you just have to tell the bank that the money is from the online casino and then it's good. And your bank go along with this?

And is a bank allowed to forbid me to make deposits and withdrawals from the online casino through the account? Canceling the credit card and the overdraft is one thing, but canceling the account just because I make these transactions? Is that even allowed? You have no loss because of it
Questions about questions. And I hope to find helpful answers here.
Thanks a lot to all of you!
:-)
LG Tina

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Ichbins2018
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 07:47 pm CET#2
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"Involvement in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling pursuant to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 GlüStV is prohibited."


And no matter what you are told or suggested...Online gambling is prohibited in Germany.

Your bank is behaving absolutely correctly towards you!

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Anonym

Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 08:01 pm CET#3
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Ichbins2018 wrote on 01/15/2019 at 19:47: "Participation in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling pursuant to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 GlüStV is prohibited."


And no matter what you are told or suggested...Online gambling is prohibited in Germany.

So your bank is behaving absolutely correctly towards you!

Yes, but the bank could also be accused of acting illegally, since it allows payments to Online Casinos

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Ichbins2018
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:04 pm CET#4
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Zockertyp89 wrote on 01/15/2019 at 20:01
That yes, however the bank could also be accused of acting illegally by allowing payments to online casinos.

Correct

And because the banks do not adhere to valid laws, it works so great with the "Chargebacken" ...and that's exactly what the lawyers refer to.

Meanwhile the Chargebacken developed already to a correct Hype...thus no miracle that even the savings banks begin to cross themselves.

Players as well as the banks in a bag...shit on illegal, the damage but greater than the benefit, all of a sudden everyone knows his rights.

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TinaTina
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:14 pm CET#5
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So I read that about this chargeback. But that doesn't apply to me. I know when I play that the money could be gone. I would never get the idea of wanting to book it back.
I would also never endanger my existence with gambling.
And I would like to be allowed to continue playing in the casinos and remain creditworthy. That's why I don't understand it. The bank doesn't blame me for not being able to pay for something, but only for having made these transactions in the first place. And you forbid me to do that
So again the question about which intermediaries do you work with? PayPal?

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Anonym

Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:19 pm CET#6
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TinaTina wrote on 01/15/2019 at 21:14: So I read that about this back posting. But that doesn't apply to me. I know when I play that the money could be gone. I would never think of trying to book it back.
I would also never endanger my existence with gambling.
And I would like to be allowed to continue playing in the casinos and remain creditworthy. That's why I don't understand it. The bank doesn't blame me for not being able to pay for something, but only for having made these transactions in the first place. And you forbid me to do that
So again the question about which intermediaries do you work with? PayPal?

Ecopayz

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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:26 pm CET#7
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TinaTina wrote on 01/15/2019 at 21:14: So I read that about this back posting. But that doesn't apply to me. I know when I play that the money could be gone. I would never think of trying to book it back.
I would also never endanger my existence with gambling.
And I would like to be allowed to continue playing in the casinos and remain creditworthy. That's why I don't understand it. The bank doesn't blame me for not being able to pay for something, but only for having made these transactions in the first place. And you forbid me to do that
So again the question about which intermediaries do you work with? PayPal?

Ask in the Live Chat of an online casino, what they have to say that the bank wants to prohibit you from playing. I would be interested to know what the Online Casinos think about this, that the bank gives you the reason that online gambling is prohibited in Germany

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Ichbins2018
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:30 pm CET#8
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TinaTina
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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:32 pm CET#9
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That would be an idea. I think I'll do that at Wunderino. Because they were the triggers.
Of course, I am now even afraid to transfer 500 € to my PayPal account. The bank will immediately accuse me of something again.
Whereby the me now even with the cancellation of the MasterCard a line through the bill made, if I want to book a hotel. At Booking.com you can pay or book hotels almost only with credit card. Some also do it with PayPal. And now I just don't want my bank to see exactly what I'm doing. But can they now immediately turn me a rope, just because I transfer money to PayPal, which then no longer goes directly from the bank to the online to the casino.

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Bank forbids gambling!

15th Jan. 2019, at 09:34 pm CET#10
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TinaTina wrote on 15/01/2019 at 21:32: That would be an idea. I think I'll do that at Wunderino. Because they were the triggers.
I am of course now even afraid to let me transfer 500 € to my PayPal account. The bank will immediately accuse me of something again.
Whereby the me now even with the cancellation of the MasterCard a line through the bill made, if I want to book a hotel. At Booking.com you can pay or book hotels almost only with credit card. Some also do it with PayPal. And now I just don't want my bank to see exactly what I'm doing. But can they turn me now immediately a rope, just because I transfer money to PayPal, that goes then no longer directly from the bank to the online to the casino

Not that, but if you win something and transfer it to the account, they will already know what's going on. Just change the bank. Would also have no desire to do so.

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