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29th Jan. 2018, at 10:05 pm CET#1
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Hello everyone, I am new here.
Like all probably I play from time to time a little game
But what goes on in the Online Casinos has nothing to do with luck or chance anymore....
If I play (as mostly) completely without bonus, runs absolutely nothing. With luck I lie times 10€ over my Deposit (idR 30-50€).
Pretty quickly it pulls me down, and the money is completely gone. No free spins, no kick, it's just no fun. (play idR with 1€ bet)
Recently, however, I got a "VIP" bonus at VIKS, deposited something, and it went over the top.
5 Scatters, 5 books, full screens, fat pictures, free spins with 100-200x win.
After 3 hours I had 900€ on the speedometer (very much money for me), completely ventured, from it I wanted to pay out 500€.
But no, in the terms and conditions is yes, that the possible wins are limited! (2x bonus amount)
So the money was confiscated for the most part, and just 200€ was paid out.
So how can it be that with playing bonus, which itself afterwards is not payable at all, you get paradisiacal wins, while with your own hard-earned money you just get one on the cap? and really. Are your experiences similar?
Although off-topic, it still wanted to get rid of times:
Find it awesome that 3-digit amounts are considered "chump change" by some users here.
It should not be forgotten that there are a whole assful of people in DE who HAVE to work for 9€, 10€ an hour....
Should someone here be a successful entrepreneur, would it not be better to pay the employees fairly, or to give them a decent bonus, instead of month after month thousands of € in the arcades / OCs / casinos to carry?
In my experience, employers often act as if higher pay is not possible. At the same time, however, it is considered the absolute standard to drive around in a V8 and enjoy luxury vacations.
Just my opinion, from the lower third of the population.
Greetings
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29th Jan. 2018, at 10:36 pm CET#2
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Sascha666 wrote on 29/01/2018 at 22:05: Hello everyone, am new here.
Like all probably I play from time to time a little game
But what goes on in the Online Casinos has nothing to do with luck or chance anymore....
If I play (as mostly) completely without bonus, runs absolutely nothing. With luck I lie times 10€ over my Deposit (idR 30-50€).
Pretty quickly it pulls me down, and the money is completely gone. No free spins, no kick, it's just no fun. (play idR with 1€ bet)
Recently, however, I got a "VIP" bonus at VIKS, deposited something, and it went over the top.
5 Scatters, 5 books, full screens, fat pictures, free spins with 100-200x win.
After 3 hours I had 900€ on the speedometer (very much money for me), completely ventured, from it I wanted to pay out 500€.
But no, in the terms and conditions is yes, that the possible wins are limited! (2x bonus amount)
So the money was confiscated for the most part, and just 200€ was paid out.
So how can it be that with playing bonus, which itself afterwards is not payable at all, you get paradisiacal wins, while with your own hard-earned money you just get one on the cap? and really. Are your experiences similar?
Although off-topic, it still wanted to get rid of times:
Find it awesome that 3-digit amounts are considered "chump change" by some users here.
It should not be forgotten that there are a whole assful of people in DE who HAVE to work for 9€, 10€ an hour....
Should someone here be a successful entrepreneur, would it not be better to pay the employees fairly, or to give them a decent bonus, instead of month after month thousands of € in the arcades / OCs / casinos to carry?
In my experience, employers often act as if higher pay is not possible. At the same time, however, it is considered the absolute standard to drive around in a V8 and enjoy luxury vacations.
Just my opinion, from the lower third of the population.
Greetings
Hey, so to your off topic topic... this is always a hard topic... of course you are right that self-employed people should not rip off their people... on the other hand if you earn only 9-10 Euro in Germany this has mostly reasons... low education bad education or other situations in life..e.g. the wife got pregnant etc.. I think you can achieve a lot in Germany if you want..you just have to partly pinch the butt cheeks together...I personally hire relatively much staff in the year (am an employee in a large company not self-employed ) and I have to say that the applicant quality and the attitude of young people are just also pretty shit .But that speaks more for the experienced people so that you can get jobs even in large companies.If the new generation is so bad, most dare but just nothing they want to be rather save in their 10 euro job than to accept a 15 euro temporary with probationary period ... I mean clear is the Risk ... but if you are convinced of your work and work well will kick you out in today's time no employer ... there are just unfortunately in Germany many who complain ... but they also do not want to change anything in their situation be it by a study ... Employer change, etc. you just quickly become lazy about something like that... and in the end, you probably have enough money if it does not bother you so much...
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30th Jan. 2018, at 09:00 am CET#3
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locke2kk wrote on 29/01/2018 at 22:36
Sascha666 wrote on 01/29/2018 at 22:05: Hello everyone, am new here.
Like all probably I play from time to time a little game
But what goes on in the Online Casinos has nothing to do with luck or chance anymore....
If I play (as mostly) completely without bonus, runs absolutely nothing. With luck I lie times 10€ over my Deposit (idR 30-50€).
Pretty quickly it pulls me down, and the money is completely gone. No free spins, no kick, it's just no fun. (play idR with 1€ bet)
Recently, however, I got a "VIP" bonus at VIKS, deposited something, and it went over the top.
5 Scatters, 5 books, full screens, fat pictures, free spins with 100-200x win.
After 3 hours I had 900€ on the speedometer (very much money for me), completely ventured, from it I wanted to pay out 500€.
But no, in the terms and conditions is yes, that the possible wins are limited! (2x bonus amount)
So the money was confiscated for the most part, and just 200€ was paid out.
So how can it be that with playing bonus, which itself afterwards is not payable at all, you get paradisiacal wins, while with your own hard-earned money you just get one on the cap? and really. Are your experiences similar?
Although off-topic, it still wanted to get rid of times:
Find it awesome that 3-digit amounts are considered "chump change" by some users here.
It should not be forgotten that there are a whole assful of people in DE who HAVE to work for 9€, 10€ an hour....
Should someone here be a successful entrepreneur, would it not be better to pay the employees fairly, or to give them a decent bonus, instead of month after month thousands of € in the arcades / OCs / casinos to carry?
In my experience, employers often act as if higher pay is not possible. At the same time, however, it is considered the absolute standard to drive around in a V8 and enjoy luxury vacations.
Just my view, from the lower third of the population.
Greetings
Hey, so to your off topic topic... this is always a hard topic... of course you are right that self-employed should not rip off their people... on the other hand if one earns only 9-10 Euro in Germany this has mostly reasons... low education bad education or other situations in life..e.g. the wife got pregnant etc.. I think you can achieve a lot in Germany if you want..you just have to partly pinch the butt cheeks together...I personally hire relatively much staff in the year (am an employee in a large company not self-employed ) and I have to say that the applicant quality and the attitude of young people are just also pretty shit .But that speaks more for the experienced people so that you can get jobs even in large companies.If the new generation is so bad, most dare but just nothing they want to be rather save in their 10 euro job than to accept a 15 euro temporary with probationary period ... I mean clear is the Risk ... but if you are convinced of your work and work well will kick you out in today's time no employer ... there are just unfortunately in Germany many who complain ... but they also do not want to change anything in their situation be it by a study ... Employer change, etc. you just quickly become lazy about something like that... and in the end, you probably have enough money if it does not bother you so much...
that's from my side
On the one hand, everyone is the architect of his own fortune, I agree with you.
On the other hand, that does not change the fact that every job should also be paid appropriately.
But as you also write, the situation is for the employee who does good work at the moment actually very good to improve financially.
About the bonus: of course, it makes you suspicious when things go like this, but coincidence also means that strange things can happen
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30th Jan. 2018, at 10:28 am CET#4
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The problem with gambling is that if you are lucky once and make a win, the human brain automatically imagines that this is also possible a second and a third time... for example, if you had paid yesterday 100 € and let's say at the end would have won 2,000 €... and you would Deposit today again 100 €... you would again assume a win, because otherwise you would not deposit again.....
If this win or these expectations that you set... but does not apply you are automatically disappointed and you finally pay again and again and looking for an answer why you no longer have this "luck"... in many examples, people blame the casinos, for whatever reason... some even assume a software Manipulation if they do not win for a while... however, the casinos have no access to the games, because the casinos only access the servers of the providers (game manufacturers).
And the bonus counts ultimately only to the credit and has indirectly no influence on the gameplay or the course of the slots... it only changes the number of spins you can make and leads, so to speak, only to the fact that you invest more time in the slots.
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30th Jan. 2018, at 01:22 pm CET#5
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nowadays, low pay has nothing to do with low education
I know a lot of people who have graduated from high school, studied and are now slaving away in a body shop for 9 euros, because there are not even close to enough well-paid jobs. I hope you don't get fooled by this "we urgently need skilled workers" fairy tale. There is no shortage of specialists, there is a shortage of well-paid jobs This skilled workers fairy tale is only there to justify the mass immigration that has been planned for 20 years.(this last sentence is only understood by people who have thoroughly dealt with the NWO topic, beware)
More and more jobs are replaced by robots. More and more people+less and less jobs= high unemployment TROTZ education.
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30th Jan. 2018, at 02:23 pm CET#6
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Dipson wrote on 30.01.2018 at 13:22: low pay nowadays has nothing to do with low education
I know a lot of people who have graduated from high school, studied and are now working for 9 Euros in a job center, because there are not even close to enough well-paid jobs. I hope you don't get fooled by this "we urgently need skilled workers" fairy tale. There is no shortage of specialists, there is a shortage of well-paid jobs This skilled workers fairy tale is only there to justify the mass immigration that has been planned for 20 years.(this last sentence is only understood by people who have thoroughly dealt with the NWO topic, beware)
More and more jobs are replaced by robots. More and more people+less and less jobs= high unemployment TROTZ education.
On the subject of skills shortages:
May not be the case everywhere, but I work in a medium-sized craft company in the office and thus get the personnel issues. It is currently very difficult for us to find decent personnel for the construction sites and it does not look like that will change soon. Maybe it is not yet a shortage, but in many areas the chances on the labor market for skilled, good people are very good at the moment.
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31st Jan. 2018, at 04:58 am CET#7
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Dipson wrote on 30.01.2018 at 13:22: low pay nowadays has nothing to do with low education
I know a lot of people who have graduated from high school, studied and are now working for 9 Euros in a job center, because there are not even close to enough well-paid jobs. I hope you don't get fooled by this "we urgently need skilled workers" fairy tale. There is no shortage of specialists, there is a shortage of well-paid jobs This skilled workers fairy tale is only there to justify the mass immigration that has been planned for 20 years.(this last sentence is only understood by people who have thoroughly dealt with the NWO topic, beware)
More and more jobs are replaced by robots. More and more people+less and less jobs= high unemployment TROTZ education.
Hey do not misunderstand but the people from think you speak there I know only too well... 3er to 4er Abi or study just managed and the attitude to work is with most also so ridiculous... so I must contradict you quite clearly who has nowadays a 1-2er Abi or very good to good study and no good job is to blame ... or you have to study for a good job also make a change of location which is quite normal if you want to earn a lot of money you go to the money and not the money comes to you... this is now written in general I do not know your people of course.you can also have the best degree if you can not sell you brings little...
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31st Jan. 2018, at 05:13 am CET#8
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locke2kk wrote on 31.01.2018 at 04:58: You can also have the best degree if you can't sell yourself, that doesn't bring much...
So does that mean you have to be perfect at everything or have connections to get to the top in our demanding society
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6th Feb. 2018, at 06:50 pm CET#9
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yes you are absolutely right. the casinos also do not forward anyone to the servers of the providers (fairy tale lesson), the nonsense they tell only to project the blame for the scam on someone who is not at all tangible and legally actionable!!!!
everyone who knows something about proigramming also knows that you can't program randomness (either program OR randomness). so there is no so called "RNG". what does the community think why no one plays online Poker anymore????especially those who know something about statistics and distributions! every poker player knows that online poker is complete crap and has NOTHING but also absolutely NOTHING to do with randomness.
It's exactly the same bullshit as in any online casino---> scripted reality calls the professional cheater that! the scripted reality is designed so that you think over and over again that you just had real bad luck and the next time the damn bonus just have to sit. but this fooling make the 100 or 1000 or even 10000 times in a row (depending on the psych. profile of the player) to bring people to go crazy.
and once you have invested 200x or 300x stake, the next 50x are again shit...but the freespins must come at some point!(THEY DO NOT, and if they do, you win 10x or so a cheese).
And as for the poker streamers, is very sure that they are all RIGGED as hell. look at a stream of eg "lex veldhuis", you can not get out of the laughter! so one hits EVERYTHING and EXACTLY what he needs! or "karlenn", a scary bad poker player, somehow manages to get over 900 with 10 dollars! yes but a real poker player gets at 10,20 or more tournaments in a row on the bubble on the face!!! The names Riverstars or Jokerstars come here not by chance...
And that's exactly how it looks. Online Casinos and poker are fckng HOLLYWOOD! 24H/day and so it explains itself also, how it can be that one constantly with Bonus money free spins and good wins gets, but with real money siehste no free spins more than 25x (if one at all times with 200 spins which gets) lol everything random probably
Guys I am new here, I greet the whole community!
Nevertheless, in a German spielothek the fraud is already in the law (eg abolition of the payout ratio and entertainment tax), so you can still better online zoken, because you stay here with your money INDEFINITELY longer in the game! (...if you are already addicted)
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6th Feb. 2018, at 07:26 pm CET#10
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f**kF***enhannes wrote on 06.02.2018 at 18:50: yes you're absolutely right. the casinos also do not forward anyone to the servers of the Provider (fairy tale hour), the nonsense they tell only to project the guilt of cheating on someone who is not at all tangible and legally actionable!!!!
Hello f**kF***enhannes... I save myself any comment on it...
That the game data is loaded directly from the manufacturer, and also every single spin is forwarded directly to the game provider, can be checked without detours on any computer on which Chrome or Firefox is installed.
Test: Log into a casino with an MGA license of your choice, press the F12 key and observe the network transmission in the debug console.
There you can see exactly where the data is sent from your computer...
I hope this disproves the "fairy tale".
Christoph (our content writer) is preparing an article about this, which will be published in the next few days, maybe you will still be active on GambleJoe until then, then this article will certainly clarify to you in a factual way, why fraud by Online Casinos is not soooooo easy to implement, as you claim here.
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Like all probably I play from time to time a little game
But what goes on in the Online Casinos has nothing to do with luck or chance anymore....
If I play (as mostly) completely without bonus, runs absolutely nothing. With luck I lie times 10€ over my Deposit (idR 30-50€).
Pretty quickly it pulls me down, and the money is completely gone. No free spins, no kick, it's just no fun. (play idR with 1€ bet)
Recently, however, I got a "VIP" bonus at VIKS, deposited something, and it went over the top.
5 Scatters, 5 books, full screens, fat pictures, free spins with 100-200x win.
After 3 hours I had 900€ on the speedometer (very much money for me), completely ventured, from it I wanted to pay out 500€.
But no, in the terms and conditions is yes, that the possible wins are limited! (2x bonus amount)
So the money was confiscated for the most part, and just 200€ was paid out.
So how can it be that with playing bonus, which itself afterwards is not payable at all, you get paradisiacal wins, while with your own hard-earned money you just get one on the cap? and really. Are your experiences similar?
Although off-topic, it still wanted to get rid of times:
Find it awesome that 3-digit amounts are considered "chump change" by some users here.
It should not be forgotten that there are a whole assful of people in DE who HAVE to work for 9€, 10€ an hour....
Should someone here be a successful entrepreneur, would it not be better to pay the employees fairly, or to give them a decent bonus, instead of month after month thousands of € in the arcades / OCs / casinos to carry?
In my experience, employers often act as if higher pay is not possible. At the same time, however, it is considered the absolute standard to drive around in a V8 and enjoy luxury vacations.
Just my opinion, from the lower third of the population.
Greetings
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Hey, so to your off topic topic... this is always a hard topic... of course you are right that self-employed people should not rip off their people... on the other hand if you earn only 9-10 Euro in Germany this has mostly reasons... low education bad education or other situations in life..e.g. the wife got pregnant etc.. I think you can achieve a lot in Germany if you want..you just have to partly pinch the butt cheeks together...I personally hire relatively much staff in the year (am an employee in a large company not self-employed ) and I have to say that the applicant quality and the attitude of young people are just also pretty shit .But that speaks more for the experienced people so that you can get jobs even in large companies.If the new generation is so bad, most dare but just nothing they want to be rather save in their 10 euro job than to accept a 15 euro temporary with probationary period ... I mean clear is the Risk ... but if you are convinced of your work and work well will kick you out in today's time no employer ... there are just unfortunately in Germany many who complain ... but they also do not want to change anything in their situation be it by a study ... Employer change, etc. you just quickly become lazy about something like that... and in the end, you probably have enough money if it does not bother you so much...
that's from my side
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On the one hand, everyone is the architect of his own fortune, I agree with you.
On the other hand, that does not change the fact that every job should also be paid appropriately.
But as you also write, the situation is for the employee who does good work at the moment actually very good to improve financially.
About the bonus: of course, it makes you suspicious when things go like this, but coincidence also means that strange things can happen
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If this win or these expectations that you set... but does not apply you are automatically disappointed and you finally pay again and again and looking for an answer why you no longer have this "luck"... in many examples, people blame the casinos, for whatever reason... some even assume a software Manipulation if they do not win for a while... however, the casinos have no access to the games, because the casinos only access the servers of the providers (game manufacturers).
And the bonus counts ultimately only to the credit and has indirectly no influence on the gameplay or the course of the slots... it only changes the number of spins you can make and leads, so to speak, only to the fact that you invest more time in the slots.
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I know a lot of people who have graduated from high school, studied and are now slaving away in a body shop for 9 euros, because there are not even close to enough well-paid jobs. I hope you don't get fooled by this "we urgently need skilled workers" fairy tale. There is no shortage of specialists, there is a shortage of well-paid jobs This skilled workers fairy tale is only there to justify the mass immigration that has been planned for 20 years.(this last sentence is only understood by people who have thoroughly dealt with the NWO topic, beware)
More and more jobs are replaced by robots. More and more people+less and less jobs= high unemployment TROTZ education.
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On the subject of skills shortages:
May not be the case everywhere, but I work in a medium-sized craft company in the office and thus get the personnel issues. It is currently very difficult for us to find decent personnel for the construction sites and it does not look like that will change soon. Maybe it is not yet a shortage, but in many areas the chances on the labor market for skilled, good people are very good at the moment.
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Hey do not misunderstand but the people from think you speak there I know only too well... 3er to 4er Abi or study just managed and the attitude to work is with most also so ridiculous... so I must contradict you quite clearly who has nowadays a 1-2er Abi or very good to good study and no good job is to blame ... or you have to study for a good job also make a change of location which is quite normal if you want to earn a lot of money you go to the money and not the money comes to you... this is now written in general I do not know your people of course.you can also have the best degree if you can not sell you brings little...
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So does that mean you have to be perfect at everything or have connections to get to the top in our demanding society
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everyone who knows something about proigramming also knows that you can't program randomness (either program OR randomness). so there is no so called "RNG". what does the community think why no one plays online Poker anymore????especially those who know something about statistics and distributions! every poker player knows that online poker is complete crap and has NOTHING but also absolutely NOTHING to do with randomness.
It's exactly the same bullshit as in any online casino---> scripted reality calls the professional cheater that! the scripted reality is designed so that you think over and over again that you just had real bad luck and the next time the damn bonus just have to sit. but this fooling make the 100 or 1000 or even 10000 times in a row (depending on the psych. profile of the player) to bring people to go crazy.
and once you have invested 200x or 300x stake, the next 50x are again shit...but the freespins must come at some point!(THEY DO NOT, and if they do, you win 10x or so a cheese).
And as for the poker streamers, is very sure that they are all RIGGED as hell. look at a stream of eg "lex veldhuis", you can not get out of the laughter! so one hits EVERYTHING and EXACTLY what he needs! or "karlenn", a scary bad poker player, somehow manages to get over 900 with 10 dollars! yes but a real poker player gets at 10,20 or more tournaments in a row on the bubble on the face!!! The names Riverstars or Jokerstars come here not by chance...
And that's exactly how it looks. Online Casinos and poker are fckng HOLLYWOOD! 24H/day and so it explains itself also, how it can be that one constantly with Bonus money free spins and good wins gets, but with real money siehste no free spins more than 25x (if one at all times with 200 spins which gets) lol everything random probably
Guys I am new here, I greet the whole community!
Nevertheless, in a German spielothek the fraud is already in the law (eg abolition of the payout ratio and entertainment tax), so you can still better online zoken, because you stay here with your money INDEFINITELY longer in the game! (...if you are already addicted)
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Hello f**kF***enhannes... I save myself any comment on it...
That the game data is loaded directly from the manufacturer, and also every single spin is forwarded directly to the game provider, can be checked without detours on any computer on which Chrome or Firefox is installed.
Test: Log into a casino with an MGA license of your choice, press the F12 key and observe the network transmission in the debug console.
There you can see exactly where the data is sent from your computer...
I hope this disproves the "fairy tale".
Christoph (our content writer) is preparing an article about this, which will be published in the next few days, maybe you will still be active on GambleJoe until then, then this article will certainly clarify to you in a factual way, why fraud by Online Casinos is not soooooo easy to implement, as you claim here.
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