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Landbased Casinos in general: What do you think of the new rules in the gaming arcades? (Page 2)

Topic created on 10th Jan. 2024 | Page: 2 of 5 | Answers: 62 | Views: 4,684
MisterL
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wait and see and drink horn tea

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Langhans
Expert

SlottiKarotti wrote on 11.01.2024 02:07:

For my part, I didn't pay any attention to the user here, or how many posts he already has

it doesn't matter how many posts someone has - that says nothing about their content Everyone once started with a post and I can't remember being sniggered at by the old-timers at the time. At least it doesn't seem to be a general Gamble Joe symptomatology that could then be denounced on Trustpilot. But maybe I just slipped through with a bit of luck

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Donnie
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Yes, of course someone is whining that they are no longer allowed in the arcade until 4 o'clock but only until 2 o'clock. Because this poor person doesn't know what else to do with his time, please be understanding and express yourself humanely. And this person should then immediately write a negative review on Trustpilot🤣

If you can't stand a little headwind, it's better not to say anything at all, you might as well not take everything so seriously. Besides, anyone who takes Trustpilot seriously is beyond help anyway. If my father or my deceased grandfathers had spent their lives in some filthy arcade in front of a Slot machine and thought they could hang out there late into the night, they would have received endless verbal and physical punishment

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upola
Legend

Donnie wrote on 11.01.2024 at 09:40 am: Yes, of course someone is crying that he is no longer allowed to go to the arcade until 4 o'clock but only until 2 o'clock. Because this poor person then no longer knows what to do with his time, you should please have understanding for this and express yourself humanely. And this person should then immediately write a negative review on Trustpilot🤣

If you can't stand a little headwind, it's better not to say anything at all, you might as well not take everything so seriously. Besides, anyone who takes Trustpilot seriously is beyond help anyway. If my father or my deceased grandfathers had spent their lives in some filthy arcade in front of a Slot machine and thought they could hang around there until late into the night, they would have received endless verbal and physical scolding

But it can be a little nicer, otherwise BinGoldig will start ranting again

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Anonym

Rubin wrote on 10.01.2024 at 19:01: Since the new year, the Spielotheken have been closing at 2 a.m. and no longer at 4 a.m. as usual. Drinks now also cost €1 where I live.
As I only work the night shift myself, I used to spend my days off going to the Spielo from 1:00 or even 2:00 to 4:00, which I've been doing for 8 years. Of course, that's no longer possible now. All because of the state, I think it's a cheek. How much we are patronized in this country, as if we were little children.
I'm an adult and nobody has the right to tell me when to go home at night, do they?
We should all write a letter to the authorities. I don't quite understand it anyway, that's tax revenue for the country, especially at the border, all those French people who come over to play, they bring all the money here.
The justification of Player protection is so absurd. As if that makes any difference.
Once again, the people who suffer are the people who work, especially those who work night shifts like me.
A citizen's allowance recipient can be at the door at 11 o'clock in the morning, but not me. I don't want to go to a Spielo straight after getting up in the afternoon either. It's packed almost everywhere then anyway, especially the time from 1:00 to 4:00 was great and fun.
Now I'm only allowed to go to work and sit at home alone at night, which is great. That really gets on your nerves.
I don't think the fact that the drinks cost n euros is so bad, but the fact that the state wants to dictate when I should be at home really goes against the grain.

I don't know exactly which federal state you come from, but here in Lower Saxony the closing time has been 00:00 for a long time. The fact that you see yourself as a victim because you work is actually a bit sad The real victims are primarily the arcade operators and their employees, as the new opening hours have cost some employees their jobs.

There are enough *black sheep* among the amusement arcade operators who keep their arcades open for longer despite the prescribed closing times. I can't recommend one to you, nor do I want to, as it is precisely these black sheep who are partly responsible for the State Treaty on Gambling being tightened up so much.

Furthermore, there are plenty of cafés and pubs that are open longer at weekends, where in most cases there are 2 gaming machines.

The whole thing has nothing to do with patronizing, it's a shame that you see it that way. At least I don't feel patronized when the Netto next door has to close because the law wants it that way.

In my opinion, it's also a form of player protection if amusement arcades have to close at a certain time. You shouldn't always think for yourself, you should think outside the box. To be honest, I think it's quite cheeky to say that recipients of citizens' allowance can gamble earlier Everyone has the option of going to an arcade, be it before work, after work or at the weekend when they have time off....

Nobody is telling you to go home, you can still roam around... find out about the closing times at a nearby casino, these are usually not affected by the curfew and could be an alternative for you.

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BinGOLDiG
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upola wrote on January 11th, 2024 at 11:33 am:

But you can do it a little nicer, otherwise BinGoldig will scold you again

ExactlySo it looks like...

"Schimpf☝️👵 scolding ☝️👵 scolding"☝️👵


In principle, this kind of behavior or this harsh tone only annoys me, because it doesn't take long before the first mood cannon hears the light breeze and has to join in the firing!
If at some point everyone has added their two cents and you're still getting on each other's nerves, it's deliciously amusing from your point of view... but for those who read along quietly, it's a bit like bullying or making fun at the expense of others!
And I just don't like that!
If x has a problem with y then the others should keep a low profile...all on one is pathetic!
Otherwise you can see in advance where it will lead!
And if you're keen on all against one then please take it to Facebook...where you'll reach the right audience 😊

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LiQuidz
Visitor

BinGOLDiG wrote on January 11th, 2024 at 6:12 pm:
ExactlySo it looks like...

"Schimpf☝️👵 Schimpf ☝️👵 Schimpf"☝️👵


In principle, this kind of behavior or this harsh tone only annoys me, because it doesn't take long before the first mood cannon hears the light breeze and has to join in the firing!
If at some point everyone has added their two cents and you're still getting on each other's nerves, it's deliciously amusing from your point of view... but for those who read along quietly, it's a bit like bullying or making fun at the expense of others!
And I just don't like that!
If x has a problem with y then the others should keep a low profile...all on one is pathetic!
Otherwise you can see in advance where it will lead!
And if you're keen on all against one then please take it to Facebook...where you'll reach the right audience 😊

However, it always depends on the argumentation as to why you are upset about something. Whether it's justified or not, it should preferably be factual.


In the case of TE, it's mainly about personal views.

People like to talk about "we" and "sufferers" on behalf of everyone else. Groups of people are included who have nothing to do with it. And very importantly, people go to work as if they were something very special, even though it's just normal. And all of this is wrapped up in the idea that you are being patronized. Especially in personal views, it is often portrayed as worse than it really is.

I call that emotional grit.
Simply someone who is unable to adapt to change, doesn't want to or is looking for emotional validation.
Doesn't just apply to the TE, it's also common here and there in the forum.

Ultimately, however, it is possible to adapt to the circumstances and still continue with your habits. You may have to cut back here and there, restructure a little and consider alternatives. And you'll be back on track.

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Langhans
Expert
LiQuidz wrote on January 11th, 2024 at 7:37 pm:

It always depends on the reasoning behind why you're upset about something, though. Is it justified or not, preferably it should be factual.


In the case of TE, it's mainly about personal views.

People like to talk about "we" and "sufferers" on behalf of everyone else. Groups of people are included who have nothing to do with it. And very importantly, people go to work as if they were something very special, even though it's just normal. And all of this is wrapped up in the idea that you are being patronized. Especially in personal views, it is often portrayed as worse than it really is.

I call that emotional grit.
Simply someone who is unable to adapt to change, doesn't want to or is looking for emotional validation.
Doesn't just apply to the TE, it's also common here and there in the forum.

Ultimately, however, it is possible to adapt to the circumstances and still continue with your habits. You may have to cut back here and there, restructure a little and consider alternatives. And then you're back on track.

According to some theories, people should be jumping all over you now because you only have 7 posts But that won't happen because there's a lot in there that's understandable. Ok, I wouldn't (under)write "emotional grits" like that, but I really don't want my approval to fail because of small formulations

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Tonkabohne
Top Member
You can play all night at rest stops on highways

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gamble1
Legend

Tonkabohne wrote on 12.01.2024 at 08:09: At rest stops on highways you can play all night

The boxes should actually switch off at 3 a.m. at the latest, at least in BW such a rule was introduced depending on the location


Gaming arcades: The machines all lock themselves from 00:00 and display the notice "legal gaming break until 07:00"

Bar/pub: The devices are all locked from 03:00 and display the notice "legal gaming break until 07:00"

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Rubin

Langhans wrote on 10.01.2024 at 19:33: The state certainly doesn't tell you when you should be at home. You have the whole night at your disposal and can do whatever you want - just don't go to the arcade. A bodybuilder who works the late shift can't insist that all the pubs are open all night because they're too busy in the afternoon. And yet it would be very easy to find a remedy in the gambling sector: 1,000 Online Casinos are happy to welcome you 24/7 The bodybuilder doesn't have that option: sure, he can lift water boxes or dumbbells at home, but he'll be missing a lot of equipment. Not every industry has the right business hours for everyone, otherwise everything would have to be open around the clock to give everyone the greatest possible freedom.

When I sign up for a gym, I naturally check what time they are open.

Mine are open until 5 o'clock at night. If they suddenly said they had to close at 2 a.m., no one who likes to work out at that time would be happy. Then you just ask yourself "Why?"
It's worked all these years.
This doesn't come from the operator because the turnover is no longer right at this time (you could still understand that), but it's a template and I think that's cheeky in this case.

It's blamed on player protection... but on the other hand, online casinos have now been legalized and are open 24/7.
Sure, I could go to an online casino now, but that makes no sense for me and it's no fun either. I used to go to the casino with a work colleague in the evenings when I had nothing else to do. I did play online once, but sitting at home and gambling away my money... no, that's not my thing. I don't go there to win something, because then I might as well stay at home and have more money.
As I said, they had the right business hours, it was possible. Even the people who work there are complaining because they hardly have any more hours, a few have already quit because of it. The 2 hours make a big difference... that's an extra 40 hours a month for 20 days. That's almost 500€
It doesn't just suck for the player, but also for those who work there.

Donnie wrote on 10.01.2024 at 20:14: Dude go find yourself a wife. I also want to go to the supermarket at night to buy something delicious but when it's closed it's closed. Crying about 2 hours like that, first world problems. The state doesn't tell you to be at home, it tells you you can't be in the Spielo at 2am. I write a lot of garbage too but seriously now. A world is crumbling zusammen🤦‍♂️🤣


You could have saved yourself the comment though, you don't know me.
Are you not allowed to go anywhere in the evening if you have a wife?
Despite having a girlfriend, I also went out to play at night from time to time, I don't sleep at night because I have a different rhythm.
It's not like the world is falling apart, but these are things you can complain about.
We are responsible citizens and whether it's just 1 hour or 12 hours, I generally see red when it comes to this kind of thing.

SlottiKarotti wrote on 01/11/2024 02:07:

Well, for my part, I didn't even pay attention to the user here, or how many posts he already has.


You're a bit right in what you say. It just seemed massively exaggerated to me to talk about people suffering in this context when I think about what people in crisis areas have to go through, for example. A short forced break from the game shouldn't be that significant.

But as a greeting, that was clearly not nice of me. Sorry for that from my side!

Oh, guys.
Don't come up with comparisons like that. Are we no longer allowed to complain if someone is starving somewhere in the world?
Then everyone in Germany who is unhappy should immediately become happy again when they think about what people in crisis areas go through. That's nonsense.

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Langhans
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It goes without saying that when you register at a gym, you should first check the opening times that apply at that time. If they fit, you become a member. But these are not necessarily set in stone for all eternity and can change at any time. The same applies to amusement arcades. You can certainly get annoyed about it, but you have no choice but to come to terms with it. As I wrote in my opening post, there are not always suitable conditions for everyone in every industry, otherwise everything would have to be open 24/7. In principle, you still have the opportunity to pursue your hobby without any problems, but in the afternoons there is too much going on for your taste. That may be the case, but a letter of complaint to the government as you mentioned is certainly out of place

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Anonym

Rubin wrote on January 13th, 2024 at 9:09 pm:

Oh people.
Don't come up with such comparisons. Are you no longer allowed to complain if someone is starving somewhere in the world?
Then everyone in Germany who is unhappy should immediately become happy again when they think about what people in crisis areas are going through. That's nonsense.


You can think what you like about opening hours. Your current post sounds completely different and reads better.

You sign a contract with a gym, so you can't really compare it with the closing times of a gaming arcade. If a gym changes its opening hours in any way so that it is no longer possible for you to visit it, I think you have the right to withdraw from the contract, at least if it was mentioned in the contract in some way.
But you have no contract with the casino.

I personally don't know a single employee who has resigned because of the new closing times, at least not in the company I work for (the sun is shining here ). It was more likely that jobs were cut by the arcade operator. I'm going to take Lower Saxony as an example, here the hours were cut by 3 hours, which, with around 30 opening days a month, means 90 hours were lost.
The only thing we're missing are the Bonuses, yes you have a little less money at the end of the month, but you have a much better quality of life.
What you're describing mostly affects smaller casinos, where employees often earn less than the minimum wage and hardly receive any bonuses. They then earn their money by working 200 hours or more.


However, I would also like to emphasize that the closing times in Lower Saxony have actually always been 00:00, but the individual cities had the option to extend closing times, they paid well for this extension and had to be renewed regularly.
I don't know exactly whether it was the same in Bavaria, but you may have noticed that casinos often had different opening hours depending on the region.
This was not the responsibility of the arcade operator, but of the city. This option has now been taken away from the cities so that there is no longer an extension of the closing time.
I don't know how long it has been the case in Bavaria that they have to close at 02:00. But if it is the same there as in Lower Saxony, there may be an arcade nearby where the closing time extension is still active, this arcade will still be open until 04:00. The curfew reduction only takes effect once the extension has expired.

However, I agree with you that the shortened opening hours are annoying for the *normal player*. Our guests who came after midnight were mostly guest workers or shift workers who wanted to come down a bit after work and gamble a little money. So you're right that the new law doesn't help these people and that Player protection is nonsensical.
But there are also guests who really do have a gambling problem, who come in after work, play until 3 a.m., then go home and don't make it to work in the morning and lose their job as a result. But these are players who are very, very rare, but they do exist. You can't save them with the shortened opening hours, they have to get help.
Alcohol also plays a big role because of the closing times. The later the evening (especially at the weekend), the more alcoholic the guests, and if you have drunk alcohol, as is generally known, the inhibition threshold drops and you gamble more than you actually wanted to. Alcohol may not be consumed in gambling establishments and drunk guests fall under player protection and should actually be banned from gambling. However, very few casinos do this and ban these guests from the arcade.

Please note that this is only my experience in Lower Saxony. The State Treaty on Gambling has stipulated certain things, but these are implemented differently by each federal state... In the past, it even differed from city to city.

Please note that there is no such thing in the casinos, alcohol is sold there, etc., a rogue who thinks evil






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Anonym
Unfortunately, I can no longer edit my post.
You didn't come from Bavaria at all... My mistake. Then just refer everything to the state you come from.

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Twixus
Rookie
BinGOLDiG wrote on 11.01.2024 at 01:30: And here we go again!
Really sucks with "OUR GREAT COMMUNITY" 🤮

It doesn't matter for what reason people sign up here... you just see the date and are directly toootally biased and if not biased then either unfriendly or have to let off your sarcastic comments!

If I would be received like this and treated like the last asi or would be amused about my post, I would probably also give a bad rating on trustpilot!

You don't even know who you're dealing with!
The TE could possibly be the grandpa of some people here...maybe by age?!
Accordingly, you can at least expect to be treated with respect!

I agree with you 100% and have unfortunately had this experience here today.

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