It talks about 6,000.€ to pay for a slot machine.
Monthly allegedly 350 € rent.
There should be 10% left over for the owner.
90 % is to be distributed back to the customers.
He has only ever "won" ....
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I have serious doubts, at least about the 90%.
einspielung wrote on 21.03.2024 at 12:04: I have a few doubts about this report:
It talks about 6.000.€ to pay for a slot machine.
Monthly allegedly 350 € rent.
There should be 10% left for the owner.
90 % is to be distributed back to the customers.
He has only ever "won" ....
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I have serious doubts, at least about the 90%.
I estimate the rent per device at €250:
And the win of 10% is rather low.
Your opinion on this...
This is a report from Tr.4 where the 90% that goes to the players was already realistic, although it was probably never 90 because the state also collects 3 times it was not uncommon to make a loss with a device
The rent was also realistic at that time, depending on the game package and the games available with it, you already paid 250-500 € per month for a package I mean Gauselmann in particular had such extreme fluctuations in connection with Mytopgame and Jackpot features on the devices
But some of the devices also cost more, so I wouldn't necessarily underestimate the 6,000 now, but rather a little more
This is a report from Tr.4 there the 90% that go to the players were already realistic although it was probably never 90 because the state also collected 3 times was not uncommon if you made a minus with a device
The rent was also realistic at that time depending on the game package and the games available with it you already paid 250-500 € per month for a package I mean Gauselmann in particular had such extreme fluctuations in connection with Mytopgame and Jackpot features on the devices
But some of the devices also cost more, so I wouldn't necessarily sign the 6,000 now, rather a little more
I would also guess TR 5. They uploaded it 3 years ago. But I think the video is older, around 2018 - before the pandemic.
einspielung wrote on 21.03.2024 at 12:04: I have a few doubts about this report:
It talks about 6.000.€ to pay for a slot machine.
Monthly allegedly 350 € rent.
There should be 10% left for the owner.
90 % is to be distributed back to the customers.
He has only ever "won" ....
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I have serious doubts, at least about the 90%.
I estimate the rent per device at €250:
And the win of 10% is rather low.
Your opinion on this...
I also think that the figures are not correct. Of course, he doesn't want to say how lucrative the business is. It would also be stupid to mention it openly in front of the camera. I think he has an AQ of around 65-75%. That's about as good as it gets.
I don't know why, but I would avoid smaller casinos like that. I'd rather play in larger chains, such as Löwenplay, Merkur, Admiral, etc.
I also think the numbers didn't add up. Of course, he doesn't want to say how lucrative the business is. It would also be stupid to mention it openly in front of the camera. I think he has an AQ of around 65-75%. That's about as good as it gets.
I don't know why, but I would avoid smaller casinos like that. I'd rather play in larger chains, such as Löwenplay, Merkur, Admiral, etc.
I think I expressed myself incorrectly I meant the video is already from Tr.5 but the numbers I mentioned from Tr.4 were actually quite identical to Tr.5, especially at the beginning
I think I expressed myself wrong I meant the video is already from Tr.5 but the numbers I mentioned from Tr.4 were actually quite identical to Tr.5, especially at the beginning
Oh yes, that could be the case of course. I'm not familiar with it, so I have no idea, but the profit margin seems too low to me.
There are manufacturers who currently demand a special rental payment of €6,000 and a rent of over €300. So that's true.
The calculation with the 10% and 90% is wrong simply because the sales tax and (except in Bavaria) the amusement tax have been completely forgotten. More realistic is: depending on the device, 75-85% RTP, the rest goes to the tax office and the operator.
The report was produced between 2017 and 2021, as the video shows TR5 V.1 devices (which were only available during this period).
It is not true that the odds are supposed to be better or different for large chains than for small ones.
The calculation with the 10% and 90% is wrong simply because the sales tax and (except in Bavaria) the amusement tax have been completely forgotten. More realistic is: depending on the device, 75-85% RTP, the rest goes to the tax office and the operator.
This is an amusement arcade operator from Nuremberg (Bavaria), so at least the amusement tax has not been forgotten.
I noticed that there is a sign in one picture saying that spectators are not allowed. Is that normal? It's the first time I've seen it.
Yes, it's quite normal in the halls, it was even written in Arabic here because younger groups of men, mostly from the south, often come in groups of 5, one gambles and 4 stand around and that disturbs the other guests, which is why it's forbidden in most halls
Yep is quite normal in the halls was even written in Arabic with us because especially younger groups of men mostly southerners often come to 5 one gambles and 4 stand around it and that disturbs the other guests therefore forbidden in most halls
I never paid attention to whether the halls I visited also had such a ban. Good to know xD
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It talks about 6,000.€ to pay for a slot machine.
Monthly allegedly 350 € rent.
There should be 10% left over for the owner.
90 % is to be distributed back to the customers.
He has only ever "won" ....
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I have serious doubts, at least about the 90%.
I estimate the rent per device at €250:
And the win of 10% is rather low.
Your opinion on this...
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This is a report from Tr.4 where the 90% that goes to the players was already realistic, although it was probably never 90 because the state also collects 3 times it was not uncommon to make a loss with a device
The rent was also realistic at that time, depending on the game package and the games available with it, you already paid 250-500 € per month for a package I mean Gauselmann in particular had such extreme fluctuations in connection with Mytopgame and Jackpot features on the devices
But some of the devices also cost more, so I wouldn't necessarily underestimate the 6,000 now, but rather a little more
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I would also guess TR 5. They uploaded it 3 years ago. But I think the video is older, around 2018 - before the pandemic.
I also think that the figures are not correct. Of course, he doesn't want to say how lucrative the business is. It would also be stupid to mention it openly in front of the camera. I think he has an AQ of around 65-75%. That's about as good as it gets.
I don't know why, but I would avoid smaller casinos like that. I'd rather play in larger chains, such as Löwenplay, Merkur, Admiral, etc.
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I think I expressed myself incorrectly I meant the video is already from Tr.5 but the numbers I mentioned from Tr.4 were actually quite identical to Tr.5, especially at the beginning
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Oh yes, that could be the case of course. I'm not familiar with it, so I have no idea, but the profit margin seems too low to me.
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The good old days 😂😬
Happy and sad at the same time,arcade feeling has been awesome
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The calculation with the 10% and 90% is wrong simply because the sales tax and (except in Bavaria) the amusement tax have been completely forgotten. More realistic is: depending on the device, 75-85% RTP, the rest goes to the tax office and the operator.
The report was produced between 2017 and 2021, as the video shows TR5 V.1 devices (which were only available during this period).
It is not true that the odds are supposed to be better or different for large chains than for small ones.
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This is an amusement arcade operator from Nuremberg (Bavaria), so at least the amusement tax has not been forgotten.
I found an article in the local press: https://www.nordbayern.de/nachts-in-der-spielhalle-geld-gier-und-gegner-1.9742660
I noticed that there is a sign in one picture saying that spectators are not allowed. Is that normal? It's the first time I've seen it.
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Yes, it's quite normal in the halls, it was even written in Arabic here because younger groups of men, mostly from the south, often come in groups of 5, one gambles and 4 stand around and that disturbs the other guests, which is why it's forbidden in most halls
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I never paid attention to whether the halls I visited also had such a ban. Good to know xD
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Yes, I know that. Nevertheless, the sales tax was forgotten (i.e. the state takes € 15.97 from € 100 that someone gambles away)
Signs stating that only gambling guests are permitted are the rule rather than the exception.
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