Hidaruma wrote on 25.11.2021 at 12:34 pm: ... it was also just because a cat next door was frying a fried egg and the vending machine was affected by the resulting fumes.
Boy, oh boy... I think the fumes affected you rather than the vending machines!
Denjo889 wrote on 27.11.2021 at 12:10 pm: Yes sorry but before you all discuss to death rather keep from denn halls fehrn .
Sorry if it bores you🤗
What does "keep away" matter in this regard?
You can talk about it completely independently after all.
I am a virgin in this area and have never been in an arcade, for example, and do not plan to visit in the future.
The Spiegel report is from 2007, so I didn't even read it. If I have calculated correctly, the report is 14 years old. And in between there was the TR 4 and now the TR5
For me, this also ends the discussion, because it leads nowhere
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Maria_Sunday wrote on 29.11.2021 at 12:45 pm:... .For me, this also ends the discussion, because this leads nowhere.
Maria_Sonntag wrote on 29.11.2021 at 12:45 pm: The Spiegel report is from 2007, for that reason alone I didn't even read through it. So if I've done the math correctly, the report is 14 years old. And in between there was the TR 4 and now the TR5
For me, this also ends the discussion, because it leads nowhere.
I don't understand the meaning of your comment. So you answer to something, although you have not even read through this report, because it is too old for you
That is for me as if I would only half listen, half understand and still give some mustard to it. So the main thing I said anything about it?
😴😴🤦♂️Now please explain to me the reference to the age of the article and what you deduce from it.
The poster of the article, I suspect, was primarily concerned with showing that fraud is possibly possible.
I don't know much about the terms TR4 and TR5 because I have no experience with gambling in arcades.
But I assume that these are the further development of the series of the machines.
And if you take the past period as a basis, it was already possible to possibly cheat and the further development of technical progress to date, it is certainly not harder but much easier to trick.
And I do believe that such discussions can bring something, namely that each of us can think more ourselves, question things and draw our own conclusions, rather than always just parrot what others put in front of you
And I do believe that such discussions can bring something, namely that each of us can think more ourselves again, question things and draw our own conclusions, rather than always just parrot bluntly what others put in front of you.
So I also think. You should not always blindly believe what others claim but also believe his own observations, experiences and important times turn on their own brains
This article is also not a 100% proof, but at least he brings some things in the wavering.
Who at least does not have doubts about the whole thing, which is either completely narrow-minded or simply works in the industry and does not want that some things are uncovered
"This made it possible, the PTB experts said, that customers who won and saved valuable special games might later have to "finish playing them in a lower-paying game system" - a clear violation of player protection."
Sounds like an illegal bonus stunt It should be noted that there is no RTP (ReturnToPlayer) in gaming arcades, but a time-limited AQ (payout ratio). This AQ must be reached within a certain time window. Whether this is 24 hours, 1 week or even years is unclear.
Officers from the Bavarian State Criminal Police Office (LKA) also found "deviant gaming behavior" at Merkur machines. In addition, the LKA investigators found something suspicious on a confiscated computer belonging to the arcade staff: unauthorized control programs for the gaming machines. On the computer, they also discovered "the logging of 41 different IP addresses that accessed the ATMs via the Internet".
The public prosecutor's office Augsburg stopped the procedure against a GauselmannManager after payment of a fine of altogether 6500 euro - also because this " amicable agreement with the PTB had been found ". In it Gauselmanns adp and the other enterprises committed themselves to convert approximately 17000 dubious devices within yearly period.
Why the PTB responsible persons pushed the vote of their own specialists aside, is open to question
One thing is certain: The experienced head of the department responsible for the unmasking expert opinion was transferred.
The new PTB head of department Dieter R, That R. likes the multimillionaire is well known in the industry. Already on Gauselmann's 70th birthday he attracted attention with a very friendly speech. He even presented a gift...
My personal conclusion
this industry now has an incredible amount of power (zero shy when it comes to "specialists" from the LKA /PTA mouth to make) and casually said, this industry makes what it wants
The stupid ... so as usual, the player /.
Should today or in the future similar be uncovered (only my personal opinion) will be the same procedure as in 2007, the main thing the ruble rolls - and the "profiteers" can continue to put their pockets full.
There I am nevertheless meanwhile glad not a cent of me to this A.....or H..... goes and who believes still in gambling, well that is eh no longer to help and is to believe further in it
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Boy, oh boy... I think the fumes affected you rather than the vending machines!
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Sorry if it bores you🤗
What does "keep away" matter in this regard?
You can talk about it completely independently after all.
I am a virgin in this area and have never been in an arcade, for example, and do not plan to visit in the future.
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For me, this also ends the discussion, because it leads nowhere
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... says someone who is stuck.
You have read the post for sure
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I don't understand the meaning of your comment. So you answer to something, although you have not even read through this report, because it is too old for you
That is for me as if I would only half listen, half understand and still give some mustard to it. So the main thing I said anything about it?
😴😴🤦♂️Now please explain to me the reference to the age of the article and what you deduce from it.
The poster of the article, I suspect, was primarily concerned with showing that fraud is possibly possible.
I don't know much about the terms TR4 and TR5 because I have no experience with gambling in arcades.
But I assume that these are the further development of the series of the machines.
And if you take the past period as a basis, it was already possible to possibly cheat and the further development of technical progress to date, it is certainly not harder but much easier to trick.
And I do believe that such discussions can bring something, namely that each of us can think more ourselves, question things and draw our own conclusions, rather than always just parrot what others put in front of you
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So I also think. You should not always blindly believe what others claim but also believe his own observations, experiences and important times turn on their own brains
This article is also not a 100% proof, but at least he brings some things in the wavering.
Who at least does not have doubts about the whole thing, which is either completely narrow-minded or simply works in the industry and does not want that some things are uncovered
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"This made it possible, the PTB experts said, that customers who won and saved valuable special games might later have to "finish playing them in a lower-paying game system" - a clear violation of player protection."
Sounds like an illegal bonus stunt It should be noted that there is no RTP (ReturnToPlayer) in gaming arcades, but a time-limited AQ (payout ratio). This AQ must be reached within a certain time window. Whether this is 24 hours, 1 week or even years is unclear.
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The public prosecutor's office Augsburg stopped the procedure against a GauselmannManager after payment of a fine of altogether 6500 euro - also because this " amicable agreement with the PTB had been found ". In it Gauselmanns adp and the other enterprises committed themselves to convert approximately 17000 dubious devices within yearly period.
Why the PTB responsible persons pushed the vote of their own specialists aside, is open to question
One thing is certain: The experienced head of the department responsible for the unmasking expert opinion was transferred.
The new PTB head of department Dieter R,
That R. likes the multimillionaire is well known in the industry. Already on Gauselmann's 70th birthday he attracted attention with a very friendly speech. He even presented a gift...
My personal conclusion
this industry now has an incredible amount of power (zero shy when it comes to "specialists" from the LKA /PTA mouth to make) and casually said, this industry makes what it wants
The stupid ... so as usual, the player /.
Should today or in the future similar be uncovered (only my personal opinion) will be the same procedure as in 2007, the main thing the ruble rolls - and the "profiteers" can continue to put their pockets full.
There I am nevertheless meanwhile glad not a cent of me to this A.....or H..... goes and who believes still in gambling, well that is eh no longer to help and is to believe further in it
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