Hey, so I claim times the everyone ... more than 200-300 euros a month zockt not just for fun zockt... and if you look at the customers in a casino / arcade ... you will see the 80-90% of people are not "fun players".ist just unfortunately so... Fun players go once and gamble 50 euros ... but well until they win once 500 or 1000 euros ... then the thing looks different again
Well...I would not make it now necessarily of the money dependent thus 200..300 euro in the month or so, there are already some indications more that the play problematic and/or already to the addiction became
In gambling houses you always meet the same people anyway, they know each other and I assume that at least 95% are gambling addicts who keep such houses running
Also, I don't know any so-called recreational gamblers who stand impatiently in front of a hall at 7 in the morning until the store finally opens (I was one of them), and so on.
As the now online behaves have honestly no idea, but who is upset here about a "player card" (apart from the fact that it is good for GJ or for the online casinos) has in my eyes already quite different problems.
Such a card is HIGH time, so that all the addicts no longer have a chance! But it would be even better if a playing time was also directly booked, let's say one hour a day. MORE needs no normal person.
And who plays on more than one machine for money, is addicted to the stop anyway!
So with us in the halls is now on all Novo devices this card and on all Merkur devices this stupid recharge display in which you always have to manually book 2 euros across...
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Mathrigo wrote on 08.11.2018 at 22:09: Such a card is HIGH time, so that all the addicts no longer have a chance! But it would be even better if there was also a playing time booked up directly, of say one hour a day. MORE needs no normal person.
And who plays on more than one machine for money, is addicted to the stop anyway!
What do we do then with casinos, which are completely exempt from such rules? I can't take these rules seriously, the main motivation is to make state gambling more attractive again because everything else is regulated to death.
At the end you book 0,20 € per keystroke and every 1 € you have to wait 15 seconds and then you get a "Are you sure? Try also the casino [name] only [X] kilometers away with beautiful ambience and great additional offers". Then we would have reached the climax of the regulation probably, they manage vllt also still to lower the profit maximum to 20 €. Online Germany refuses again with all means against a regulation, because they have noticed that they are again the last and then too much would migrate to the online business. Eventually, some well-known machine manufacturer will still manage with lobbying, then we will have a site on which we can play with 50% RTP as they have the many Scratch cards in DE and 25% are some win - or as flattering as you are you advertise as I saw the other day even great with "Every fourth ticket wins!
Ankor wrote on 09/11/2018 at 15:42
Then what do we do with casinos, which are completely exempt from such rules? I can't take these rules seriously unfortunately, the main motivation is to make state gambling more attractive again because everything else is regulated to death.
At the end you book 0,20 € per keystroke and every 1 € you have to wait 15 seconds and then you get a "Are you sure? Try also the casino [name] only [X] kilometers away with beautiful ambience and great additional offers". Then we would have reached the climax of the regulation probably, they manage vllt also still to lower the profit maximum to 20 €. Online Germany refuses again with all means against a regulation, because they have noticed that they are again the last and then too much would migrate to the online business. Eventually, some well-known machine manufacturer will still manage with lobbying, then we will have a site on which we can play with 50% RTP as they have the many Scratch cards in DE and 25% are some win - or as flattering as you are you advertise as I saw the other day even great with "Every fourth ticket wins!
Gaming halls are hardly subject to any regulation worth mentioning, thanks to the work of Paules lobbyists, as there is an exception (at least) for every regulation. And before such a regulation even comes into force, there are years of transition periods. That these are little used to find alternatives is due to the operators themselves. They are counting on Paul to get it right.
Whether now each 4. lot wins or however: At least there are completely contrary to play halls still wins. Here everything is really laid out on pure Abzocke. That the players now also understand this and no longer participate (except for the pathological players), should not surprise anyone
Always remember: If you want a lot, you get a lot. Who wants too much, gets nothing.
dizyen wrote on 07/19/2018 at 11:20 am: I checked out the new TR 5.0 and all I can say is hell.
On a positive note though: I think now even the last person in the arcade will realize that it's abslute nonsense to gamble, so in reverse the best measure ever to get people out of the arcade.
What is a pity is that the casinos are excluded from this.
Anyway, a Merkur machine I've seen has a booking button above the start button, because the automatic booking from left to right is no longer there, so you have to sit all the time at the machine and press the hardware booking button independently, which is so cumbersome and frustrating that you just want to get out of there.
Maximum you can throw in only 10 €, to play several machines you have to walk around a lot to constantly press the booking buttons so that it loads at all.
Maximum win can only be 1200 € because the game time is limited to three hours, that is if you have 5 frogs on 2 €, the rest is gone!
All counters incl. AG games are deleted after the three hours, should you win in hour two over 1000€ you only have the possibility to get out a maximum of 800€.
So now the question: Is this legal at all ? I mean, according to the game plan, you win 2000€ as an example, but only get 1200€ out, so the machine simply pockets 800 € again.
For me in many respects already somehow right everything because that will keep many from playing.
dizyen wrote on 07/19/2018 at 11:20 am: I checked out the new TR 5.0 and all I can say is hell.
On a positive note though: I think now even the last person in the arcade will realize that it's abslute nonsense to gamble, so in reverse the best measure ever to get people out of the arcade.
What is a pity is that the casinos are excluded from this.
Anyway, a Merkur machine I've seen has a booking button above the start button, because the automatic booking from left to right is no longer there, so you have to sit all the time at the machine and press the hardware booking button independently, which is so cumbersome and frustrating that you just want to get out of there.
Maximum you can throw in only 10 €, to play several machines you have to walk around a lot to constantly press the booking buttons so that it loads at all.
Maximum win can only be 1200 € because the game time is limited to three hours, that is if you have 5 frogs on 2 €, the rest is gone!
All counters incl. AG games are deleted after the three hours, should you win in hour two over 1000€ you only have the possibility to get out a maximum of 800€.
So now the question: Is this legal at all ? I mean, according to the game plan you win as an example 2000 € but gets only 1200 € out, 800 € is the machine so simply again.
For me in many respects already somehow right everything because that will keep many from playing.
That is not true in the back and front. Only 10 euros to Deposit yes, but then you can deposit another 10 and then again.the with only 1200 win is not true had one that has won 4000 by the automatic in the AG's he could 900 not rüberbuchen. If beizeiten rübwrgebucht the money remains so out of memory right to the left in the deposit bar also lt.Agb that the money is automatically returned before the expiry of 3 hours. This is only partly true because if you win 800 and have 100 Ag's comes only with several pauses to book back and that only 20 to 40 sometimes more. Because the Ag's have priority, he does not even 200 let alone 400 back to book and then it happens that everything is gone at zero position. The case I had also posted here in an extra topic. On the subject that keeps the players off is not true at all it is even Zulauf to record. What the fabrizieren is armchair farts Quark and has absolutely nothing to do with player protection. For example, Player protection would be if the win gets the same and is not tempted by the waiting times to play on other machines. In casinos at the machines is the money immediately on it and the win significantly faster paid out no umpteen breaks no partitions or other rules and why? Because the player is registered there and it is state. If you ask me I have to say that they do not have all the bars on the fence. Sesselfurzer just do not know what is going on outside.
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Only that you lose more money, nothing else changes.
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Well...I would not make it now necessarily of the money dependent thus 200..300 euro in the month or so, there are already some indications more that the play problematic and/or already to the addiction became
In gambling houses you always meet the same people anyway, they know each other and I assume that at least 95% are gambling addicts who keep such houses running
Also, I don't know any so-called recreational gamblers who stand impatiently in front of a hall at 7 in the morning until the store finally opens (I was one of them), and so on.
As the now online behaves have honestly no idea, but who is upset here about a "player card" (apart from the fact that it is good for GJ or for the online casinos) has in my eyes already quite different problems.
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And who plays on more than one machine for money, is addicted to the stop anyway!
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What do we do then with casinos, which are completely exempt from such rules? I can't take these rules seriously, the main motivation is to make state gambling more attractive again because everything else is regulated to death.
At the end you book 0,20 € per keystroke and every 1 € you have to wait 15 seconds and then you get a "Are you sure? Try also the casino [name] only [X] kilometers away with beautiful ambience and great additional offers". Then we would have reached the climax of the regulation probably, they manage vllt also still to lower the profit maximum to 20 €. Online Germany refuses again with all means against a regulation, because they have noticed that they are again the last and then too much would migrate to the online business. Eventually, some well-known machine manufacturer will still manage with lobbying, then we will have a site on which we can play with 50% RTP as they have the many Scratch cards in DE and 25% are some win - or as flattering as you are you advertise as I saw the other day even great with "Every fourth ticket wins!
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Gaming halls are hardly subject to any regulation worth mentioning, thanks to the work of Paules lobbyists, as there is an exception (at least) for every regulation. And before such a regulation even comes into force, there are years of transition periods. That these are little used to find alternatives is due to the operators themselves. They are counting on Paul to get it right.
Whether now each 4. lot wins or however: At least there are completely contrary to play halls still wins. Here everything is really laid out on pure Abzocke. That the players now also understand this and no longer participate (except for the pathological players), should not surprise anyone
Always remember: If you want a lot, you get a lot. Who wants too much, gets nothing.
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That is not true in the back and front. Only 10 euros to Deposit yes, but then you can deposit another 10 and then again.the with only 1200 win is not true had one that has won 4000 by the automatic in the AG's he could 900 not rüberbuchen. If beizeiten rübwrgebucht the money remains so out of memory right to the left in the deposit bar also lt.Agb that the money is automatically returned before the expiry of 3 hours. This is only partly true because if you win 800 and have 100 Ag's comes only with several pauses to book back and that only 20 to 40 sometimes more. Because the Ag's have priority, he does not even 200 let alone 400 back to book and then it happens that everything is gone at zero position. The case I had also posted here in an extra topic. On the subject that keeps the players off is not true at all it is even Zulauf to record. What the fabrizieren is armchair farts Quark and has absolutely nothing to do with player protection. For example, Player protection would be if the win gets the same and is not tempted by the waiting times to play on other machines. In casinos at the machines is the money immediately on it and the win significantly faster paid out no umpteen breaks no partitions or other rules and why? Because the player is registered there and it is state. If you ask me I have to say that they do not have all the bars on the fence. Sesselfurzer just do not know what is going on outside.
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