I find that with the card a good idea and am sometimes curious about the implementation of it, with me in the area were zudemvom Ordnungsamt on Thursday 7 arcades immediately closed because of the new rules!
Hightower wrote on 01.07.2018 at 19:22 clock: I think that with the card a good idea and am sometimes curious about the implementation of it, in my area were zudemvom Ordnungsamt on Thursday 7 arcades immediately closed because of the new rules!
The idea with the player card is not bad. Basically, more Player protection is implemented here by the legislator. But the whole industry simply cheats for years and no one is interested. The best example is the law that the maximum bet is 20ct and the maximum win is 2€. The machine manufacturers simply call the booking a game. The game must also last 5 seconds. So according to the law it is gambling if you push 10€ into a machine and every 5 seconds 20ct are transferred. When you book back it is 2€, that is the "win". Spinning slots, free spins, multipliers, animations, sound etc. all has nothing to do with the game. This is just so inconsistent and insane. Either make laws and enforce them or give private providers a fair chance in competition.
Mombasa wrote on 01/07/2018 at 15:18: For the arcades this means further loss of their business.
Because the worthy clientele will look at it once or twice... and then migrate to the internet.
i think people will get used to that too
when the points game was introduced over ten years ago, there was a lot of hue and cry.
and today it's the most normal thing in the world...
Knochen wrote on 01/07/2018 at 19:30
The idea with the player card is not bad either. Basically, more Player protection is implemented here by the legislator. But the whole industry just cheats for years and no one cares. The best example is the law that the maximum bet is 20ct and the maximum win is 2€. The machine manufacturers simply call the booking a game. The game must also last 5 seconds. So according to the law it is gambling if you push 10€ into a machine and every 5 seconds 20ct are transferred. When you book back it is 2€, that is the "win". Spinning slots, free spins, multipliers, animations, sound etc. all has nothing to do with the game. This is just so inconsistent and insane. Either make laws and enforce them or give private providers a fair chance in competition.
the ridiculous thing is simply that the state doesn't really care about the rules for the private sector in its own casinos, or doesn't even care about them at all.
it couldn't be more hypocritical...
In the own casinos, these rules also do not apply because that is (allegedly) something completely different. There it is namely gambling and in casinos only "gaming machines with the possibility of profit", gambling would be illegal in arcades, gas stations, kebab stands and pubs namely! This is of course also a big joke that this is not gambling.
I was curious and wanted to know now how it works with the card and the book over, so I went to the casino and now the employee said that it is not from July but only from September with the game card and the machine conversion.
I have looked at the new TR 5.0 and can only say: Hell.
But on the positive side, I think even the last person in the arcade will now realize that it is absluter nonsense to gamble, so in reverse, the best measure ever to get people out of the arcade.
What is a pity is that the casinos are excluded from this.
Anyway, a Merkur machine I've seen has a booking button above the start button, because the automatic booking from left to right is no longer there, so you have to sit all the time at the machine and press the hardware booking button independently, which is so cumbersome and frustrating that you just want to get out of there.
Maximum you can throw in only 10 €, to play several machines you have to walk around a lot to constantly press the booking buttons so that it loads at all.
Maximum win can only be 1200 € because the game time is limited to three hours, that is if you have 5 frogs on 2 €, the rest is gone!
All counters incl. AG games are deleted after the three hours, should you win in hour two over 1000€ you only have the possibility to get out a maximum of 800€.
So now the question: Is this legal at all ? I mean, according to the game plan, you win 2000€ as an example, but only get 1200€ out, so the machine simply pockets 800 € again.
For me in many respects already somehow right everything because that will keep many from playing.
dizyen wrote on 07/19/2018 at 11:20 am: I checked out the new TR 5.0 and all I can say is hell.
On a positive note though: I think now even the last one in the arcade will realize that it's abslute nonsense to gamble, so in reverse the best measure ever to get people out of the arcade.
What is a pity is that the casinos are excluded from this.
Anyway, a Merkur machine I've seen has a booking button above the start button, because the automatic booking from left to right is no longer there, so you have to sit all the time at the machine and press the hardware booking button independently, which is so cumbersome and frustrating that you just want to get out of there.
Maximum you can throw in only 10 €, to play several machines you have to walk around a lot to constantly press the booking buttons so that it loads at all.
Maximum win can only be 1200 € because the game time is limited to three hours, that is if you have 5 frogs on 2 €, the rest is gone!
All counters incl. AG games are deleted after the three hours, should you win in hour two over 1000€ you only have the possibility to get out a maximum of 800€.
So now the question: Is this legal at all ? I mean, according to the game plan you win as an example 2000 € but gets only 1200 € out, 800 € is the machine so simply again.
For me in many respects already somehow right everything because that will keep many from playing.
According to the law, you should not win so much. The maximum profit is to my knowledge still 2€. The laws are still circumvented as only somehow possible. As soon as the break approaches FS, Cash Games etc. are played automatically and it is booked automatically, also runs the whole then faster. So everyone should get their full win. If something is swallowed, you have to have great bad luck in luck, because you have to win so much in the Spielo first and even directly before the break.
Bones wrote on 07/19/2018 at 11:23 am
According to the law, yes, you shouldn't win that much. The maximum win is still 2€ as far as I know. The laws are still circumvented as only somehow possible. As soon as the break approaches FS, Cash Games etc. are played automatically and it is booked automatically, also runs the whole then faster. So everyone should get their full win. If something is swallowed, you have to have great bad luck in luck, because you have to win so much in the Spielo first and even directly before the break.
The lady also explained to me that the AGs are played faster, but how is that compatible with the law that you can then book out more than 400 € in an hour? I just think that you can have great bad luck if one after two hours four explorers in the free games, because then the AGs disappear when exactly 1200€ were paid out (3x400€).
Here again a video for illustration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmax7IQKIf4
at least the autostart still works. with the START button on the left (not the split button with insert)...
when the boxes have been freshly set up, this did not work as far as i know. there was also START only a spin.
must have given therefore again a small update...
otherwise the manual booking and max nen 10er is really crap.
but I predict, since the people will also get used to it.
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The idea with the player card is not bad. Basically, more Player protection is implemented here by the legislator. But the whole industry simply cheats for years and no one is interested. The best example is the law that the maximum bet is 20ct and the maximum win is 2€. The machine manufacturers simply call the booking a game. The game must also last 5 seconds. So according to the law it is gambling if you push 10€ into a machine and every 5 seconds 20ct are transferred. When you book back it is 2€, that is the "win". Spinning slots, free spins, multipliers, animations, sound etc. all has nothing to do with the game. This is just so inconsistent and insane. Either make laws and enforce them or give private providers a fair chance in competition.
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i think people will get used to that too
when the points game was introduced over ten years ago, there was a lot of hue and cry.
and today it's the most normal thing in the world...
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the ridiculous thing is simply that the state doesn't really care about the rules for the private sector in its own casinos, or doesn't even care about them at all.
it couldn't be more hypocritical...
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But on the positive side, I think even the last person in the arcade will now realize that it is absluter nonsense to gamble, so in reverse, the best measure ever to get people out of the arcade.
What is a pity is that the casinos are excluded from this.
Anyway, a Merkur machine I've seen has a booking button above the start button, because the automatic booking from left to right is no longer there, so you have to sit all the time at the machine and press the hardware booking button independently, which is so cumbersome and frustrating that you just want to get out of there.
Maximum you can throw in only 10 €, to play several machines you have to walk around a lot to constantly press the booking buttons so that it loads at all.
Maximum win can only be 1200 € because the game time is limited to three hours, that is if you have 5 frogs on 2 €, the rest is gone!
All counters incl. AG games are deleted after the three hours, should you win in hour two over 1000€ you only have the possibility to get out a maximum of 800€.
So now the question: Is this legal at all ? I mean, according to the game plan, you win 2000€ as an example, but only get 1200€ out, so the machine simply pockets 800 € again.
For me in many respects already somehow right everything because that will keep many from playing.
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According to the law, you should not win so much. The maximum profit is to my knowledge still 2€. The laws are still circumvented as only somehow possible. As soon as the break approaches FS, Cash Games etc. are played automatically and it is booked automatically, also runs the whole then faster. So everyone should get their full win. If something is swallowed, you have to have great bad luck in luck, because you have to win so much in the Spielo first and even directly before the break.
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The lady also explained to me that the AGs are played faster, but how is that compatible with the law that you can then book out more than 400 € in an hour? I just think that you can have great bad luck if one after two hours four explorers in the free games, because then the AGs disappear when exactly 1200€ were paid out (3x400€).
Here again a video for illustration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmax7IQKIf4
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when the boxes have been freshly set up, this did not work as far as i know. there was also START only a spin.
must have given therefore again a small update...
otherwise the manual booking and max nen 10er is really crap.
but I predict, since the people will also get used to it.
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