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Landbased Casinos in general: A joke what is going on in German game arcades (Page 28)

Topic created on 02nd Oct. 2018 | Page: 28 of 41 | Answers: 401 | Views: 104,565
Maus1234
Rookie
Once again 180 euros gone within one and a half hours!!! What is it Player protection? I lose more than ever before!!! One sat at a machine and said he has in the last five days two and a half thousand pure and NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. Quite a few Spielotheken with us let the players now play on several machines. Even at Novolino. How stupid do you have to be to throw so much money every month to win once a year 1000

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
Addiction is not stupidity@mouse, addiction is a disease.
And as far as Player protection offline is concerned, the main thing is that the cash register rings, or our state is deliberately led around by the nose by the manufacturers.
Prevention in this case, i.e. TR. 5.0 is very nicely packaged for an outsider, but it only serves to justify the state's fulfillment of addiction prevention.
And with addiction prevention, the state justifies its gambling monopoly.
However, the communities and cities are looking forward to your visit and the operators have to pay around 20% entertainment tax for your gambling money...
That they have no interest in preventing addiction should be clear to you by now.
Above all, your money is already planned before you have gambled it away at all!

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Anonym
Ichbins2018 wrote on 18.12.2018 at 21:04: Addiction is not stupidity@mouse, addiction is a disease.
And as far as Player protection offline is concerned, the main thing is that the cash register rings or our state lets itself be led around by the nose by the manufacturers with full intention.
Prevention in this case, i.e. TR. 5.0 is very nicely packaged for an outsider, but it only serves to justify the state's fulfillment of addiction prevention.
And with addiction prevention, the state justifies its gambling monopoly.
However, the communities and cities are looking forward to your visit and the operators have to pay around 20% entertainment tax for your gambling money...
That they have no interest in preventing addiction should be clear to you by now.
Above all, your money is already planned before you have gambled it away at all!

Gambling addiction counts among other things to the "disorder of impulse control". Short quote from Wikipedia:

"Impulsive behavior is carried out urge-like, often automatically. It is experienced consciously, but cannot be prevented at will, or only with difficulty."

Therapies are based on better coping with the impulse to want to play by avoiding the triggers (e.g., consciously walking a long way so you don't see the game, ...) and by better controlling the impulses. When the impulse comes, you have to learn a new behavior pattern in advance and apply it, e.g. instead of saying something to ourselves three times or cooking something when the impulse comes - it is about distracting ourselves or neurologically adapting the whole thing so that we are no longer addicted.

However, you can't take yourself out of responsibility, anyone who knows they have an addiction and doesn't act is, in short, "stupid". One is aware of the fact that the quality of life is limited by the addiction and does nothing against it, that can in any case not be called wise. Of course, you can push the whole responsibility to the state or to various gambling authorities, but if you are honest then you always have the leash in your own hand. You can do something about it, you just don't want to most of the time. I've met enough addicted gamblers who tell me they want to stop and tell me how great the free spins were last night and that they'll go again next week and smile. They have fun with it, they don't want to lose it and I can understand that - but afterwards when it doesn't work, these players are at the staff and complain because a machine or a slot doesn't yield anything.

Sometimes I almost think that non-cash prizes would be better than cash prizes, because if the win is not high enough everything is reinvested in the hope that now more rumkommt. One knows it, one pays in e.g. 50 € and comes on a good day on 240 € and would like to play still a little and says itself inwardly "with 200 € I pay out". But now you're up to 200 € in no time and do you stop now? No, the evil evil mafia people force you until you are back at 0 € and then you are angry. I know this from myself, I have often enough good wins unintentionally downplayed, not extremely high but I have often enough not stopped where I should have stopped and have regretted it more often than I would like (in vllt 10% of the cases I have won more).

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Sascha666
Amateur
Maus1234 wrote on 18/12/2018 at 19:32: Once again 180 euros gone within an hour and a half!!! What is Player protection about this? I lose more than ever too before!!! One sat at a machine and said he has in the last five days two and a half thousand pure and NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. Quite a few Spielotheken with us let the players now play on several machines. Even at Novolino. How stupid do you have to be to throw so much money every month to win once a year 1000.

I know that.
Simply make a bow around the halls.
Everything there is also available at home on the PC.
Interesting dialogs with other players are as rare as rich people who give a few €.
Sure, you'll get rid of your money on the PC in the long run, but the loss of hours is significantly lower for the same effort.

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Anonym
Sascha666 wrote on 12/19/2018 at 04:38 PM

Sure you get rid of your money on the PC in the long run, but the loss of hours is much lower for the same effort.

at the pc you can burn within a few minutes hundreds of bills.so do not tell here such crap.

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Sascha666
Amateur
OpaOma wrote on 19/12/2018 at 06:43
on pc you can burn hundreds of bills within few minutes.so don't tell such crap here.

Read carefully please.
For the same amount of bets, on average you have a lower hourly loss online than in the arcade.
If you Deposit your inheritance completely and gamble on 50€ spins, then it looks different, but that's not the point.

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Anonym
Sascha666 wrote on 12/19/2018 at 08:18 AM

If you Deposit your inheritance of course completely and gamble on 50€ spins, then it looks different, but that's not the point.

just and such a thing does not go in the Spielhalle.und therefore the danger for suchtige online is also much higher.

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Knochen
Elite
Ankor wrote on 12/19/2018 at 01:33 AM
Gambling addiction counts as "impulse control disorder" among others. Short quote from Wikipedia:

"The impulsive behavior is carried out urge-like, often automatically. It is experienced consciously but cannot be prevented at will, or only with difficulty."

Therapies are based on better coping with the impulse to want to play by avoiding the triggers (e.g., consciously walking a long way so you don't see the game, ...) and by better controlling the impulses. When the impulse comes, you have to learn a new behavior pattern in advance and apply it, e.g. instead of saying something to ourselves three times or cooking something when the impulse comes - it is about distracting ourselves or neurologically adapting the whole thing so that we are no longer addicted.

However, you can't take yourself out of responsibility, anyone who knows they have an addiction and doesn't act is, in short, "stupid". One is aware of the fact that the quality of life is limited by the addiction and does nothing against it, that can in any case not be called wise. Of course, you can push the whole responsibility to the state or to various gambling authorities, but if you are honest then you always have the leash in your own hand. You can do something about it, you just don't want to most of the time. I've met enough addicted gamblers who tell me they want to stop and tell me how great the free spins were last night and that they'll go again next week and smile. They have fun with it, they don't want to lose it and I can understand that - but afterwards when it doesn't work, these players are at the staff and complain because a machine or a slot doesn't yield anything.

Sometimes I almost think that non-cash prizes would be better than cash prizes, because if the win is not high enough everything is reinvested in the hope that now more rumkommt. One knows it, one pays in e.g. 50 € and comes on a good day on 240 € and would like to play still a little and says itself inwardly "with 200 € I pay out". But now you're up to 200 € in no time and do you stop now? No, the evil evil mafia people force you until you are back at 0 € and then you are angry. I know this from myself, I have often enough good wins unintentionally downplayed, not extremely high but I have often enough not stopped where I should have stopped and have regretted it more often than I would like (in vllt 10% of the cases I have won more).

I see it similarly. Of course, addiction is a disease that takes a hell of a lot of willpower to beat or control. But it's not impossible. And far too many blame their personal weakness on addiction, acting as if they had no choice at all. But a person ALWAYS has a choice. There's just a huge difference between "cursing your addiction" and really wanting to stop gambling. Most people don't want to stop. Most of them just tell themselves they will stop after the next big win. And if they then win 10,000€, a little goes again. And at the end when everything is gone, the casino is to blame. But the casino has not initiated a debit to your account, you have voluntarily deposited there

Adults should be able to take responsibility for their own actions

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Anonym
Bones wrote on 12/19/2018 at 12:48 PM
I see it similarly. Of course addiction is a disease that takes a hell of a lot of willpower to defeat or control. But it's not impossible. And far too many blame their personal weakness on addiction, acting as if they had no choice at all. But a person ALWAYS has a choice. There's just a huge difference between "cursing your addiction" and really wanting to stop gambling. Most people don't want to stop. Most of them just tell themselves they will stop after the next big win. And if they then win 10,000€, a little goes again. And at the end when everything is gone, the casino is to blame. But the casino has not initiated a debit to your account, you have voluntarily deposited there

Adults should be able to take responsibility for their own actions.

I can agree with that...that's how it is!

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Maus1234
Rookie
Hey guys I can only tell you that today I was unfortunately gambling again with my girlfriend and a total of 400 euros were gone ...without fun and only twice free spins! On ten cents I had still won the most. 400 euros in two hours WEG! without fun! Previously, you could play five boxes at the same time and there I still played a lot longer with the money. The policy is simply a cheek. Have the operators set to 0?

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