I don't understand why people are so "specific" now because of the political situation. Whether it's 2019, 2020 or 2021 or 2100, it doesn't matter.
The simple fact is that it's more of a "joke" or a "joke" because of the new CDU presidency.
If one has reason to believe that gambling houses are currently or in the future a pure money-destroying machine, then one avoids it and devotes himself to other hobbies.
I was also a gamer back then and played 4 times a week, in the 6 years I played offline I only got 1!!!!! times 5 explorers on 80 cents.
I don't even want to know how much money I spent in all those sessions.
That's why I avoid the shit, TR 5.0 is the biggest rip-off pure and the "gambling" consists of "waiting" and repeatedly press a "button" so that 2€ are booked.
Shortly back to politics, I honestly have little idea who initiates the legislation, as far as I know it is regulated parliamentary and the majority must vote it. I am a marketer, not a political scientist.
Skitch22 wrote on 11.12.2018 at 05:01
Is but always so that the laws can be circumvented by loopholes in the law, think that is even intentionally made by the policy so.
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The legislature has passed a new gaming ordinance and
the PTB (also subordinated to the federation) plays the play of the automats industry naturally merrily with - and thus the federation lets its own
pretended s.g. Player protection and prevention measures - (thus as before) by the evil GI aushebeln
Questions what the new gaming ordinance should have brought at all?
Personally, I think it was/is very important to the legislators regarding TR 5.0,
that in the future the revenues can be manipulated much more difficult (for this you should take the TR 5.0 to heart) - and as far as that is concerned I am pretty sure,
when it comes to money, the Federal Government is always willing, and also in logical consequence the PTB is willing, to do really brilliant work.
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Tropper wrote on 12/11/2018 at 09:12 AM
I don't understand why people are so "specific" now because of the political situation. Whether it's 2019, 2020 or 2021 or 2100, it doesn't matter.
The simple fact is that it's more of a "joke" or a "joke" because of the new CDU presidency.
If one has reason to believe that gambling houses are currently or in the future a pure money-destroying machine, then one avoids it and devotes himself to other hobbies.
I was also a gamer back then and played 4 times a week, in the 6 years I played offline I only got 1!!!!! times 5 explorers on 80 cents.
I don't even want to know how much money I spent in all those sessions.
That's why I avoid the shit, TR 5.0 is the biggest rip-off pure and the "gambling" consists of "waiting" and repeatedly press a "button" so that 2€ are booked.
Briefly back to politics, I honestly have little idea who initiates the legislation, as far as I know it is regulated parliamentary and the majority must vote it. I am a marketer, not a political scientist.
greetings
I would have found it funny if you had named Marlene Mortler or someone who "deals" with this topic and has been implementing very successful rules for years, with a huge passion for detail. Legislation that simply works^^
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the "gamble" consists of "waiting" and repeatedly pressing a "button" so that 2€ are booked.
no mostly one waits for 10,20 or 30 cent,that it finally goes on.and press around to play one must now in addition always two keys,namely insert and start.nervig³
Tropper wrote on 12/11/2018 at 09:12 AM
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Briefly back to politics, I honestly have little idea who initiates legislation, as far as I know it is regulated by parliament and the majority has to vote it down. I am a marketer, not a political scientist.
greetings
This is how democracy used to be. Today, most members of parliament often don't even know exactly what they are waving through. It is negotiated in the various committees. If you say yes to mine, I say yes to yours
The whole TR were often started very well - but have then due to compromises (compromise in such cases => nothing half and nothing whole) - strongly weakened to partly exactly the opposite what was once wanted. And the TR5 puts the crown on the whole and leaves the industry completely free hand - if one disregards the few not by exceptions bypassable but not really useful - the Player protection - regulations
All these money-printing and money-laundering machines should be changed to the extent that only points - which may not be converted into either non-cash or cash prizes - may be played for. Nobody wants to play at it - but no matter. No one really needs the halls. And for the job market, they don't play such a big role for a long, long time, as the operators like to claim. Most of the staff I know - and I've been going to arcades since 1980 - are closer to a daily nervous breakdown than to a pleasant working relationship.
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the dirty halls are still needed.for the important tax revenues!if the funds are breaking away now,they urgently need to be generated elsewhere.at the Online Casinos would be a possibility,but there you must first remove the state lottery mafia.but these structures are very deeply rooted in the authorities and too many people are earning too well on it.
As far as tax revenues are concerned, the halls should not be overestimated either. What comes in in tax revenue goes out again several times in social benefits. Gauselmann has also denied this for years - in vain. The figures are on the table. Therefore: Whatever the industry, the hall operators or other persons want to sell good at and in the business with the Daddelautomaten to the normal citizen: All only self-interest. Understandable, who saws at the branch on which he sits. Especially not, if you can make so fast, safe, Risk-free and a lot of money without having to make an effort. If you think about your own job: How hard and long do you have to work to get the monthly 50000 to 60000 € gross of a normal hall with 12 machines?
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after all, we are talking about 7 billion euros in tax revenue from Slot machines in amusement arcades. i would rate that as a decent amount.
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I don't understand why people are so "specific" now because of the political situation. Whether it's 2019, 2020 or 2021 or 2100, it doesn't matter.
The simple fact is that it's more of a "joke" or a "joke" because of the new CDU presidency.
If one has reason to believe that gambling houses are currently or in the future a pure money-destroying machine, then one avoids it and devotes himself to other hobbies.
I was also a gamer back then and played 4 times a week, in the 6 years I played offline I only got 1!!!!! times 5 explorers on 80 cents.
I don't even want to know how much money I spent in all those sessions.
That's why I avoid the shit, TR 5.0 is the biggest rip-off pure and the "gambling" consists of "waiting" and repeatedly press a "button" so that 2€ are booked.
Shortly back to politics, I honestly have little idea who initiates the legislation, as far as I know it is regulated parliamentary and the majority must vote it. I am a marketer, not a political scientist.
greetings
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Exactly @Skitsch
The legislature has passed a new gaming ordinance and
the PTB (also subordinated to the federation) plays the play of the automats industry naturally merrily with - and thus the federation lets its own
pretended s.g. Player protection and prevention measures - (thus as before) by the evil GI aushebeln
Questions what the new gaming ordinance should have brought at all?
Personally, I think it was/is very important to the legislators regarding TR 5.0,
that in the future the revenues can be manipulated much more difficult (for this you should take the TR 5.0 to heart) - and as far as that is concerned I am pretty sure,
when it comes to money, the Federal Government is always willing, and also in logical consequence the PTB is willing, to do really brilliant work.
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I would have found it funny if you had named Marlene Mortler or someone who "deals" with this topic and has been implementing very successful rules for years, with a huge passion for detail. Legislation that simply works^^
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no mostly one waits for 10,20 or 30 cent,that it finally goes on.and press around to play one must now in addition always two keys,namely insert and start.nervig³
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This is how democracy used to be. Today, most members of parliament often don't even know exactly what they are waving through. It is negotiated in the various committees. If you say yes to mine, I say yes to yours
The whole TR were often started very well - but have then due to compromises (compromise in such cases => nothing half and nothing whole) - strongly weakened to partly exactly the opposite what was once wanted. And the TR5 puts the crown on the whole and leaves the industry completely free hand - if one disregards the few not by exceptions bypassable but not really useful - the Player protection - regulations
All these money-printing and money-laundering machines should be changed to the extent that only points - which may not be converted into either non-cash or cash prizes - may be played for. Nobody wants to play at it - but no matter. No one really needs the halls. And for the job market, they don't play such a big role for a long, long time, as the operators like to claim. Most of the staff I know - and I've been going to arcades since 1980 - are closer to a daily nervous breakdown than to a pleasant working relationship.
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